Posted on 10/21/2016 9:29:51 PM PDT by marktwain
Just outright lying by people who know better is more like it when it comes to anything dealing with guns. Consider just the reporting bias for starters. No way of knowing how many people who fought off a bear attack with a firearm are going to report it? I wouldn’t.
Actually, stands to reason. The difficulty in bringing the muzzle “to bear” (no pun) with a long gun is why handguns were invented. This is just statistical validation.
Nobody I have ever met carries a 1911 with the safety off. I would not recommend it. Practice at competition and drill with it on so it is a reflex.
I a, on the Rast coast so my time in the woods is in black bear country. Have seen a few but I get the sense a black bear is a different critter. Even so, 1911 is what I carry. We’re I to go into brown bear country I would invest in .357 mag or better. I suspect in a brown bear attack the best you can hope for is a couple shots.
I probably outweigh the black bears I have seen ( which means they were young) but I think your standard brown bear is gonna outweigh your standard outdoorsman by a significant amount if not multiples. I would have to agree with the above, if the bear ain’t dying by round three it is probably “going to be one of those days...”
I live on the East Coast.... Dunno what happened there.
LMAO
I have my doubts that my 9mm would stop a bear, but if I were going to be attacked by one, I’d rather put a few holes in his hide than make his eyes a little red with some stupid spray.
You still have to pull the hammer back to make it go boom. It is perfectly safe with the safety off even with a round in the tube. Just as safe as a revolver.
I guess we should ban Glocks?
We were wondering if you’re busy this weekend. ;-)
No, you carry “cocked and locked”. Hammer back, safety on. Condition one, I believe is what the experts call it. Practice that way and safety “off” becomes the last bit of “draw” as you look for the front sight. No time wasted, perfectly safe. Nothing against Glocks, I had one, gave it to the SIL. Nice gun. Never felt the safety issue was a feature one way or the other. I never got around to reloading 9mm so I never shot it a whole bunch.
The reason one chooses 1911 is .45 ACP. Consider, 45 Colt was what was around before that. 220 gr. lead bullet with 60 gr of Black Powder. I have a Ruger Old Army that shoots that. It is a frgging canon.
.45 ACP was invented to duplicate that round with “new” smokeless powder. Sure, it isn’t .357 or .41 mag but it is right up there.
Read Ayoob’s Incident in Miami. Three feebs died because ONE BULLET fired was 9 mm.
Or it could be chalked up to simple lying, or more affectionately known as "Truth Deficit Disorder."
Remember, there’s a freeper (Kanawa) who’s 1-0 in this type of situation with a knife :-)
Three agents died in Miami because they were poor shots over 115 rounds fired and only a few hit there target.
The agents tactics were horrible, they were mentally unprepared to take on two known killers.
When going up against two well known robbers would had proven themselves to be every violent.
One does not fail to wear your armor one does not leave your rifles and sub-guns back at the station.
The main reason the FBI agents were shot up and killed is they suffered from a huge case of we are the FBI.
In the olden days they used to call that "Colonel Custer Syndrome".
:-)
The problem with carrying jingle bells in bear country it that they tend to scare off Mr. Elk.
I prefer high quality fire arms my self.
Given the short range and limited effectiveness of the spray, I suspect that few who forget the "safety" on sprays are around to talk about it.
Yup, their deaths were from poor decision making.
“Read Ayoob’s Incident in Miami. “
The Ass lied in his write up about that story. That’s well known. He’s the same idiot that claimed no one should use handloaded ammunition because lawyers would make it appear that you were a crazed killer with intent to kill someone, although only two court cases have ever raised the idea without success.
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