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Trump Details Student Loan Policies, 15 Year Forgiveness Program
WIP-FM ^ | October 13, 2016 | Jeremy Diamond

Posted on 10/13/2016 6:58:23 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: bgill

“Why should I have to pay for their college? No one paid for mine.”

Congratulations for being an adult. I paid for mine, and my kids.

Guess what? Pretending kids will pay back debt that can’t be paid back is a matter for bankruptcy courts, not electioneering.

Bankruptcy courts can sort through the issue quickly if they wished to.

That is the only viable answer.

The additional questions like “where do all the university administrators and professors find jobs after their institutions close” is another matter.

Universities will be “fee for service” entities in the future.


81 posted on 10/14/2016 7:50:51 AM PDT by RFEngineer
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To: HamiltonJay

I meant “you’re” done. Haha. Yes, my education was paid for back in the dark ages when it was only about $300 a semester.


82 posted on 10/14/2016 7:52:12 AM PDT by sockhead
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To: sockhead

Yes, my wife drew a paycheck for 2 years doing something that isn’t possible and doesn’t exist.

I am telling you, this happens, and it happens routinely...

Folks would want to return to school, they had defaulted student loans from earlier in life.. they would set up repayment plans and after about 6 months of repayment they requested and got their loans forgiven.. Not forbearance, not modified, completely forgiven.

You can believe whatever you like, this is indeed true and factual, just because you don’t choose to believe it is not my problem.


83 posted on 10/14/2016 7:56:45 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Reddy
What is to negotiate? These are federally guaranteed student loans, for the most part (roughly 85% of the $1.3T outstanding, the rest is private, with no recourse to the taxpayer.) The money was disbursed. Paid to the college, the campus bookstore, the apartment landlord, whatever. It's a loan from a lender like, say Wells Fargo. It conforms to the Department of Education requirements, and has a federal guarantee that the lender will be repaid. Does Trump imagine that by personal suasion he is going to get the lender to accept 59 cents when it is presently guaranteed $1? I don't think so. The loans that are outstanding are cast. The only thing that pandering politicians (Obama, in his forgiveness program for public service employees, Hillary in her pronouncements on the trail, and now Trump) are offering is that instead of the borrower repaying the amount owed, the Federal government (read: general revenue taxpayer) will pay some portion. They can argue amongst themselves over the portions, but the point remains that it is entirely unfair to the federal taxpayers, many of whom never went to college, to be tasked, retrospectively, with this burden. Education is, for most people, enhancement of personal capital. It is portable and follows you where you go, within a career, geographically, etc. It is nearly the antithesis of a public good.

I realize it may be a bit late to argue this point, since we have long since slid down the slope to free everything, for everyone. I just think it is sad to see Trump getting on the bandwagon. It seems a strategic mistake - for every student debt laden millennial he might gain the vote of, he probably loses 2-3 among conservative voters who can see where the free money comes from.

84 posted on 10/14/2016 9:15:57 AM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: HamiltonJay

Then you are talking about something other than federally guaranteed student loans originated in the last 30 years. Which are about 85% of the $1.3T in outstanding student loan balances at present.


85 posted on 10/14/2016 9:25:27 AM PDT by Wally_Kalbacken
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Free Market people, let colleges fail, they suck anyway ...


86 posted on 10/14/2016 9:26:31 AM PDT by Scythian_Reborn
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To: dfwgator

My exact situation.
Let’s hope this isn’t true.

When people take out debt. They need to pay it back.
Colleges need to get rid of the frills.
Expensive living arrangements and club like workout facilities are two small examples


87 posted on 10/14/2016 9:30:25 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I don't want better government; I want much less of it.)
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To: RockyTx
seems like a great idea to me.

Yeah ... let the suckers taxpayers pick up the tab. Or create more government debt to replace it.

Great idea. It'll be Yuuuuuuge.

Yuuuuuge debt, at least.

How 'bout we get the government OUT of the student loan business entierly?

WHERE THE HELL IS THE CONSTITUTIONAL AUTHORITY FOR THE CONGRESS TO GET INVOLVED IN ISSUING OR GUARANTEEING STUDENT LOANS???

It doesn't exist, of course. Everybody knows that.

88 posted on 10/14/2016 9:30:33 AM PDT by NorthMountain (Hillary Clinton: scheming, robotic liar.)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

No, I am talking about federally guaranteed loans.


89 posted on 10/14/2016 10:52:17 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: MichelleWSC3

If you and your major have such good loan repayment prospects, the public sector ought to be willing to fund it.

No reason for taxpayers to do so.


90 posted on 10/14/2016 12:58:42 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: eyedigress

“Full Disclosure......

I have never taken a student loan in my life.”

I did and bought a DeRosa bicycle just like Eddy Mercks rode and called it “transportation”

But I paid it back


91 posted on 10/14/2016 4:22:55 PM PDT by Fai Mao (PIAPS for Prison 2016)
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To: Wally_Kalbacken

I was talking about future student loans, not those already contracted. Is Trump talking about current loans? I misspoke.


92 posted on 10/14/2016 4:48:27 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
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To: NorthMountain

the real issue here is bankruptcy laws.

I advocate that normal bankruptcy laws should
apply to student loans.

5 or 10 years ago, brain-dead Republicans changed the law to favor banks.


93 posted on 10/14/2016 9:04:15 PM PDT by RockyTx
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To: bgill

and they come out the other end commies with doctorates in basket weaving wondering why no one will hire them.


94 posted on 10/14/2016 10:50:01 PM PDT by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: dfwgator
Student loans are a racket. Of course I'd combine any debt forgiveness with the abolition of government guaranteed loans. Student loans should also be treated the same as any other loans in bankruptcy court. That would increase the incentive of lenders to examine the specific returns of particular courses of study to avoid defaults.
95 posted on 10/16/2016 7:53:37 AM PDT by MaxFlint
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To: Wally_Kalbacken
Does Trump imagine that by personal suasion he is going to get the lender to accept 59 cents when it is presently guaranteed $1?

If the alternative is getting nothing? Yeah, I think he could pull it off. Of course there are all kinds of dirty tricks the lenders can pull, but in the end the sovereign trumps (ha!) the banks, especially when he has the people on his side.

96 posted on 10/16/2016 8:05:54 AM PDT by MaxFlint
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