Posted on 10/10/2016 7:26:30 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
I made this point on this thread here, but a vanity is more preferable.
If you are not voting for down-ticket Republicans, you are giving the Democrats a chance to retake control of Congress.
Now, this is not a defense of the utter fecklessness of Congressional Republicans over the last 5.75 years, because Donald Trump IS the end result of this fecklessness from the Republicans, so we did send our message.
If Trump had not been the GOP nominee, I wouldn't even be holding my nose. I simply would not have voted and would have checked out the political process entirely and crawled into a hole with a bottle of liquor like Calvin Coolidge did after Hoover won.
I totally agree with you. I get it. I hate the Republicans in Congress too. Guys like Congressman Joe Heck, a Brigadier Army General who should know better, may have squandered his chance at an easy Senate seat pickup just because he heard man-talk that was probably on par with the stuff he heard in the military, or in the hospitals (Heck is also a physician) where there is frequent gallows humor about the patients.
New Hampshire Senator Kelly Ayeotte, a Tea Party darling who has turned into the female version of John McCain, is also in danger of losing her seat as well.
So the supporters of Trump are going to vote for Trump, but many of them will now write in someone else, vote 3rd party, or even vote for the Democrat.
This is wrong on 2 counts:
(1) Unlike the feckless, door mat Congressional Republicans who hold the "majority," Democrats have no qualms about using Congressional powers to the max. And you'll all of a sudden hear the media scream that Trump is abusing the Presidency and needs to be reined in by the very same Congress that the Left disregarded over the last 5.75 years as they used the courts and the Executive Branch to implement their agendas.
All of Trump's initiatives - including hiring more Border Patrol agents and maybe needing more money for the wall - will not be funded by a Rat Congress.
Trump's SCOTUS picks will not be confirmed.
Trump's lower court picks will not even have a committee hearing.
With a Republican Congress, Trump will be in a much better position to pass his agenda. There will also be none of the backscratching and the Republican's lobbyists will have no input. Also, Trump will owe none of these turncoat Republicans who demanded he step down NOTHING. Assuming he wins his Senate seat, guys like Joe Heck will have to get on board the Trump train...or Yucca Mountain will be immediately chosen to store nuclear waste and Trump will endorse and campaign for his primary opponent in 2022.
(2) Keeping Congress in Republican Party hands also keeps Trump honest, at least from the Freedom Caucus and other conservatives. Remember: Trump is not a Constitutional conservative! He is someone who will save America from the internationalists - but we will still have big government here at home. So on the flip side of this, with a Democrat Congress, Trump may have the urge to pull a Schwarzenegger, all but abandoning his agenda and negotiating with the Democrats on theirs (I don't see it happening, but you never know). Those conservatives in Washington will stop or at least exert more state control over some of Trump's big government projects like his support of expanding child care. They'll likely get Trump to turn over more federal power back to the states.
So yes, I don't care if your Republican candidate is a flaming liberal. Hold your nose and vote for him, and keep Congress in Republican's hands!
See post #31
Vindictiveness is a sure way to turn people, even allies, against you.
McConnell and Ryan will do all of the above regardless.
Your point?
I will, but if he loses, it’s the last time.
Mochell Obama scotus oh crap
It’s certainly not imperative that I vote in any fashion other than that which I choose.
I fully expect you to do the same, and we are equals in the voting process.
Not going to happen.
I will vote for Dave Brat.
I will vote for Donald Trump.
I WILL NOT VOTE FOR ANY CHEAP LABOR EXPRESS REPUBLICANS.
I’m with you. I don’t understand the logic in voting for Trump and doing everything you can to make sure he has no power.
If the party won’t respect the voters why should the voters respect the party? It’s quite clear now that Amnesty Ryan and the rest of the GOPe prefer Hillary Criminal to GOP voters choice. Turnabout is fair play as they say.
Because we have a better chance of enacting Trump’s agenda, and a better chance of blocking Clinton’s. Consider the committees and who pick and confirms the next Supreme Court Justices.
Let’s use our heads. I’ll pose the same question to you as I pose to the NeverTrumps - why do you want any Democrat to win any race?
I can never vote for Paul Ryan or Jeff Flake or other TDS politicians, I could not do it.
“It’s essential that we keep the House and Senate.”
Why? We gave the House and Senate and they sat on their butts ever since. They made promises they never kept, and they screw us every chance they get.
Exactly. And clearly to Paul Ryan and rest of the GOPe “we” DOES NOT include their GOP voters. Paul Ryan represents K Street and not Main Street.
Why not vote Conservative if the candidate is endorsed by the both the Republican and Conservative party?
Trump would still get the votes and it would send a message to the GOP that they are losing people.
“they will portray him as the 2nd coming of Nixon and take him down.”
Like the RNC and GOPe are doing right this red hot minute?
Great point. The GOPe scum couldn’t even wait until Trump got into the oval office to “impeach” him. I have no doubt the GOPe is behind the Trump tape nonsense. Pathetic beyond words.
They are. Many threads about this tonight regarding these traitors.
Ryan's in the House and is irrelevant with regard to Presidential appointments. Plus the House is not likely to go Democrat this year. If you want to replace him with a Democrat, feel free.
McConnell has not pushed through Obama's Supreme Court nominee so far and there is no reason that he will do so after the election. His term is not up until 2020. If he pushes any Obama nominees through after the election he can count on every conservative in the country campaigning against him.
Sadly EEE thinks that Ayotte would actually vote in support of a President Trump. More likely she'll decide to cross the aisle and vote with the Democrats. After all she's campaigning for them right now.
She's pretty much ruined her chances of winning anyway at this point, the rest of the anti-Trump senators better get ready to greet Senator Hassan.
McConnell will do whatever he wants in the lame duck session.
Bet the farm it’ll be 99% opposed to what is in the best interests of this country.
He’s holding fire on the SC nominee till after the election.
I will be pulling the flush handle on John McCain. Book it.
But if Trump wins, they won't have a seat at the table. They didn't support Trump so why on Earth would Trump reach out to them when he can simply go to the people?
Trump will owe these turncoats nothing.
I don't want them to lose, but if they do that's on their end, not Trump's.
Regardless of who takes house/senate they’ll be globalists. Will fight any non globalist tooth and nail.
They’ve already cashed the foreign influence checks, they have little choice at this point. Either party.
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