Posted on 08/18/2016 5:05:44 AM PDT by marktwain
The 10mm is becoming increasingly popular as a wilderness defense gun in Alaska. Fully loaded it is as light, and a bit more powerful than a loaded, small frame .357 magnum.
The Glock 20 holds 15 rounds versus five or six for a .44 or .41 magnum revolver. In this case near Homer, Alaska, on the Kenai peninsula, it did the job in stopping a charging brown bear sow. It happened on 29 July, 2016, a Monday afternoon about 4 p.m. From homernews.com:
A Homer man shot and killed a charging sow brown bear at Humpy Creek last Friday. Kim Woodman, 57, shot the bear five times with a 10mm handgun before the bear fell about 6 feet from him. While backing away from the sow, Woodman fell and accidentally shot himself in the left foot.
(snip)Woodman had another defensive bear shooting 24 years ago, in 1992. In that case he was hunting moose. In 1992 he fired his rifle at close range when the bear was stalking him.
Blackwell said Woodman surprised a brown bear with two cubs while hiking about 4 p.m. July 29 off the trail along the southwest fork of Humpy Creek in Kachemak Bay State Park. The bears were probably feeding on pink salmon in the creek. Woodman filled out a defense of life and property report, and Park Ranger Jason Okuly and Alaska Department of Fish and Game biologist Jason Herreman went to the scene and found the dead sow bear. They reported the sow had two gunshot wounds, one below the right eye and one in the chest.
FWIW, I think over-penetration is way over-thought as a concern when a complete miss of the target would be much worse no matter what the caliber.
Penetration is the key - here is a story about a guy using a low capacity 9mm to stop a brown bear.
I’m getting the impression that the 10mm 230 grain is good for two things:
1. nailing big things like bears.
2. Macho bragging rights.
I now need to compare the Glock 20 to the 41. The ammo is about the same price, but I need to compare the 40 to the 45 regarding stopping power for humans. I need to stop by Cabelos and see what they have in 10mm too.
Was it the bear’s own credit card?
Did the bear steal another bears identity?
Was it really a sow, or did it just identify as one?
You’ll have to bear with me...
He probably had Life Lock
“The 10 mm is way too light.”
No kidding. Even 44mag is iffy and that is a lot morepower than 10mm
For obvious reasons, I highly approve of this thread.
“What happened to the babies?”
They tasted like chicken.
“What about a .45 ACP?”
The government of, I think Norway, issues the 10mm to some of her soldiers for protection from the polar bear.
I actually learned a lot on this thread. It’s looking like the 10mm is the closest thing to a hunting rifle in a pistol that you can get. The muzzle velocity is pretty darned impressive, and with a 230 grain bullet. Wow.
But it looks like the .45 is what I need for self defence stuff. We don’t have a lot of brown bears around these parts, and it will take down most everything else...
After I find some folks who want some of my friends, I am going to get a Springfield XDS in .45 as my carry friend. I am quite familiar with the .45 ACP round. Very.
That’s why I carry a RPG-7 when in bear country. I figure, it’ll stop a T-72, It’ll stop a bear.
CC
It don’t count unless he killed it with a spear.
Why not an XDM? Too thick?
The Danish forest rangers have changed over to the Glock 20 as a carry piece for exactly this purpose. I'd love to know what ammo they're shooting. You can always use an after-market barrel with conventional rifling, too, such as the Lone Wolf stuff. I'm looking into that myself at the moment.
There are more powerful loads in .44 magnum and the real monsters such as the .454 Casull, but I find them too painful to practice with, and if you don't train, you're likely to fail. Those are some heavy revolvers, too. They need to be.
Other bears in the ‘hood will ‘take care of them’.
Brown bears rioting as Bear Lives Matter rally erupts in violence after shooting murder of unarmed teen Trayvon Ursa!
An experienced game warden chuckled when I asked if .44 Mag was suitable to carry on an Alaskan fishing trip. He urged .454 Casull plus someone on lookout with a rifle.
Yep, I have both a Colt Delta Elite and a Delta Elite Gold Cup chambered in the 10mm. I love them, the Glock is great, don’t get me wrong, but there is just something about the feel of the single stack 1911 frame that is just so pleasing to the touch that I haven’t wanted to look any further.
Shoot a few full grain 10mm and then switch to the .40, you really notice the difference too. The 10mm is a rather impressive IMHO.
Looking forward to the follow up.
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