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What Will You Do When The Lights Go Out? The Inevitable Failure Of The US Grid
Oilprice.com ^ | 15-08-2016 | Juli

Posted on 08/15/2016 9:04:51 AM PDT by bananaman22

Delta Airlines recently experienced what it called a power outage in its home base of Atlanta, Georgia, causing all the company’s computers to go offline—all of them. This seemingly minor hiccup managed to singlehandedly ground all Delta planes for six hours, stranding passengers for even longer, as Delta scrambled to reshuffle passengers after the Monday debacle.

Where Delta blamed its catastrophic systems-wide computer failure vaguely on a loss of power, Georgia Power, their power provider, placed the ball squarely in Delta’s court, saying that “other Georgia Power customers were not affected”, and that they had staff on site to assist Delta.

Whether it was a true power outage, or an outage unique to Delta is fairly insignificant. The incident was a single company without power for six measly hours, yet it wreaked much havoc. Which brings to mind (or at least it should) what happens when the lights really go out—everywhere? And just how dependent is the U.S. on single-source power?

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: electricity; emp; grid; investment; jihadinamerica; outage; power; powergrid; preparedness
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To: Secret Agent Man

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61 posted on 08/15/2016 10:18:33 AM PDT by Cold Heart
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To: FreedomPoster

It is sad but its not usually a priority.


62 posted on 08/15/2016 10:19:47 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

They’re pretty loud. Mr. Megan took two of his old construction site generators and put them in an outbuilding to use as generators for the ranch when power goes out (happens a lot in the winter). The noise outside isn’t bad but inside the shed you want ear protection when those things are running. Only one of them runs at a time and the other is a backup.


63 posted on 08/15/2016 10:19:52 AM PDT by MeganC (JE SUIS CHARLES MARTEL!!!)
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To: Cobra64

That is hands down the most disturbing book I have ever read.


64 posted on 08/15/2016 10:20:13 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (Socialists are just communists in their larval stage.)
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To: Cold Heart

Great tip!


65 posted on 08/15/2016 10:20:16 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: FreedomPoster; Blueflag
Yes, it does.

Wouldn't want to be their IT manager, nor their Disaster Recovery guy...

66 posted on 08/15/2016 10:20:22 AM PDT by kiryandil (Hillary Clinton is not sophisticated enough to understand the Bill of Rights, either.)
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To: BenLurkin

Watch TV by candle light.

But if we all want to see what it looks like when the power goes out look no further than Detroit, Baltimore, Ferguson, and now, Milwaukie.


67 posted on 08/15/2016 10:21:54 AM PDT by Organic Panic (Hillary Clinton, the elderly white woman's version of "I dindu nuffins.")
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To: FreedomPoster

I suspected a hack.


68 posted on 08/15/2016 10:22:57 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you really want to irritate someone, point out something obvious they are trying hard to ignore.)
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To: JAKraig

Won’t an EMP burn out all of the electronins in AC Units and all Generators (gas & solar), making them useless?


69 posted on 08/15/2016 10:25:55 AM PDT by JohnT416
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To: 556x45
It's not impossible to have power problems.

Former company rented space at an enormous data center. Place had bulletproof power in place - multiple sources, plenty of UPS, generated power for days. No worries, right?

Not so much. We got hit twice about a month apart, two power "hiccups". Downtime length doesn't really matter, if the power goes out for 5 seconds or 5 days, you've lost everything in-flight, computers are going to reboot, etc. We lost a fair number of harddrives when all of the servers cycled. Major PITA.

Much, much later I heard (unofficially, through an engineer there) that the outages were caused by a disgruntled employee who knew where the weak points were.

So - it happens. Not unimaginable.

70 posted on 08/15/2016 10:29:01 AM PDT by wbill
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To: CrazyIvan; Travis McGee

That is hands down the most disturbing book I have ever read.


I could not finish it. I did read Travis McGee’s short story/essay on same subject and finished it...Very profound!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3058882/posts?q=1&;page=381


71 posted on 08/15/2016 10:30:03 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 (election is about Liberty versus Tyranny and National Sovereignty versus Globalism👍)
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To: FreedomPoster
This is what happens when you let computer techie types run the old-school basic infrastructure

"Computer techie types" know that servers and routers don't work without power. More likely the fault of "manager bean-counter types" who saw a way to "save money" and ordered corners to be cut.

72 posted on 08/15/2016 10:30:46 AM PDT by Campion (Halten Sie sich unbedingt an die Lehre!)
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To: CrazyIvan; All
That is hands down the most disturbing book I have ever read.

Disturbing, yes. This one is frightening, and will become an eventuality; not if, but when.

Schools are open hunting grounds. After reading this, every American will have a firearm, and be trained on how to use it in a national mass murder crisis.

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73 posted on 08/15/2016 10:32:20 AM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn't common any more.)
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To: onona

Wondering what is this website you are linking to? War is Boring??

Who is the author, Mathew Gault...What are his credentials??

Do you agree with the article that EMP threat is overrated?


74 posted on 08/15/2016 10:35:51 AM PDT by Freedom56v2 (election is about Liberty versus Tyranny and National Sovereignty versus Globalism👍)
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To: wbill

Then their backup power plan was junk. In my experience power fail or fluctuation doesnt cause computing outages. Sounds like you and they cheaped out on that plan or didnt understand how it should go together.


75 posted on 08/15/2016 10:36:18 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: BenLurkin

LOL! Best accomplished with your eyes closed.


76 posted on 08/15/2016 10:36:29 AM PDT by V K Lee (u TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP to TRIUMPH Follow the lead MAKE AMERICA GREAT)
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To: RayChuang88

When is the last time a nuclear power plant was built in the United States? What are best industry estimates for the next nuke plant to go online here in ye olde homeland? It is very frustrating to me that this incredibly powerful, cheap and safe technology is being ignored - in favor of costly alternatives of dubious value.


77 posted on 08/15/2016 10:38:07 AM PDT by karnage
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To: FreedomPoster

Sorry - if you ask the techies, they’ll tell you, at a minumum, to put in UPSs to allow a graceful shutdown.
Generators are better.
Running tests where you pull the plug completely to see if the generators come on line or the UPSs allow the graceful shutdown are best of all.


78 posted on 08/15/2016 11:03:26 AM PDT by Little Ray (Freedom Before Security!)
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To: bushwon
yeah, it's war is boring website.

Gault works for Reuters and contributes to war is boring. He contributes to Real Clear Defense also (offshoot of Real Clear Politics).

I don't know much else about him.

I think it's worth considering the opinions within the article. Using a nuke to create an EMP raises interesting scenarios.

79 posted on 08/15/2016 11:48:54 AM PDT by onona (Honey this isn't Kindergarten. We are in an all out war for the survival of our Country !)
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To: MichaelCorleone

Exactly.


80 posted on 08/15/2016 11:52:06 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Go away, Satan! -- Fr.Jacques Hamel (R.I.P., martyr))
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