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CA: Dr. Dre, Billionaire, Citizens Arrest for Brandishng a Gun, with no Evidence of Gun? by Police
Gun Watch ^ | 27 July, 2016 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 08/03/2016 5:25:18 AM PDT by marktwain


Dr. Dre is an extremely successful business man and music mogul.  He has built  an empire on music, video, movies, and a sale to Apple.  He may have a net worth of over a billion dollars. He is the black man in handcuffs in the white t-shirt.  Seem bizarre?  So is the story.  A person who is unnamed claims that Dr. Dre displayed a gun while asking him to leave. Dr. Dre has a different version of events. From cnsnews.com:

Dre, whose real name is Andre Young, told sheriff's deputies he didn't have a gun and that the man was blocking his driveway. He says the man moved his car but parked nearby. He says the man drove off after Dre recorded video of him.

Dre was briefly handcuffed while deputies investigated. No weapon was found at the scene, but deputies say the man initiated a citizen's arrest for misdemeanor brandishing a firearm.
More information was available at atlantablackstar.com.  Everyone is hyped about threats to black men and to police officers.  The last month has been a media frenzy following to police shooting of two black men and the assassinations of eight police officers.  This situation was handled with a minimum of muss or fuss. From atlantablackstar.com:
 Officers say the music producer was cooperative and consented to the search. He denied all allegations of the gun, informing police the man was parked directly in front of his driveway and blocking him in. The rapper asked him to leave – and he did – but immediately came back and parked in almost the exact same spot at the median in front of the home. Dre pulled out a cellphone to record what was going on and then the man drove off.

Pigeons and Planes reported that even though no weapon was found, the driver filed a police report. The case will go to the District Attorney, who will then decide if there is a legitimate case against the hip-hop artist.

Dre said the driver had previously engaged in a road-rage-type incident on the highway and followed him home, according to an LA Times source close to the investigation.
There is a video at atlantablackstar.com that shows some of the handcuffing.

 Link to video

At first glance, it appears as though the police overreacted.  A simple allegation by someone about a gun, and the police handcuff and search you at your home?

It fits into the idea that  "California has gone crazy on guns so I expect the police there to ignore the Constitution, no matter a person's color".

But I think something a bit more clever may be going on.  Dr. Dre is a very successful business man, known in the community.  Maybe he has a problem with a stalker/fan.  

But the police cannot just give him the name of someone who accused him, if there is no case.  And the police have no case.  They know that. Instead they talk to Dr. Dre about it.  If he consents to a limited search outside of his home, (it appears it was just outside he property line) the police can truthfully report that they searched and did not find any firearm.  That means absent other witnesses or video, the "brandishing case" is kaput.  It is a "he said" "she said" and the police report comes down on Dr. Dre's side.

Now for the clever bit.  The person who complained has filed a "citizens arrest" report.  This makes that person an official accuser. 

The whole thing will be thrown out. But with an official complaint, doesn't Dr. Dre have the right to know the name of his accuser?  Maybe Dr. Dre will be able to obtain a restraining order.

There is another cynical, off the wall, possibility.  Dr. Dre is in the entertainment industry.  That industry lives off of media attention.  Dr. Dre's situation just created millions of dollars worth of media attention.

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Having the person who complained file a "Citizens arrest" report in California may be a good way to identify the accuser.
1 posted on 08/03/2016 5:25:18 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

The whole thing will be thrown out. But with an official complaint, doesn’t Dr. Dre have the right to know the name of his accuser?

If he deems this an “arrest” he could also be sued for false arrest.


2 posted on 08/03/2016 5:29:05 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws maintain the status quo now.)
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To: marktwain

FOIA the 9-1-1 call. etc. etc. ...


3 posted on 08/03/2016 5:30:40 AM PDT by Coffee... Black... No Sugar (I'm gonna' BICKER!)
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To: marktwain

It’s not uncommon for someone to be handcuffed after a report of a gun, he wasn’t arrested.


4 posted on 08/03/2016 5:35:44 AM PDT by Donglalinger
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To: Mouton

He was being detained. I don’t blame the cops. They are responding to a call about a gun. It’s hard to reach for a gun when your handcuffed.

Now, if the citizen that made the arrest filed a false arrest claim then I’m sure Dr. Dre can sue his butt off.


5 posted on 08/03/2016 5:36:00 AM PDT by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: PJammers

Yes I was unclear about the suit subject, it would indeed be the individual making the citizens arrest, not the coppers.


6 posted on 08/03/2016 5:36:54 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws maintain the status quo now.)
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To: marktwain

would appear to be manufactured news per the article.

If you are the police it is dammed if you do and dammed if you don’t


7 posted on 08/03/2016 5:39:33 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: marktwain

Nope, AA billionaires dont be breakin’ no laws ..


8 posted on 08/03/2016 5:39:55 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: marktwain

What I note here (and I am NOT a Dr. Dre fan - whoever he is) is that a rich and clearly INTELLIGENT black man cooperated, was not shot, and was released.

Now he is back to whatever it is he does all day long, rather than involved with this stupidity


9 posted on 08/03/2016 5:47:19 AM PDT by Mr. K (Trump will win NY state - choke on that HilLIARy)
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To: Donglalinger
"It’s not uncommon for someone to be handcuffed after a report of a gun, he wasn’t arrested."

Being fettered and denied your freedom and liberty sure sounds like an arrest. He may not have been hauled in, booked ans charged but his liberty surely was halted.

10 posted on 08/03/2016 5:47:21 AM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Donglalinger

If they handcuff you and detain you, you ARE under arrest, even if they let you go later.


11 posted on 08/03/2016 5:55:03 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Socialism is always just one or a thousand or a million more murders away from utopia.)
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To: Donglalinger

Hell, I was handcuffed for a traffic accident.


12 posted on 08/03/2016 5:58:59 AM PDT by School of Rational Thought
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“It’s not uncommon for someone to be handcuffed after a report of a gun, he wasn’t arrested.”

If you’re in handcuffs you are arrested, as in not free to go about your business.


13 posted on 08/03/2016 5:59:12 AM PDT by dljordan (WhoVoltaire: "To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize.")
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To: marktwain

Though not applicable in this case, gangs sometimes use a street technique of a gun caddy who is underage, who keeps and provides an illegal gun when needed.

If the caddy is arrested, he tells the police that he found the gun, gets some time in the juvenile justice system, then is handsomely compensated. But if an adult gang member needs the gun, it is right there and available on demand. After use, it is returned to the caddy.

In some circumstances, guns have been used in several shootings, by different adults in different places, giving the others good alibis if they are arrested or searched.

Again, this doesn’t fit this particular situation. But Dre should know better, and sent an employee to drive off the pest, instead of placing himself at risk.


14 posted on 08/03/2016 6:03:19 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: marktwain
He is the black man in handcuffs in the white t-shirt

Where the heck is his HEAD?

15 posted on 08/03/2016 6:05:38 AM PDT by sargon (George Will is a RINO compromiser that devolved the GOP to the Uni-party leadership we have today.)
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To: sargon
That photo has been altered to remove his friggin' HEAD?

WHY?

16 posted on 08/03/2016 6:06:19 AM PDT by sargon (George Will is a RINO compromiser that devolved the GOP to the Uni-party leadership we have today.)
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To: marktwain

The article mentions that Dre said the accuser and he had been involved in a “road rage” incident before this, and that’s why (it’s implied) the man parked there in the way of Dre’s driveway. Perhaps he thought the cell phone pointed at him was a gun, or perhaps there was a gun brandished during the road rage incident. Either way, that was some silliness involved, and Dre did well to be calm and cooperative, lest he be arrested and investigated for the road rage incident. Sure, he might get released after police “clear it up,” but he could be beaten or killed while in custody (by other arrestees) awaiting his release, etc., plus, why go through that nonsense? I don’t personally like the handcuff part, but that comes down to officer discretion and departmental policy, so I hope the officer was reasonable and followed policy. That policy can always be challenged and changed.


17 posted on 08/03/2016 6:06:57 AM PDT by Notthemomma
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To: sargon

I thought he was simply leaning into the wall on the other side of that post with the black rectangle sticking out (? light fixture ?). Look at the others in the picture closer to the viewer and see the pattern—they stick out from the wall enough for a head to lean in past the top of the post.


18 posted on 08/03/2016 6:09:37 AM PDT by Notthemomma
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To: School of Rational Thought
Hell, I was handcuffed for a traffic accident.

Me too, and it was bullshit without probable cause.

19 posted on 08/03/2016 6:11:08 AM PDT by sargon (George Will is a RINO compromiser that devolved the GOP to the Uni-party leadership we have today.)
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To: sargon

WHY?...Cop was a Muslim?


20 posted on 08/03/2016 6:11:13 AM PDT by Safetgiver (Islam looks perversion look genteel.)
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