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Questions all Americans should be asking themselves about women in combat
US Defense Watch ^ | May 22, 2016 | Ray Starmann

Posted on 05/22/2016 8:02:30 PM PDT by pboyington

Most Americans have never spent a day in uniform in America of 2016 and that is a problem. The White House social engineers have been able to manipulate the Congress and the American people and have led them to believe that women can serve successfully in the combat arms and special operations because most Americans don’t understand anything about the military.

Combine the ignorance of a nation, with the political correctness of Congress and the moral cowardice of the Joint Chiefs and it’s open season to destroy the military if your Valerie Jarrett, Ray Mabus, Ash Carter or Barack Hussein Obama.

Ash Carter’s recent authorization to allow women to serve in the combat arms (infantry, armor, armored cavalry, artillery) and special operations units (Navy SEALs, Marine Recon, the Rangers, the Green Berets, Delta Force) is probably the single biggest disaster for the US military in our nation’s history.

As Memorial Day looms on the horizon this week, Americans must stop and ask themselves some questions. The fate of our country may very well be in jeopardy as the military integrates women into direct ground combat units.

Every American should ask if they want their daughters, sisters, mothers, wives and sweethearts exposed to the horrors of ground combat.

Furthermore, why are we doing this to our nation? The nation is not in mortal peril. We have millions of young men who can serve in the combat arms and special operations. Why are we deliberately weakening ourselves to fulfill agendas created by radicals who know nothing about the military?

Secretary of Defense, Ash Carter has indicated that every Army and Marine combat arms and special ops unit will be required to fulfill mandatory quotas of 25-35% women in every detachment, company and battalion.

Meaning for every 100 soldiers or Marines in a combat unit, up to 35 of them will be women.

I could tell Americans to read any number of books about the nature of modern war, but perhaps visual mediums are the best to convey the horrors of ground combat; especially since these films and series are known for their outstanding accuracy.

This Memorial Day weekend the cable networks will certainly play a myriad of war movies and military TV shows.

Every American should watch Saving Private Ryan, Band of Brothers, the Pacific, Platoon and Blackhawk Down and ask if they really believe women can perform well enough, much less survive, in ground combat to win our nation’s wars.

Watch Saving Private Ryan and ask if women could have survived a trip to Omaha Beach? What if our units on D-Day actually had up to 35% women? Omaha may have very well have been lost and in fact, the whole invasion would have been a shambles despite the success on Utah. World War II would have lasted perhaps two more years in Europe and Hitler’s mass murder of the Jews would have been completed. On D-Day, the fate of the free world and indeed the lives of millions of people living under Nazi subjugation hung in the balance. Those young men that landed on the beaches of Normandy and who parachuted into French fields the night before had an enormous responsibility on their shoulders. They knew it and they succeeded. But, would a coed D-Day operation have been successful? It is highly doubtful.

Watch Saving Private Ryan and ask if women could have survived a street by street, building by building battle with Hitler’s elite Waffen SS?

Watch Band of Brothers, the brilliant and perhaps the greatest military mini-series of all time and ask if women could have held off wave after wave of the German Army as they hit the fragile sub-zero perimeter around Bastogne?

Watch the Pacific; the mini-series based on the works, Helmet for My Pillow by Robert Leckie and With the Old Breed and Peleliu and Okinawa by Eugene Sledge, and ask how America’s young women would have done in brutal, close quarters combat with the fanatical Japanese Imperial Army?

Watch Platoon, Oliver Stone’s masterpiece about the Vietnam War and think to yourself how many women are capable of humping a 110 pound ruck up jungle trails for days or weeks at a time. Then ask yourself how women would deal with feminine hygiene issues in the middle of the Vietnamese jungle while on sustained combat operations against Victor Charlie and NVA Regulars.

Watch Ridley Scott’s, Blackhawk Down and ask how women would have done in the Rangers or in Delta Force as a handful of the elite troopers held off hundreds and hundreds of madmen loyal to warlord Mohammed Farah Aidid on the streets of Mogandishu, Somalia, in violent, room to room, alley to alley combat.

The social engineers, the dingbat feminist professors, the five deferments to get out of Vietnam, Vice Presidents like Joe Biden will tell you that war is fought by drones, lasers guided bombs and high speed smart phone apps. But, nothing can be further from the truth. The military still needs combat soldiers to find, fix and kill the enemy. It still needs special operators to carve their initials in the craniums of ISIS thugs in the middle of the night. The military still needs rough and ready men to complete impossible missions. The fate of the nation depends on it.

Our enemies are not only laughing at us, but planning to destroy us. The daily threats by the Russians and the Chinese and ISIS and Iran are a harbinger of things to come. Unless we get tough and get tough fast, we are in danger of not only losing wars, but losing the country.

We are at a tipping point. If the insane policies of this administration are not amended and amended soon, we may be witnessing the final days of the United States of America.


TOPICS: Government; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: bhodod; biden; militaryreadiness; militarywomen; obama; usmilitary; womenincombat; wwii
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To: 13foxtrot

“One USMA female cadet I know who branched infantry is on the triathlon team.”

They’re going to put a girl in charge of a platoon in combat?

Incredible.


21 posted on 05/22/2016 9:36:33 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: 13foxtrot

“female leadership”

Wow. The oxymoron of the millennium, this early.


22 posted on 05/22/2016 9:38:01 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc
Margret Thatcher

http://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/politics/sas-margaret-thatcher-iranian-embassy-siege

Enough said. Do not reply. I don't take kindly to idiots.

23 posted on 05/22/2016 9:44:16 PM PDT by Chgogal (Obama "hung the SEALs out to dry, basically exposed them like a set of dog balls..." CMH)
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To: pboyington
I'm against women in combat and on combat ships or in combat units. Navy wise I would be interested to know how readiness issues stack up time wise against the Reagan Ear Navy. Several things to consider are as follows. General Quarters aka battle stations where you have less then 15 minutes on a carrier to not only report to your station but be manned, equipped and ready. This includes a condition of Damage Control readiness called material condition Zebra. Zebra is the securing of all hatches from bot3tom to top.

Next is another highly critical response time All Hands and that is Man Overboard. We had to physically report to our work station and no one not even the Captain was exempt. The person on watch had to make an on sight muster of all hands in the shop. This often happened after many shops had stopped work for the day at sea usually at night. It was essential to determine if indeed someone fell over, what side the fell from, what clothing and water survival gear they possibly had on them, and how many persons for certain. If you were taking a shower when the whistle was blown for man overboard was blown you wrapped in a towel and immediately reported.

Then there is the ever danger of fire which any sailor respects and knows the dangers of. Manning a fire hose takes two teams of three men of pretty significant size while about 175 PSI of water pressure came out of the nozzles. Each duty section had about 12-15 men on fire department duty section to do all the task it required. Then there is the issue of casualties and having to save an injured shipmate by doing a fireman carry up a trunk. Fire Bell was a limited response usually by the ships fire department.

I was in the Fire Dept and we often dressed and were gearing up while running down the passageway. For the Pre-1980 carrier vets reading this in 1980 carriers or at least mine went to a permanent Fire Dept Division both in port and at sea.

Then there is the physical strength needed. My shop had to move 200 lb barrels of R-11 frequently and get it from the hanger deck down to the 6th deck without killing ourselves or others. There is also the reality of death at sea due to accidents. Anybody ready to see their daughter killed by an accident during a routine peacetime aircraft re-spot? Ships go to sea and some men die both in war and peace.

For Snipes meaning ones working in Engineering there is the danger of a Steam Break. Yes even on Nukes as they are steamers. On a carrier it's 1200 psi of super heated steam. Super heated means you can not see it.

Look at a pencil lead. A steam leak that size can decapitate anyone coming in contact with it. You can't hear it and you can't see it. It isn't love boat nor the good ship lollipop. It is a combat vessel meant for war. By all means watch Trial By Fire. Any recruit before enlisting should watch it. Those are real men really dieing. It is flightdeck footage.

24 posted on 05/22/2016 10:15:59 PM PDT by cva66snipe ((Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?))
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To: pboyington

Any female combatant captured by Muslims can be expected to star in her own pron snuff film. Women don’t belong in combat.


25 posted on 05/22/2016 10:45:54 PM PDT by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: pboyington

I don’t care how it is rationalized. Once s culture loses the concept of women and children first, it is doomed.


26 posted on 05/23/2016 12:57:45 AM PDT by Ophiucus
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To: Chgogal

“Enough said. Do not reply. I don’t take kindly to idiots.”

Pack sand, moron. If you can’t see the difference between sitting in a comfy government office and leading grunts in the mud, you shouldn’t be opening your mouth in front of the adults.


27 posted on 05/23/2016 1:09:34 AM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: pboyington

This goes away when the pile of body bags gets high enough.


28 posted on 05/23/2016 2:45:24 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: pboyington

Just identify 35% of the men as transgender women and it will be OK...

:)


29 posted on 05/23/2016 2:45:53 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: ladyjane

The first photo was not kept from the American public. It was release in early 1943. The dead are Americans from the 32nd Infantry division, killed during the Buna landings in late 1942. The are among the first photos of American KIAs released to the American public during WWII.


30 posted on 05/23/2016 3:10:15 AM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: pboyington

Women: Stop voting Democrat and this won’t be an issue.


31 posted on 05/23/2016 3:19:59 AM PDT by PLMerite (Compromise is Surrender: The Revolution...will not be kind.)
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To: PROCON
I created this graph to illustrate the point. It is the red hatched area that is the problem.

Everyone knows there are women out there who might be able to physically outperform some guy, that is a no-brainer. The feminists will cherry pick a candidate, kind of like Billy Jean King picked to play against some 60 year old guy.

But when you ramp this up to thousands of randomly chosen men (boot camp environment) versus randomly chosen women, this graph above comes into play.

There is no contest in the average male physical strength versus the average female physical strength.

32 posted on 05/23/2016 3:42:25 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Irrational violence against muslims" is a myth, but "Irrational violence against non-muslims" isn't)
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To: 13foxtrot

13foxtrot, is isn’t a case of one female being able to do something some randomly chosen guys can’t do.

It is a case of everything from combat logistics right down to unit cohesion.

If you find one woman who can do the job of a SEAL, will the logistical chain and facilities everywhere be adjusted to account for this single female who can cut it? Or will she be expected to be exactly like the guys, use the same facilities, medical care, supply chain, etc.?

As for branching girls into combat MOSs because of diversity, is there even any question about that?

It really doesn’t have anything to do with respecting women or accepting leadership from them. This is combat, not industry.


33 posted on 05/23/2016 3:50:16 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Irrational violence against muslims" is a myth, but "Irrational violence against non-muslims" isn't)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
I have no issue with the rare woman who can stand toe to toe with any man doing any job she wishes in the military.

I do.

34 posted on 05/23/2016 3:51:19 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: cpdiii

As I understand it, the Israeli men were traumatized by the women that were wounded and killed; there is no way to prepare people for that.


35 posted on 05/23/2016 4:07:51 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: wrench

“she excels at is making right turns on the track”

I think they are left turns! I agree with the idea of your post though.

Motor car racing is not a good equate for military i.e. they have not redone the facilities to accommodate her on the track. What POs me the most here is the first line of the note: Most have never spent a day in the military. I would not want to go into the field with women under my command or in my unit, it is that simple, and not because I am a sexist. It is because I want a unified group with one goal in mind and that goal does not include how am I going to accommodate one or more less than effective personnel. I am not saying that women cannot be in the military....we had a WAC, WAVE, and WAFs for years.

The jerks in DC just don’t want to get it. They are nothing but a bunch of feminists or pajama boys. Those asses look at the military as some kind of job corps or technical training operation. The Army’s job is to break things and kill people. It is that simple; everything else is conversation.


36 posted on 05/23/2016 4:20:13 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws maintain the status quo now.)
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To: Bull Snipe

IIRC, the photo in question was originally doctored before release to edit out the maggots on the corpse in the foreground. They can be see in this version on the Soldier’s back.


37 posted on 05/23/2016 4:32:42 AM PDT by canalabamian (Durka durka...Muhammad FUBAR!)
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To: ladyjane

would a coed D-Day operation have been successful? It is highly doubtful. Well, we won’t ever know the answer to that question, but we do know our tradition as a Nation, and the Founding Fathers acknowledgment as to the place of women in society. In the home having and raising children not engaged in political or physical battles and not needing the vote by virtue of their traditional influence raising the next generation, not to mention the generational influence as homemaker, nurturer, and educator to a Nation of men and women who recognize and honor historical tradition.

Ignore the traditions of history, and we are bound to find out at some point why those traditions were in place and important. There are a few women who would trade child birth for combat arms, but men if they were intelligent would reject the idea as foolish and short sighted. Feminism alone along with the idea that killing the next generation through legal, but I suggest not lawful means, is nothing more than a simple thing called “choice”, is to forget tradition. To understand the scriptural words “reap the whirlwind”, we need only continue on course the present generation has set for us.


38 posted on 05/23/2016 4:38:17 AM PDT by wita
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To: Bulwyf

Even if they can physically do it, no women in combat.

It’s morally wrong.

...and that my friends is reason enough!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


39 posted on 05/23/2016 4:44:32 AM PDT by wita
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To: pboyington
When fully considering why we engage in war to begin with, and why we are sending Americans to their death or to their disablement, we must consider that sending our women into war is having lost it.

Are we not going to war to protect a way of life? We call it "the American way of life," do we not?

By sending American women into combat, are we not actually changing incalculably the "way of life" in our country? Are we not destroying by social engineering what we say we are defending by going to war?

Literally millions of American families have maintained by deliberate choice the family structure, reasons for and vows of marriage, child-rearing design, educational objectives, religious faith and hope, etc., that were held by their grandparents' and great grandparents' generation (i.e., that which existed when we were fighting Germany and Japan). We include ourselves in that "way of life." We take this as "the American way of life." This is what we expect to be defended.

Millions of American families, yes, today in 2016, still educate and train their women for building the next generation of American Christian patriot statesmen and jurists, soldiers, ministers and missionaries. We educate and train our daughters to be the next generation of wives and mothers who can accomplish the rearing of such individuals. We firmly believe that the home and family as it existed generally, say, from 1600 to 1950 is necessary to produce the finest results. And in our Biblicist Christian faith, we further believe that is being obedient to God and it is what brings glory to Him.

Tell us, and millions of American families like us, how the social engineering in the modern progressive Pentagon can convince us that the "American way of life" is being defended when they insist that we abandon that way of life and send our daughters into combat.

What? Even young mothers leaving their husbands at home, their darling children at home with relatives, to don combat dress, and carry rifles around in the deserts of the Middle East or in fields elsewhere? This is defending the "American way of life?" Someone can tell us this this dissolution of family structure and purpose is defending the American way of life?

We could never believe this.

40 posted on 05/23/2016 4:55:24 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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