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He’s a jerk, but now he’s our jerk. And yes, he can win.
Flopping Aces ^ | 05-04-16 | DrJohn

Posted on 05/04/2016 10:13:49 AM PDT by Starman417

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Donald Trump has won the Indiana primary in landslide. With Ted Cruz dropping out and barring a coup d'etat at the convention he is the nominee.

Trump's negatives are very high (but then, so are Hillary's) but it is undeniable that there is a hunger out there for what he represents. And that is, being out of the yoke of the establishment. Statements such as this

"The media has created the perception that the voters choose the nomination. That's the conflict here,"
really piss people off. The GOP overlords make clear that your vote doesn't matter. It's an Outer Limits kind of thing:

https://youtu.be/FCcdr4O-3gE

Voting for Trump makes people feel like they still are part of a democracy and they want a voice. For better or worse, Trump is not beholden to mega donors. In fact, they're sitting on their checkbooks, and frankly, that will provide Trump with even more appeal to the average voter.

Trump can win. He can beat Hillary. Some interesting rumblings are afoot. There is a recent Rasmussen poll showing Trump over Hillary 41-39:

Last week, Rasmussen Reports gave voters the option of staying home on Election Day if Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are the big party nominees, and six percent (6%) said that’s what they intend to do for now. Clinton and Trump were tied with 38% support each; 16% said they would vote for some other candidate, and two percent (2%) were undecided.

But Trump edges slightly ahead if the stay-at-home option is removed. Trump also now does twice as well among Democrats as Clinton does among Republicans.

A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey of Likely U.S. Voters finds Trump with 41% support to Clinton’s 39%. Fifteen percent (15%) prefer some other candidate, and five percent (5%) are undecided. (To see survey question wording, click here.)

Trump has reached a new high level of support among Republicans:
Donald Trump reached a new high among Republicans in a national NBC News|SurveyMonkey poll released Tuesday.

The real estate mogul has 56 percent support, more than doubling his advantage over Ted Cruz, who sits at 22 percent. John Kasich rounds out the survey with 14 percent support. An additional 7 percent remain undecided.

But it's later on in the article that things get interesting:
In a hypothetical head-to-head matchup, Clinton beats both Trump and Cruz, though many voters haven’t surveyed haven’t decided who they would vote for. Of those who did, however, Clinton tops Trump by 6 percentage points (43 percent to 37 percent) and Cruz by 14 percentage points (44 percent to 30 percent).
Six points is not a big lead for now and that was with Cruz in the race. But here's why Trump can win. A CNN/ORC poll shows Clinton leading 54-41 but again, it's in the nitty gritty where the important stuff lies:

(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net ...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 100percentliberal; 2016gopprimary; 2therightofcruz; clinton; trump
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To: MayflowerMadam
You know, I do not think I have ever heard that in real life and I am 72. If I did, I forgot it. I see it online, though. I hear God bless you a lot.
61 posted on 05/04/2016 11:24:10 AM PDT by MamaB (Heb. 13:2)
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To: Paradox

How abiut this: he isn’t any more or less of a jerk than any other Republican or Democrat politician that ran this year.


62 posted on 05/04/2016 11:25:08 AM PDT by RC one
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To: Ajnin

Sometimes relationships don’t work out.

Whatever.


63 posted on 05/04/2016 11:27:07 AM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: BenLurkin
"Look at it this way, whatever kind of President he’ll be, whatever his true political philosophy is...the next four years will be interesting with him in the Oval Office."

Then, if American voters don't like him as president, they can say, You are fired!

If the voters, not the elites and TDS whiners, like Trump as president, they can renew his 4 year contract.

That is the American way!

64 posted on 05/04/2016 11:29:21 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Defeat the Clintoons and put both of them in Jail in 2017! Join us & help or get out of our way!)
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To: Thumper1960; georgia girl

Not with the Never Trump Tedomites.


65 posted on 05/04/2016 11:29:51 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: All

Major change is needed, just not entirely sure that Trump represents the best version of that major change.

However, at this point there is probably no turning back, or Berning tack, so unless there’s a surprise Cruz at the last minute, I guess the last trump will sound and we will face our maker with the Obama nation behind us (and hopefully so far behind that they can’t find us).


66 posted on 05/04/2016 11:30:43 AM PDT by Peter ODonnell (I am first in line to be Ben Carson's running mate as well as time machine engineer)
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67 posted on 05/04/2016 11:33:01 AM PDT by Bobalu (Government treats you like a milk cow. If things get tough, they will treat you like a beef cow)
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To: livius
Not my jerk, and there’s no way I’d ever vote for him.

Just take a moment and realize that, on the flip side of the coin, there are many people like me that detest Cruz and would have voted for Cruz anyways.

If you hold anything dear: 2nd amendment, freedom of speech & religion, etc., you will be absolutely under assault on a daily basis with Hillary.

You may want to answer this one question: Who loves America more, Hillary or Trump?

68 posted on 05/04/2016 11:33:01 AM PDT by The Iceman Cometh (It's going to be tough to unite the Republican party,but we must. Our children can't afford Hillary)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

must get street cred over at DU


69 posted on 05/04/2016 11:33:04 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory ((ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government))
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To: Ajnin

So much butthurt, so little interest. :-)


70 posted on 05/04/2016 11:33:45 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: livius; Jim Robinson

Ask Jim to repost Trump’s positions for you to ignore again and to spit in Jim’s face again.

Jim posted his postions, and like all Hilliarily buds, you ignored them!


71 posted on 05/04/2016 11:34:52 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (Defeat the Clintoons and put both of them in Jail in 2017! Join us & help or get out of our way!)
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To: livius
Not my jerk, and there’s no way I’d ever vote for him. He’s a crazy, immoral jerk, who has also failed in every business he has been in (they’ve gone into bankruptcy, foreclosure or have ended in massive lawsuits) except for the RE business he inherited from Daddy, which he apparently let Daddy’s people run. Well, them and the Mob, because Trump’s father was famously mobbed up and in with the mobbed up construction unions.

Did you ever take a look at The Hildabeast & her accomplishments? She got kicked off of the Watergate investigation because she was "crooked", lying. She tags along with Bubba to Arkansas - because she could not pass the bar exam in D.C. She gets her jobs there only because of Bubba. Remember the Rose Law Firm, Vince Foster, Jim McDougal, Tyson, Cattle futures, etc. This is only a start.

72 posted on 05/04/2016 11:38:42 AM PDT by Digger
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To: COUNTrecount

It stinks someone would post this. Cruz is out. Why kick a guy when he’s down? Focus on HRC now.


73 posted on 05/04/2016 11:47:02 AM PDT by utahagen
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To: MayflowerMadam

I just read another saying on FB:
“ You can just get glad in the same britches
You got mad in.”
Love it.


74 posted on 05/04/2016 11:52:06 AM PDT by MamaB (Heb. 13:2)
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To: Ajnin

The bitterness you retain can be very painful the longer you cling to it.


75 posted on 05/04/2016 11:59:51 AM PDT by TheStickman (If we don't elect a PRO-America president in 2016 we lose the country!)
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To: Starman417

One more time...
WHY WOULD WE ELECT PRESIDENT A GUY WHO...?

Why would this country elect as president some guy who was known to regale friends with nigger* jokes, grew up with a boyhood hatred of slavery because his father regularly hired him out for heavy manual labor then confiscated his earnings, had a history of depression, was suicidal from time to time (in his defense, probably due to the death of his young son, but suicidal nonetheless) and eventually started an internecine war ostensibly to halt a slavery that was, due to its inherent inefficiency, fading out – and during which he thoroughly trampled the Constitution he claimed he was attempting to preserve – that took the lives of over 700,000 troops and civilians and...
What? Oh, yeah. That was LINCOLN! never mind!
*A corruption of another word now freely used by blacks around the world when referring to one another. To NOT have written the word here would be to accord the dark forces of political correctness an inappropriate and destructive victory of which Orwell’s Thought Police would be proud.

And why would we elect as president a retired military guy who was accurately reputed to have a very, very foul mouth and an alcoholic and...
What? Oh, that was U.S.Grant. Sorry.

Why would we elect to the presidency and fellow who was well known for his hyperbolic and profane bluster during his campaigns and while in the office and..? That would have been Teddy Roosevelt who, when faced with a recurrence of the trouble with the muslims in the Med that plagued Mr. Jefferson, successfully backed them down.

Why would we elect president some guy who was not healthy and smoked 3 packs of cigarettes a day, married his fifth cousin then had a notorious affair with his secretary and had as his closest adviser one Harry Hopkins, who, during a trip to a Maryland racetrack and around 5 martinis into a bad day at the races , was overheard by a reporter to enunciate his and his boss’s philosophy of government:
“TAX AND TAX, SPEND AND SPEND, ELECT AND ELECT. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE TOO DAMN DUMB TO UNDERSTAND!”
What? Oh, sorry, that was FDR!

And why would the American people put in the Oval Office a man who, while overseas running the war in Europe and another 3 pack-a-day smoker, was schtupping his secretary while his wife was back here tending to the family and just prior to D-Day, scheduled a poorly planned, ill-fated live-fire practice for the Normandy invasion (Exercise Tiger) that got over 700 American troops KILLED – HAD THEM BURIED IN A MASS GRAVE – THEN COVERED IT UP!
Oh, sorry. That was Republican DWIGHT EISENHOWER. Moving on...

How about another Democrat whose father was a bootlegger who thought fighting the Nazis was a bad idea but who, to his credit served honorably in the Pacific and managed to get his PT boat sliced in half by a Japanese destroyer but redeemed himself by getting his crew rescued. Running against Nixon in the 1960 race, this same married chap, whose handlers thought he was a bit “tense” before the first televised debate, took him out and got him laid. (That certainly relaxed him as he won the debate.) Once in office, this fellow had numerous extramarital affairs with mob molls and several Hollywood stars, Marilyn Monroe among them and...
Oh yeah. That was JFK. never mind.
(For an interesting aside re. that event and the role a leftist media type played in that debate, please see the footnote below. If you’ve watched the current debates, you understand that THEY STILL DO.)

And then there was this character from Texas who, after his friends counted the ballots and reported him barely ahead in a close race for the Senate, was shocked – just shocked –that the very night before the recount, would you believe it? — the courthouse burned down, destroying the ballots! Like Lincoln, “nigger” was a regular part of his crude vocabulary. This fellow was a notorious womanizer and drunk whose favorite technique for reprimanding errant subordinates was to call them into the lavatory while he moved his bowels. Classy, huh?
Then he...What? You say that was LBJ? never mind.

How in the WORLD could we elect to the presidency some guy who was a 60s socialist radical, later married one even more radical than himself, wangled multiple deferments from MILITARY SERVICE while other kids his age were humping through the bush in Vietnam dodging bullets and who was – and IS – a woman abuser and engaged in sexual misconduct in the Oval Office with at least one young intern then, under oath, perjured himself about it and...
What? Oh, right, that was BILL CLINTON! never mind!

But why the heck would we elect some guy raised by grandparents and some pornographer — all three of whom were on FBI “Communist Watch” lists in the 50s and 60s (back when the FBI actually did its job of trying to protect US) – and whose mother posed nude for the pornographer before abandoning her kid and who has openly admitted to have been – and probably still is – a pot head and user of harder illegal substances and whose every action bespeaks a hatred for the nation he allegedly heads...
What? Oh, right. That’s BARACK OBAMA! never mind!

I haven’t researched all the other folks we elevated to the highest elected office in this country. If I did, I’m sure I’d find warts and blemishes on ALL OF THEM. And why would that be? BECAUSE, LIKE YOU AND ME, THEY’RE ALL IMPERFECT HUMAN BEINGS AND ALL FALL SHORT OF THE GLORY.

Until some leftist “journalist” comes up with a fully documented list of reprehensible things MY candidate – who doesn’t drink or smoke and has raised his kids to be responsible, successful adults – has done to other folks, I’ll stick with TRUMP. And until these same media mavens provide me with a list of associates, friends, employees, clients and others he has screwed over and, further, convince me that he is attempting to prevaricate his way into the presidency (as the last guy did!) or that his profession of LOVE for America is as egregious a lie as the last guy told us, I’LL HANG IN THERE WITH TRUMP.

But my support for The Donald is based more on how the current crop (or is that crAp) of political elites and their media lapdogs and handmaidens are GOING NUTS because he is articulating problems in terms WE USE IN OUR CONVERSATIONS OUT HERE IN “FLYOVER COUNTRY”, AND NOT TALKING ABOUT HOW BEST TO ARRANGE THE DECK CHAIRS ON THE FOUNDERING SHIP CALLED “AMERICA”. Add in that he’s the only candidate who doesn’t need the job but, more importantly, DOESN’T NEED DOUGH FROM THE K STREET RENT SEEKERS WHO ROUTINELY BUY YOUR ALLEGED “REPRESENTATIVES” ON CAPITOL HILL and the rough talking, very UNPC, sometimes crude and impolite (read that “imperfect”) and that he has the “establishment” incompetents who created this mess WETTING THEMSELVES, Trump will remain my guy.

A fellow Freeper recently pointed out ANOTHER, rather strong reason for Trump to NOT GO ROGUE once in office:
I posted this:
“That said, should Trump win and go on prove to be but another undercover Judas Goat sent forth to lead us to the final holding pen of the One World totalitarian abattoir, that “explosive reaction” will make the extreme unpleasantness between 1861 and 1865 look like a peace rally!”
To which he replied:”
That’s why, despite what people say what trump will do, I think Trump loves his children and grand-children too much for that to be his legacy to them.”
Might want to toss that into your current equation!

Because the entrenched forces he faces have a 3 way program for dealing with outsiders (1. IGNORE; 2. DISCREDIT; 3. ELIMINATE), all we have to do is pray he REMAINS ABOVE AMBIENT TEMPERATURE through the debates, the election and, hopefully, on to January 20th, 2017 and an inauguration.

Dick Bachert 9/26/2015 (Edited 3/21/2016)

FOOTNOTE:
The 1960 Nixon-Kennedy Debates were directed by one Don Hewitt, creator of CBS’ “60 Minutes”. Hewitt told Nixon, who had a serious “5 O’clock Shadow” (beard, for you youngsters not familiar with that phrase) that he didn’t need to shave just prior to the program. Hewitt then directed the studio lighting to flatter Kennedy while arranging Nixon’s to make him look like an extra from “The Walking Dead”. Not satisfied, Hewitt slowly tightened the shot each time Nixon spoke so that his head loomed and filled the entire screen on TV sets all over the country. And as we all know, things that “loom” are clearly dangerous and should be avoided. The voters did so and, as we all know, Kennedy won.

I need to add that, warts and all, Kennedy did a pretty good job. While he got it completely wrong at the Bay of Pigs, he defused the Cuban Missile show down with the Soviets. And he was moving in the direction of unhooking our monetary system from the Fed (to which we PAY INTEREST on the currency they create from THIN AIR!), had begun speaking out about lowering taxes and getting us out of Vietnam. Some of us believe that’s why some folks blew off the top of his head on November 22, 1963. As with so many events like these, we may never know the truth.


76 posted on 05/04/2016 12:06:34 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (This entire "administration" has been a series of Reischstag Fires. We know how that turned out!)
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To: ichabod1

No he isn’t. He can’t even run a company. We don’t what he’ll be on anything. He’s held every position possible on all the issues, and having never been elected he has no voting record. All we know is what he says, which changes from week to week.


78 posted on 05/04/2016 12:11:49 PM PDT by discostu (Joan Crawford has risen from the grave)
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To: anton

If, which who knows if he will. The only thing we know about what he really thinks is that it seems to change a lot.


79 posted on 05/04/2016 12:12:52 PM PDT by discostu (Joan Crawford has risen from the grave)
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To: stocksthatgoup

Problem with so many recent election cycles is that both sides constantly suck. I’ve grown weary of the lesser of two evils. I accept that one of these two will wind up president, neither of them will be any good, but much like a circle-K burrito this too shall pass.


80 posted on 05/04/2016 12:14:17 PM PDT by discostu (Joan Crawford has risen from the grave)
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