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Ben Carson Proves He Is NOT A True Christian In One Statement…WOW!!!
Conservative Post H/T: Washington Post ^ | 12/4/2015

Posted on 12/04/2015 6:10:04 PM PST by BlackFemaleArmyColonel

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To: Iscool
Catholics are taught as well that there is not a literal hell,

Check the Catechism of the Catholic Church if you want to post accurate comments about Catholic teaching.

1035 The teaching of the Church affirms the existence of hell and its eternity. Immediately after death the souls of those who die in a state of mortal sin descend into hell, where they suffer the punishments of hell, "eternal fire."615 The chief punishment of hell is eternal separation from God, in whom alone man can possess the life and happiness for which he was created and for which he longs.

61 posted on 12/04/2015 7:10:54 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

I won’t vote for him even though I share his religious beliefs.

I don’t believe in hell. I believe if you haven’t repented of your sins you will be burned but not forever.


62 posted on 12/04/2015 7:14:25 PM PST by muggs
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To: ru4liberty

I’ve got problems with the whole “disloyalty” thing alone.


63 posted on 12/04/2015 7:14:34 PM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: doc1019
Flakes one and all.

I used to work with a guy who viewed himself as the world's greatest Christian. One thing about him...he didn't celebrate Christmas. "Because Jesus wasn't born on Christmas Day....it says so in the Bible!!!" he sputtered at me one time.

Therefore, I am always highly suspicious of people claiming to be the sole arbiter of what Jesus said or what the Bible says. I am very much annoyed by them.

64 posted on 12/04/2015 7:18:39 PM PST by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: DeltaZulu
Only your faith in Christ matters.

So everybody who is not a Christian is going to hell?

65 posted on 12/04/2015 7:20:26 PM PST by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: BastropBarbie

....and what would one need to be “saved” from if there was no belief in hell? Or heaven? Why would sins even matter? Hell is not a condition of salvation, it is the reason FOR salvation.


66 posted on 12/04/2015 7:21:38 PM PST by madison10 (If freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter)
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To: ru4liberty

Sounds to me like you’re the bleeding heart liberal here. I hope all the employees who lose their jobs find better jobs and get better training. Competition can be a bitch. More power to those who give a shit about doing a good job and piss twice all over bad management who are to blame for all business failures.


67 posted on 12/04/2015 7:23:33 PM PST by be-baw (still seeking)
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To: DeltaZulu
I’m not a Carson supporter, but I strongly dislike highly judgmental pronouncements that someone is or isn’t a “True Christian” based on secondary theological issues. There is no biblical requirement to believe in Hell or the rapture as a condition of salvation. Romans 10:8-13 is quite clear. These kinds of articles are divisive and give unbelievers ammunition.

AMEN. And AMEN.

68 posted on 12/04/2015 7:24:55 PM PST by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: ConservativeMind
Do you really have proof that Jesus talked more about Hell than of God, Love, or Truth?

Just a few links where I found this info:

billygraham.org/answer/did-jesus-ever-say-anything-about-hell-i-dont-believe-in-hell-myself

www.patheos.com/blogs/christiancrier/2014/05/08/what-did-jesus-say-or-teach-about-hell

https://www.crossway.org/blog/2014/05/what-did-jesus-teach-about-hell/

69 posted on 12/04/2015 7:32:18 PM PST by BastropBarbie
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To: dforest

Heidi was raised as an Adventist, but as an adult, Heidi has belonged to the Baptist Church. She and Ted are raising their children in the Baptist Church where they live.


70 posted on 12/04/2015 7:32:51 PM PST by conservativejoy (Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God,,,, We can elect Ted Cruz!)
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To: conservativejoy

The articlke still says she is SDA. No matter, she has a very impressive family.


71 posted on 12/04/2015 7:35:08 PM PST by dforest
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To: BastropBarbie

None of what I saw showed that Jesus spoke of Hell more than anything else.


72 posted on 12/04/2015 7:35:46 PM PST by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: cripplecreek

Who the hell does he think he is to tell people where to shop?


73 posted on 12/04/2015 7:53:51 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: Iscool

That’s not what the nuns taught me.


74 posted on 12/04/2015 7:56:27 PM PST by FES0844
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To: CatherineofAragon

Your disloyalty will not go unpunished.


75 posted on 12/04/2015 8:00:44 PM PST by cripplecreek (Pride goes before destruction, and a haughty spirit before a fall.)
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To: sitetest
Although annihilationism is definitely a minority opinion TODAY, it is a belief with a long pedigree in Christianity.

That seems to me to be overstated.

majority of Christian writers, from Tertullian to Luther, have held to traditional notions of hell, especially Latin writers. However, the annihilationist position is not without some historical warrant. Early forms of conditional immortality can be found in the writings of Ignatius of Antioch[13] (d. 108), Justin Martyr[14] (d. 165), and Irenaeus[15] (d. 202). However, the teachings of Arnobius (d. 330) are often interpreted as the first to defend annihilationism explicitly. One quote in particular stands out in Arnobius' second book of Against the Heathen:

Your interests are in jeopardy,-the salvation, I mean, of your souls; and unless you give yourselves to seek to know the Supreme God, a cruel death awaits you when freed from the bonds of body, not bringing sudden annihilation, but destroying by the bitterness of its grievous and long-protracted punishment.[16]

Recently the doctrine has been most often associated with groups descended from or with influences from the Millerite movement of the mid-19th century. These include the Seventh-day Adventist Church, the Church of God (7th day) - Salem Conference, the Bible Students, Jehovah's Witnesses, the Christadelphians, the followers of Herbert Armstrong, and the various Advent Christian churches. (The Millerite movement consisted of 50,000 to 100,000 people in the United States who eagerly expected the soon return of Jesus, and originated around William Miller).

The Seventh-day Adventist Church formed from a small group of Millerite Adventists who kept the Saturday Sabbath, and today forms the most prominent "Adventist" group.

Ellen G. White rejected the immortal soul concept in 1843. Her husband James White, along with Joseph Bates, formerly belonged to the conditionalist Christian Connection, and hinted at this belief in early publications. Together, the three constitute the primary founders of the church.

76 posted on 12/04/2015 8:01:36 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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To: cripplecreek

I was sick the day of the oath-taking ceremony.


77 posted on 12/04/2015 8:04:53 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ("A real conservative will bear the scars...will have been in the trenches fighting."--- Ted Cruz)
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To: Mount Athos

Yep. For the first 1800 years of Christianity no one heard of a “Rapture” as presented in the “Left Behind” novels, etc. They believed in a Second Coming but there was no doctrine that Christ would return multiple times or in stages somehow, sometimes returning secretly or partially. There was no doctrine that the Church was a “parenthesis” or kind of a “Plan B.” There was no doctrine that Christ would return to re-establish the Law, including animal sacrifices in a rebuilt Temple.


78 posted on 12/04/2015 8:08:21 PM PST by Wilhelm Tell (True or False? This is not a tag line.)
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To: dragnet2

79 posted on 12/04/2015 8:59:59 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

neither he nor dear leader are Christians- Christians are people who believe I na resurrected Christ who died for our sins and who is the Son of God-

Carson is also no republican- His despicable views on abortion, gun control, and euthanasia of the elderly are vile and despicable


80 posted on 12/04/2015 9:08:37 PM PST by Bob434
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