Posted on 11/30/2015 10:13:28 AM PST by Sean_Anthony
I fear the media will never get it right about supplements.
Why is it impossible for investigative media reporters to get it right about health supplements? In March of 2013 medical research showed that every day 290 North Americans die from prescription drugs. To kill the same number of people a jumbo jet plane would have to crash every day. I asked Health Canada’s forensic bureaucrats to explain where the dead bodies are who took natural supplements? I have never had a reply.
Now the media are using a study conducted by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the U.S Food and Drug Administration to damn supplements. Its study of 63 hospitals over a 10 year period showed 3,667 emergency room (ER) visits and 2,154 hospitalizations from the use of supplements. But there are no dead bodies.
So what are the statistics for prescription drugs and over-the-counter (OTC) medication? They show 4 million ER visits and, in addition, adverse drug reactions that cause over 100,000 deaths year after year!
Of course. So? Aspirin kills a lot more people than vitamin D.
Ah, I see, so you’re a full-fledged crackpot. Explains a lot.
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If you mean I reject the drug and death cycle, you’ve got it.
“You continue to mislead and side-track, and probably think you’re clever.”
Mislead? I simply took the opportunity, of which you provide an endless supply, to play whack-a-mole on yet another stupid comment.
You’re the clown who said that acetaminophen is derived from aspirin, which it most certainly is not. I’m sure that you actually believed it since facts are optional in the kook-land you inhabit and make-believe is your currency of choice.
A 5th grader spending three minutes on the internet could find the flaws in the nonsense that you post but fortunately for my entertainment you don’t have one as a research assistant. So rack ‘em up again, e-s, I’m ready for another break.
“Esteemed career? I don’t see a single legitimate medical institution on the list!”
Boogie, the esteemed Nemenah Tribe take great exception to you denigrating their Medicine Man school of, well, medicine and drugs and stuff.
Or they would if they were actually a real American Indian tribe which they’re not. They are a bunch of white New Age fakes pretending to be Indians so that they can exploit peyote and alternative medicine quackery of the sort that a certain poster here gobbles up like candy.
And then of course there is ‘homotoxicology’, which seeks to save us all from pseudo-toxins. This is always more effective than saving us from real toxins. It was invented, discovered, created out of thin air by Hans Heinrich Reckeweg when he was released from confinement back in 1946. The newly emancipated Reckeweg had a sudden insight while passing a stool and realized that all disease is caused by homotoxins, which no one else had ever discovered before and no one else has discovered since. This hasn’t prevented a successful career in quackery for it’s purveyors, since as the philosopher PT Barnum noted “there’s a sucker born every minute”.
“Natural selection can allow a population to survive if a condition doesn’t kill them until they’ve passed sexual maturity and can produce children and live long enough to get them sexual maturity.”
True, but it’s still a condition that impacts the fitness of the population, so a population who didn’t have the mutation would have outcompeted us for resources and become dominant, rather than the other way around. That is, unless the detriment is easily overcome by changing your diet or something like that.
I just don’t find it plausible at all that such a detrimental mutation would become universal, unless there is some other, even greater benefit that the mutation provides us, or the detriment is easily negated. You assert that it’s basically impossible to negate the detriment for most of human history, so unless there is some great benefit to the mutation, that assertion doesn’t seem sensible.
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>> “They are a bunch of white New Age fakes pretending to be Indians so that they can exploit peyote and alternative medicine quackery of the sort that a certain poster here gobbles up like candy.” <<
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That statement sums up your non-existent honor nicely.
Truth would gag you were it to flow from your lips. Preparation H will sooth your sore throats well.
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So which part do you object to?
The fact that the Nemenah Tribe is a fake tribe? The Bureau of Indian Affairs has been around since 1806 and somehow never ran across this tribe of suburbanite New Age peyote gobblers.
Or that you are you upset that I noticed your affinity for medical quackery of the sort that the fake Indian tribe deals in?
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>> “this tribe of suburbanite New Age peyote gobblers.” <<
A complete falsehood, but in total keeping with your (lack of) character.
In short, You are a real piece of work! (boring, isn’t it!)
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“A complete falsehood, but in total keeping with your (lack of) character.”
Okay. I admit it. The Nemenah Tribe has a long and distinguished history dating back to 2002 when it’s first Chief got out of prison and invented it. And for $250 you too can join it, assuming that you aren’t already a member.
http://www.culteducation.com/group/1289-general-information/7872-nemenhah-leader-defends-group.html
STOCKTON, Missouri - Phillip “Cloudpiler” Landis was raised Mormon in western Washington and didn’t think too much about what he considers his American Indian heritage until he went to prison.
“What better place to have to sit and reflect upon what motivates you,” he says.
Landis now leads the Nemenhah Band, an Internet-base group recently thrown into the spotlight when one of its far-flung members fled with her cancer-stricken son to avoid chemotherapy.
Landis, 47, has never met Colleen Hauser or 13-year-old Daniel, and urges them to return home. But he supports the Hausers’ decision to defy the recommendations of doctors, who “may be the high priests of the medical religion, but who are spiritually bankrupt.”
The attention garnered for Landis has some in the field of alternative and complementary medicine concerned. American Indian groups also have expressed misgivings about Landis.
“A lot of people are attaching themselves to the alternative medicine field,” said Lorenzo Cohen, director of the Integrative Medicine Program at the MD Anderson Cancer Center in Houston. “It does give quote-unquote alternative medicine a bad name.”
Cohen said most people seeking alternative therapies usually use them in combination with conventional therapies, like chemotherapy, and that the Hauser case “was particularly tragic” because Daniel has a “very curable pediatric cancer.”
Steven Moore, senior attorney for the Native American Rights Fund in Boulder, Colo., was critical of Landis and his group.
“There are a lot of sham artists around like these guys, and they ultimately disrespect Indian people and Indian nations and Indian organizations like the Native American Church,” Moore said.
Landis said his group is a healing-based religion open to people from “all walks of life, and all tribes, nations, kindreds and tongues ... who set their foot on the healing path.”
Colleen Hauser joined the Nemenhah a few months ago, presumably paying the $250 suggested fee as her son dealt with cancer, which is “not inconsistent with how a lot of our members join,” Landis said.
“They’re thrown into a medical situation, the medical hierarchy hasn’t too many real answers for them, and they begin to search.”
On its Web site, the group suggests paying the initial fee, then $100 a year, plus “regular, monthly offerings.” The Web site does not appear to espouse any particular type of alternative therapy.
Its rituals include sweat lodges, sacred breaths and baptism, Landis said, but he does not advocate the use of peyote, something that is used by the Native American Church of North America. He said the Nemenhah Band is an affiliate of another group called the Native American Church, and Moore said that Landis does not have “any affiliation with a legitimate, valid, Native American Church chapter or organization anywhere in the United States.”
The Nemenhah Band came together about 10 years ago in central Utah by a group of women who felt they had a calling, Landis said. He was elected “principle medicine chief” in part because of his claim to be related to Chief Joseph of the Nez Perce, he said.
But Julie Kane, managing attorney for the Nez Perce in Idaho, said Landis is not Nez Perce and the tribe asked him to stop using references to the Nez Perce a few years ago.
“He is not at all Nez Perce. He is not even a descendant,” Kane said.
Colleen Hauser left Minnesota on Monday with Daniel, who has Hodgkins’ lymphoma, a highly curable cancer when treated with chemotherapy and radiation. The Hausers preferred alternative remedies, and Daniel and his mother fled a day before a court hearing that could have resulted in a judge ordering chemotherapy.
The Hausers, who are not American Indian, were seen in Southern California on Tuesday, and were thought to be in Mexico. Authorities said Friday that Interpol had joined in the search.
While Hauser leads authorities on an international search, Landis has been left answering questions about the Nemenhah.
“We can support her desire to seek alternative medicine,” he said. “But we cannot support her committing a felony.”
He speaks freely about his past and his decision to move from Utah last year to southern Missouri when his probation ended after serving several months in prison on fraud charges.
“Trees brought us here,” he said, throwing his arms open wide. “We are not a desert family.”
Landis, his wife and four children started in Weaubleau, population about 500. The family has since moved about 30 miles away to land north of Stockton, a southwest Missouri town of about 2,000 where Landis says he is building a “lodge” for his family and for the Nemenhah Band, which he claims has about 4,000 members. He doesn’t say where that land is exactly, and meets reporters at picnic tables in a park in the center of Stockton.
He said western medicine has its place, telling about a time when his daughter knelt on a nail that went under her kneecap. The nail came out, Landis said, but there was no way to see what, if any, damage had been done. Landis did what many parents would do: He took his child to the hospital and had her knee X-rayed. Also, she had a tetanus shot.
“Our main tenet is: `First, do no harm,’ not, `First do nothing,”’ he said.
Landis said he lost faith in most traditional medicine after a bout with bubonic plague, a broken back and cancer, which he said disappeared thanks to a tea-like concoction made from a mushroom. He still drinks the mushroom tea daily, he said, 15 years after his diagnosis.
He refers to Daniel Hauser as a youth minister and says he wants the Hausers to return.
“The fear was so great that she broke,” Landis said of Colleen Hauser. “But it pales in comparison to what she and her family will go through if she goes to jail. I’ve been there; I know what she’d go through.”
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Did you bother to read what you posted?
These are people of mostly high moral character, that had the guts to save their children from medical murder.
I repeat, you are a real piece of work.
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P.S. Reishi is not even faintly related to peyote, and it is a true healing substance.
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Seems like it’s a perfectly accurate statement:
“Based in Stockton, Missouri, the band claims to be a Native American tribe with about 7,000 members, but is not recognized as a tribe by the federal government. Its “Elected Principle Medicine Chief,” Philip Cloudpilar Landis, claims to be a descendant of a woman who was ritually adopted by Nez Perce Chief Joseph. The Nez Perce say his claim is fraudulent.
Chief Cloudpilar has been convicted of grand theft and theft by deceptive practices in two states for his marketing of “alternative medicine.” Raised a Mormon, he discovered his Native American heritage while serving prison time. After his release he formed the Nemenhah Band. Its motto is “Our religion is our medicine.â€
Cloudpilar charges $250 for a person to be spiritually adopted into his band plus $100 a year membership fee. His webpage has many natural remedies and craft items for sale, which are described as “sacraments.””
http://childrenshealthcare.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/2010-02-fnl.pdf
I’ll put it less gently. It’s a tribe of quacks selling quack remedies to gullible suckers.
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I hold your opinion in appropriate regard, in the rear sewer clean-out.
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This is not in any way about Chief Cloudpilar.
Its about your apparent belief that it is OK for government thugs to order parents to offer up their children to the priests of Medical Murder.
The practice of oncology is regulated slow painful death to increase the wealth of its practitioners and the pharmaceutical poison manufacturers.
Natural practice extends life and produces cures.
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“Did you bother to read what you posted?”
Yeah I do. Moreover I understand what I read and post. You should try it sometime and perhaps you’d be less enamored of crooks and frauds. But then considering your record, maybe not.
“This is not in any way about Chief Cloudpilar.”
Certainly it is, when the guy you cite as a medical authority bought a fake membership in his fake indian tribe that gives fake medical advice. Kind of reveals a lot about your own lack of skepticism and liability to be taken in by obvious hucksters.
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Nobody bought anything fake.
Joining the group is a social act to show respect for people he was working among.
He teaches the way to real healing, which almost everyone needs. The medical establishment has no path to healing; they only maintain sources of income (cash cows). Scott-Mumby teaches self healing, which is the only true path to healing any disease.
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The only times I have gone to those crooks and frauds (Doctors) is when I have been required to do so to gain access to a “biologically hazardous” site for engineering purposes.
The requirement for a physical exam is truly a criminal racket.
It always frustrates the quacks when I answer that I have no medical records because I don’t do doctors, and they find that I am perfectly healthy and do not ever fall victim to “communicable” diseases.
This is, of course, how it is meant to be.
It cannot be achieved by going to “Doctors.”
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