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Detroit Public Schools Bankruptcy Could Cost the State $3.4 Billion
Michigan Capitol Confidential ^ | 11/21/2015 | Tom Gantert

Posted on 11/23/2015 10:37:33 AM PST by MichCapCon

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1 posted on 11/23/2015 10:37:33 AM PST by MichCapCon
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To: MichCapCon

And people are worked up over Trump’s “bankruptcies”...

Keep voting for Democrats, you idiots!!!


2 posted on 11/23/2015 10:39:24 AM PST by ObozoMustGo2012
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To: MichCapCon

Reparations are expensive.


3 posted on 11/23/2015 10:41:44 AM PST by Jacquerie ( To shun Article V is to embrace tyranny.)
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To: MichCapCon

Hmmm, I came up with 4.2 billion from newspaper articles, I wasn’t far off. Far worse than they were telling us. I wonder if the Detwaa bankruptcy could have happened if this was not carved out....


4 posted on 11/23/2015 10:43:31 AM PST by taildragger (Not my Monkey, not my Circus...)
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5 posted on 11/23/2015 10:44:38 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: MichCapCon
Could this problem be somehow related to mismanagement of the pension itself? When you have people putting money into a system for the better part of 30 years, it should throw of enough money for the pensioner had it not been tapped into along the way.

Might explain how Hillary "misplaced" 6 billion when she was Sec of State.

It would also explain the Social Security "lockbox" demise.

6 posted on 11/23/2015 10:44:52 AM PST by Slyfox (Will no one rid us of this meddlesome president?)
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To: MichCapCon

Why doesn’t Soros offer to help?


7 posted on 11/23/2015 10:48:51 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (With Trump & Cruz, America can't lose!)
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To: MichCapCon
Politician: Vote for me and I'll increase your pension benfits.

Union member: I'll do that only if the police and firemen get premium pensions.

Politician: But of course.

Every few years, same conversation, same results. An ever-upward escalation of pension benefits at the expense of the taxpayers.

8 posted on 11/23/2015 10:51:28 AM PST by Zuben Elgenubi (NOPe to GOPe)
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To: Slyfox

I don’t know the particulars of this pension, but most public pensions are based on the rosiest of projections and pay out much more than a comparable private plan. Usually retirement prior to 60 years old, and a large payout every month. Its not uncommon for somebody who worked for 25 years to get 20 years of pension - which is nearly impossible to make work.


9 posted on 11/23/2015 10:54:00 AM PST by lacrew
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To: Cowboy Bob
Why has the State pension fund allowed one entity, DPS, to run up a $1.3 billion deficit in contributions. They should be suspended from the fund as an organization, and perhaps have their pensions segregated from the rest of the fund.

State Pension Fund managers are at fault here, for allowing this situation to grow to endanger the pensions of other, better managed districts.

Even one city like Detroit is a cancer that can crush an entire state.

10 posted on 11/23/2015 10:54:11 AM PST by Jack Black ( "Disarmament of a targeted group is one of the surest early warning signs of future genocide")
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To: Zuben Elgenubi

Getting teachers and tutors who speak 90 different languages is expensive


11 posted on 11/23/2015 10:54:55 AM PST by ground_fog
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To: lacrew

You are probably right, but I can’t help but think that somebody did some “borrowing” along the way.


12 posted on 11/23/2015 10:56:05 AM PST by Slyfox (Will no one rid us of this meddlesome president?)
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To: Slyfox
"Could this problem be somehow related to mismanagement of the pension itself?"

There were some great in-depth reporting on the mismanagement of the pension from the 2 Detroit Newspapers when that story was gaining steam. Tales of cronies being made Pension Managers with no financial background loosing 1.5 billion comes to mind. I don't know if the Teachers Pension did this, but any year the Pension did well via the markets, the pension recipients got a bonus kind of like the "Big 3". But what they were doing was dipping into seed corn for the future by the disbursement of this equity / asset. Even Mayor Dennis Archer tried to get to stop this in the early to mid 90's and the dysfunctional City Council said Nyet..

I hope Cripplecreek can confirm what I have posted here and that I got the info correct...

13 posted on 11/23/2015 10:59:34 AM PST by taildragger (Not my Monkey, not my Circus...)
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Easy fix...tap into the Detroit money tree project...

Unicorns watch over the groves of trees and fertilize them with unicorn poop that looks like skittles...

I hear it’s a bumper crop this election year...


14 posted on 11/23/2015 11:00:39 AM PST by Popman (Christ alone: My Cornerstone...)
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To: taildragger

Thanks for helping with my hunch.


15 posted on 11/23/2015 11:02:03 AM PST by Slyfox (Will no one rid us of this meddlesome president?)
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To: Slyfox

No doubt borrowing happens. If a private company did this with 401k match money, its a crime...but if a municipality does it, its considered good fiscal policy.

Ever noticed that whenever we have a faux fight over raising the debt limit, it is preceded by weeks of no increase in national debt, punctuated by a huge jump in debt immediately after the limit is raised. Among other things, the money changers in Washington are borrowing from federal employee pension funds to keep the government open...so they can essentially ‘schedule’ the debt limit fight for the optimal time.


16 posted on 11/23/2015 11:04:24 AM PST by lacrew
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To: MichCapCon

Detroit and its finances are a source of “Reparations.”


17 posted on 11/23/2015 11:12:39 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS
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To: MichCapCon

Democrats are all about sustainability. /s


18 posted on 11/23/2015 11:24:06 AM PST by Trillian
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They should sue the Democrat Party. They have loads of money.


19 posted on 11/23/2015 11:32:36 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: All

Wanna solve the majority of the world’s problems? Easy: Stop paying people to breed and vote....


20 posted on 11/23/2015 11:46:46 AM PST by Maverick68
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