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Dan Rather claims that his Fraudulent Story on George Bush was "True" on the Today Show
Gun Watch ^ | 15 October, 2015 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 10/14/2015 8:47:31 AM PDT by marktwain



Matt Lauer pushes a rewrite of history with the movie "Truth".  On the Today Show, at about 08:44 central time, Lauer gave discredited Dan Rather the opportunity to rewrite history.   Lauer shamelessly promots the movie based on the book written by Mary Mapes, who uncritically accepted the fraud that advanced the narrative she was promoting.

Rather made the outrageous claim that the story that he promoted to stop President George Bush's re-election bid was "true".   It echoes his response at the time that the fraudulent documents that he used in his attempt to discredit President "Dubya" Bush were "Fake, but accurate".

This is eerily reminiscent of George Orwell's novel "1984".  If you control the past, you control the future.  With the making of the movie, "Truth", based on the book, written by Mary Mapes, an attempt is made to re-write history and portray the fraudulent manipulation of the public as "Truth".  It is not surprising that Mapes and Rather are portrayed as innocent "victims".   

I was a member of one of the online communities whose hard work and dedication showed incontrovertibly that the documents Rather's story was based on were a crude fraud.

The timing made clear that they were intended to influence the elections and elect the Democrat, John Kerry, through the mechanism of the fraud.  Dan Rather may not have known of the fraud, at the time, but his response shows that he did not care about the truth.  It shows that he was careful to have "plausible deny-ability". He wanted Bush out of the White House, and a Democrat in.  That was far more important than the truth.  Here is an excerpt from a review of Mapes book that details the evidence she wishes to sweep under the rug:

I have been through chapter one of Marry Mapes' book; I also have been through the Thornburgh-Boccardi report. There are so many misrepresntations of fact in Chapter One, I will not waste my time with the rest of the book.

Free Republic web logger "Buckhead" is not the only person with decades of computer publishing experience who spotted the CBS memos as not 1970s typewritten documents. Mapes sets "Freeper blogger Buckhead" up as a demonized strawman to distract attention away from the documents themselves.

I worked at Kingsport Press for thirty-four years in computer assisted typesetting, starting with IBM 1130 punching paper tape to drive Linotype linecasters, through the VideoComp and Linotron typesetters, ending with various Mac and Win PCs producing PostScript.

When I followed Joseph Newcomer's demonstration on the Web that the CBS memos were typeset recently and were not typewritten in the 1970s, it was like Composition 101. I followed along with PDFs of the four CBS memos downloaded from their website. Plus a PDF of an authenticated Lt Col Killian memo promoting Lt Bush in Nov 1970. Plus my experience typesetting hundreds of books and quarterly journals, and creating dozens of fonts for the VideoComp, Linotron, and Postscript typesetters.

The fact that another typesetter "Buckhead" found the same flaws confirms my observations.
The reviewer goes to considerable length to show the fraud in just the first chapter of Mapes book. 

Truth was depicted as what Dan Rather wanted it to be, not reality.  The fact of the fraud is readily available to anyone who looks; the problem is that many gullible people will be taken in by the outrageous propaganda.

This movie is an example of the problem that this country faces.  When people whose major concern is their lust for power control the media and the most powerful instruments in popular culture, the public is constantly bombarded with the lies and false assumptions about reality.

Support for the Second Amendment is one bright spot where truth is gradually triumphing over lies, as the civilization of the United States is fractured and destroyed by the never ending onslaught of fraud promoted by the left.

For 20 years, the race has been:  Will the old media self implode before the Republic is destroyed?

After 7 years of the first Affirmative Action President, elected by massive support from the media, the outcome is still in doubt.

©2015 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice and link are included.     Link to Gun Watch


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: coup; danrather; democrats; fakebutaccurate; fraud; mapes; movietruth; rather; rathergate; tankerkc; truth
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To: 1Old Pro

WHY ARE WE STILL TALKING ABOUT THIS? Audacity, Pres, Mooch, Dan......

After the soft debate I pray Hillary does not become presdient. It really seems like the book 1984.

Hey my niece and newphew read the book in HS like I did, they are still ultra brain washed.

What book did they read?


21 posted on 10/14/2015 9:14:36 AM PDT by Uversabound (Our Military past and present: Our Highest example of Brotherhood of Man & Doing God's Will)
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To: Moonman62

Ah, but the documents, that’s, that’s where I had them, they laughed at me and made jokes, but I proved beyond the shadow of a doubt, and with geometric logic, that proportional font typewriters did exist, and I’ve had produced that typewriter if they hadn’t pulled me out of action. I, I know now they were only trying to protect some fellow Freeper. … Naturally, I can only cover these things from memory.


22 posted on 10/14/2015 9:17:27 AM PDT by Flick Lives (One should not attend even the end of the world without a good breakfast. -- Heinlein)
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To: Diogenesis
What killed me about the memo story, CBS was humilitaed by almost biblical proportions as a journalistic laughingstock. Fraudulent memos were foisted upon the network, and when they were presented with irrefutable evidence of this, what did they do? They dug in. The story that they ran with was of only marginal importance - what a sitting president did or not do thirty-some years earlier. But another story, a juicier story, was there for the taking. Someone had forged government documents in order to impugn a sitting president seeking re-election. Where did that lead? Maybe to the Kerry campaign, who knows? Talk about your dirty tricks. CBS couldn't care less about that story.
23 posted on 10/14/2015 9:18:25 AM PDT by fhayek
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To: fhayek

24 posted on 10/14/2015 9:22:20 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("When a crime is unpunished, the world is unbalanced.")
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To: Diogenesis

Oh, the irony.

The only problem: they didn’t do a very good job of “rewriting history” otherwise they wouldn’t have gotten caught.


25 posted on 10/14/2015 9:24:49 AM PDT by dhs12345
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To: marktwain
From the text:

This is eerily reminiscent of George Orwell's novel "1984".

Dan Rather represents a mind set that prevails within the mass media. I include Canada in this.

In 1963, the news of the tragic and mindless assassination of President Kennedy was broadcast. Rather proclaimed that such was the hate in Dallas Texas, even grade schoolers were culpable of this kind of hate.

He said when the news of the JFK death was announced in a local school, the kids cheered this. The local news boss, a Mr. Barker forbade the news Johnnies to run with it, until further clarification. They broadcast Rather's statement anyway. Barker stormed into the news room and castigated them.

What actually happened was that a school principle, wise man that he was, decided on this course. This when the sad news was known. He came in to the assemble kids and said we are closing down the school today for a special reason. You can all go home early. The kids cheered.

Even as late as 2011 on a talk show with one Ed Shultz, a liberal lefty repeated the Rather statement. The subject was "hate".

26 posted on 10/14/2015 9:28:16 AM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: marktwain
Dan Rather claims that his Fraudulent Story on George Bush was "True" on the Today Show

Sorry guys..Rather is right..here is the actual memo..

I just hope Dan can forgive FR.../s

27 posted on 10/14/2015 9:29:29 AM PDT by BerniesFriend (I am BerniesFriend, however it's really Bernadette, NOT Bernie Sanders friend!!!!!!!)
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To: marktwain

well I suppose he can’t go on TV and admit it was all made-up BS now, can he?


28 posted on 10/14/2015 9:38:03 AM PDT by bigbob
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To: marktwain

How could Dan Rather know that it is true? He had no hand in finding it nor did he authenticate it. He took someone else’s word for it.


29 posted on 10/14/2015 9:38:11 AM PDT by arthurus (Het is waar. Tutti i liberali sono feccia.)
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To: arthurus

“How could Dan Rather know that it is true? He had no hand in finding it nor did he authenticate it. He took someone else’s word for it.”

He knows it is true because it furthers the agenda of the left.

That is his definition of the “truth”.


30 posted on 10/14/2015 10:40:09 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: fhayek

“Where did that lead? Maybe to the Kerry campaign, who knows?”

I think the moment they got the fake memos and made up story was right when they dumped Howard Dean (calling his war whoop a “demented scream”) and Kerry started getting all the attention. I’m guessing that they though they had a secret weapon.


31 posted on 10/14/2015 10:40:56 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Oldexpat
How can they report this with a straight face!

By titling the movie "Truth."

32 posted on 10/14/2015 11:09:36 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: DBrow
You may be right, but they way I recollect it was that these memos were designed to negate the damage that the Swift Boat Vet store was causing Kerry. 'All right, both candidates are flawed when it comes to their military record, call it a draw'. That was the goal anyway.
33 posted on 10/14/2015 11:15:33 AM PDT by fhayek
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To: marktwain
Below, my red 2003 Word memo over the black "1973" memo--proving forgery when Rather hyped it in 2004.

George Orwell in Prevention of Literature, 1946, addressed Ratherite revisionism which inspired 1984:

A totalitarian state is in effect a theocracy, and its ruling caste, in order to keep its position, has to be thought of as infallible. But since, in practice, no one is infallible, it is frequently necessary to rearrange past events in order to show that this or that mistake was not made, or that this or that imaginary triumph actually happened.


34 posted on 10/14/2015 11:26:08 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Fakistan)
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To: fhayek

iirc it was after the fall of Dean that JFK started his focus on his Nam service, which would dovetail with the fake memo story.


35 posted on 10/14/2015 11:31:33 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: marktwain
Re my post #26.

Trying to be fair. I did some research on that day in Dallas when JFK was shot by Oswald. It seems that a Methodist minister who was a liberal and Kennedy supporter was with Rather in the studio. He made a statement about the kids cheering when they heard JFK was shot. Rather had already been appraised of the dubiousness of this, by a Mr. Barker the media owner. Rather was with the minister and they ran with the story.

Two sources claim Rather also made the statement. Pretty hard to confirm whether he did or not. He was party to it however.

36 posted on 10/14/2015 12:50:05 PM PDT by Peter Libra
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To: SolidRedState
and why not use the correct fonts in Truth
37 posted on 10/15/2015 7:27:58 AM PDT by The Raven
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To: marktwain

Dan Rathernot doesn’t understand that manufacturing fraudulent docs to back up a story, even if the story is true taints that story. But his hatred for the Bush family blinds him to reality.


38 posted on 10/18/2015 3:44:48 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Congress will have blood on their hands if anything happens because of the Iran appeasement)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

The birth certificate?


39 posted on 10/18/2015 3:51:53 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Congress will have blood on their hands if anything happens because of the Iran appeasement)
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To: BigEdLB

and more


40 posted on 10/18/2015 6:00:53 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda—Divide and conquer seems to be working.)
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