3 things you need to know about the latest Oregon killings

sgberman.com ^ | 10/2/15 | Steve Berman

[lifeofgrace]

You need to know three things about the Oregon killings, the latest senseless act of hate directed at Christians in America.

The father of shooting victim Anastasia Boylan, who was shot in the back and survived, said this after talking to his daughter before her surgery about Christopher Harper Mercer’s killing spree at a Rosewood, Oregon community college.

I don’t know how much time elapsed before he was able to stand there and start asking people one by one what their religion was.

‘Are you a Christian?’ he asked them.

And if you’re a Christian stand up, and he said ‘Good. Because you’re a Christian, you’re gonna see God in just about one second.’

And he shot and killed them.

Note two things.

First: the father was wearing a “CFL” t-shirt.  “CFL” in that particular logo style means “Christ for Life.”  I know this because I have a sweatshirt with the same logo.

Second:  Portland, Oregon is by far the least religious city in America.  Roseville is a mere hour drive south on I-5 from Oregon.

And a third thing.  The Bible offers an answer, for all who seek the truth about senseless killings.

What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? He who did not spare His own Son, but delivered Him up for us all, how shall He not with Him also freely give us all things? Who shall bring a charge against God’s elect? It is God who justifies. Who is he who condemns? It is Christ who died, and furthermore is also risen, who is even at the right hand of God, who also makes intercession for us. Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? As it is written:

“For Your sake we are killed all day long;

We are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.”

Yet in all these things we are more than conquerors through Him who loved us. For I am persuaded that neither death nor life, nor angels nor principalities nor powers, nor things present nor things to come, nor height nor depth, nor any other created thing, shall be able to separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

(Romans 8:31-39)

[WVNan]

I’m thinking that if all the class rushed at the same time it would confuse the shooter and make him reflex and spoil his aim. Classes might want to get together at the beginning of each semester and pre-plan.

[Bigg Red]

+1

[Dilbert San Diego]

You have a good idea. Even though he has the gun, he was outnumbered. If a group of people were able to act in unison, they could overwhelm an armed gunman.

If the alternative is certain death as he shoots everyone one by one, the outcome couldn’t be any worse if everyone were trained to rush the gunman.

[Mercat]

I didn’t see that the article and I don’t see that the Christian faith tells you not to defend yourself. The man who walked towards the shooter and was shot 5-7 times was literally laying down his life for others. That’s the core Christian belief. But the question is, if I had been there, would I have professed my faith knowing that I would be shot?

[Twinkie]

Well. Christ told his disciples to “sell their cloak & buy a
sword”. Yeshua (Christ) was NOT a wimp. The Roman soldiers
didn’t kill Him until he was READY & knew the time was right. - He had already walked right through them when they
were after him.

[driftless2]

Look at most classrooms. Many times there's only one door. Students are trapped. If there's only one shooter, unless he's got an automatic weapon (and most recent killers have only been armed with handguns), then he is susceptible to being rushed and taken.

Some students throw objects at him, and some rush. If four or five male students charge the shooter using their desks for shields, one or two should be able to get to him.

What is the other choice? Sit there and wait to be shot. Obviously, when bullets start flying, if there is no plan, many people are going to be killed. Even if things are planned, it's risky. But I'd rather rush than sit there and take a bullet.

[ifinnegan]

You lost all ready, dude.

[caprock]

I agree with your will (and RIGHT) to fight. But, before you close your assessment of true Christianity, remember that our Christian Founding Fathers fought a Revolutionary War.

[Oatka]

IF THERE IS NO EXIT,

[trisham]

Amen to that.

[trisham]

Do you mind if I steal that?

[Oatka]

OK, I stole it from FR I think.

[trisham]

LOL! Thanks. :)