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A Voice in Waco
The Aging Rebel ^ | 9/22/2015 | Don Charles Davis

Posted on 09/22/2015 8:49:25 AM PDT by Robert Teesdale

A member of the Desgraciados Motorcycle Club named George Bergman appeared at an examining trial last Friday in Waco. Bergman had just arrived at the Twin Peaks restaurant last May 17 and was walking to the Don Carlos restaurant on the other side of the parking lot to use the bathroom there when he heard a gun shot.

He was detained, found to be in possession of two, small, legal knives incarcerated for hours and finally arrested. He spent 20 days in jail before being released on $80,000 bail. He lost his job and continues to suffer from injuries suffered during his incarceration. Last Friday he asked that the charges against him be dismissed because there was no probable cause to believe that he was guilty of participating in organized criminal activity.

A judge named James E. Morgan refused to dismiss the charges so Bergman’s nightmare will continue. But before he left the court he read the following statement into the record.

(snip)

"I then saw one police officer in front of me just shooting wildly toward the crowd at Twin Peaks with a rifle..."



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To: Smokin' Joe

“Right down to where .308 falls. (medium).”

Interesting. The ‘small’ goes up to .25. The ‘medium’ goes down to .32!

One of the Waco bullets was classified as medium/large. I wonder if .30 would be small/medium?

Just a point to ponder but of no significance since their were no .308’s fired at Twin Peaks.


141 posted on 10/02/2015 5:26:16 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

A .300 Blackout round would also have a .308 projectile, as would a 7.62 X 25. I’ll wait for the ballistics report before I eliminate anything, thanks.


142 posted on 10/02/2015 7:06:23 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: TexasGator
their were no .308’s fired at Twin Peaks.

One must remember that there are tolerances involved.

For example, the SAAMI specs for the 32 ACP show a bullet diameter spread from .3065 to .3125.
Therefore a 32 ACP could have fired a .308 bullet.
143 posted on 10/02/2015 7:08:20 PM PDT by Elderberry
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To: Elderberry
"Therefore a 32 ACP could have fired a .308 bullet."

I don't think a .308 round would chamber in a .32 ACP.


144 posted on 10/02/2015 7:18:42 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

You do understand that .308 is only a Diameter.

Now .308 Winchester and 7.62 X 51 MM are cartridges.


145 posted on 10/02/2015 7:21:48 PM PDT by Elderberry
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To: TexasGator

And yes, a 32ACP can easily fire a .308 inch diameter bullet.

Only an idiot would attempt to chamber a .308 Winchester round into a 32 ACP pistol.


146 posted on 10/02/2015 7:24:49 PM PDT by Elderberry
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To: Elderberry

“You do understand that .308 is only a Diameter.”

Oh. So when someone says they have a .45 or .357 we don’t really know what he is shooting ...

What about a 410?

Or a .50!


147 posted on 10/02/2015 7:24:50 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator

.50? M2 Browning MG?


148 posted on 10/02/2015 7:29:49 PM PDT by Elderberry
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To: TexasGator

357 Herret?

45ACP?

45Long Colt?

Shall I go on?


149 posted on 10/02/2015 7:31:14 PM PDT by Elderberry
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To: Elderberry

“You do understand that .308 is only a Diameter.”

No! .308 is just a NUMBER. And most commonly refers to the .308 Winchester.

If you are specifying diameter you should say:

.308” DIAMETER bullet.


150 posted on 10/02/2015 8:19:26 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: TexasGator; Smokin' Joe; mac_truck

The discussion was of the Medical Examiner’s identification of the caliber of the bullets as small, medium and large.

In that context .308 would be caliber(bullet diameter) not which cartridge the bullet was fired from.

How would the ME know that anyway.


151 posted on 10/03/2015 5:57:44 AM PDT by Elderberry
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