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Why Did Oil Prices Just Jump By 27 Percent In 3 Days?
Oilprice.com ^ | 02-09-2015 | volatile

Posted on 09/02/2015 9:28:45 AM PDT by bananaman22

Oil prices have posted their strongest rally in years, jumping an astounding 27 percent in the last three trading days of August.

While much of the recent price movement defies reason and is enormously magnified by speculative movements by traders to take and cover their bets on oil, still, there were a series of rumors, events, and fresh data that helped contribute to the spike.

For example, on August 31, the oil markets woke up to the news that Russian President Vladimir Putin will meet his counterpart from Venezuela to discuss “possible mutual steps” to stabilize oil prices. The meeting will take place in China on September 3. Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro has already called for an emergency meeting of OPEC, a call that has fallen on deaf ears, at least in the most important country of Saudi Arabia.

It is still highly unlikely, but the one country that might be able to change the minds of Saudi oil officials is Russia. Again, even if Russia promised to cut back oil production to boost prices (which it has not shown a willingness to do), Saudi Arabia has little trust in Moscow to follow through on those promises. Similar understandings to cooperate in the past have fallen apart, making coordinated action unlikely.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
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1 posted on 09/02/2015 9:28:45 AM PDT by bananaman22
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To: bananaman22

Why? To prove they don’t need no steekin’ supply and demand?


2 posted on 09/02/2015 9:34:43 AM PDT by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: bananaman22

Price of WTI is already back down below $44 from a high over $49 a couple days ago.


3 posted on 09/02/2015 9:35:28 AM PDT by Redbob (Keep your hands off my great-great-grandfather's flag)
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To: Redbob

Yeah, you and your stinkin’ facts have ruined another perfectly good conspiracy thread.


4 posted on 09/02/2015 9:40:42 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: bananaman22

Maybe people are just closing positions and they needed to buy back a lot of contracts?


5 posted on 09/02/2015 9:40:45 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (With Trump & Cruz, America can't lose!)
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To: Cowboy Bob
Not really, Bob. Reports started circulating Friday that production worldwide was dropping. The big specs glommed onto this and bid up crude $4-5-6 dollars. Then, reality set in; w/w production of the major players is actually UP, year over year. Then, today's API was pretty negative for prices, too. Last quote on October WTI crude is 44.62/bbl, down 79 cents. Been as low as 43.21 today.

We had about a day and a half of short covering, hence the spike up, but current supply/demand can't support $48 crude just now.

Also, it's almost always a good idea, in crude, to fade the current conspiracy theory (tip, just FYI)

Good trading to you!

6 posted on 09/02/2015 10:08:54 AM PDT by SAJ
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To: bananaman22

Labor Day Weekend....last holiday for people to get out of town....do it every year....


7 posted on 09/02/2015 10:19:51 AM PDT by HarleyLady27 ("It's the hard working, tax paying citizens of the United States that are suffering...")
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To: bananaman22

This is cool. I think I would like to start fooling around with oil futures and suchlike. Im a pretty smart feller they say.


8 posted on 09/02/2015 10:33:28 AM PDT by olepap (Your old Pappy)
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To: bananaman22
Ah, yes, that's what we need: Russia, Saudi Arabia, and Venezuela conspiring to fix the price of oil.

We should establish a price floor for oil, at a level high enough to make fracking and biofuels (and eventually other) alternatives competitive. If the price of oil falls below that level, impose an excise tax.

I am a no-new-taxes person, but on a net basis. I don't mind rearranging taxes to fit important policy objectives. Taking pricing power away from the world's bad actors is an important policy objective.

So let's have a flexible oil excise tax, and rebate the net amount. We would have a lovely fight over the rebate formula, but in the meantime we would liberate ourselves from blackmail by the bad guys.

The Saudis have a long history of dumping oil to shut down serious competitors, and then cutting production and raising prices again when the coast is clear. No more.

9 posted on 09/02/2015 10:37:35 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: bananaman22
Maybe commodities traders in the know are hearing of a deal to cut production?
10 posted on 09/02/2015 10:44:33 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: sphinx

Lol. If you want to pay more for oil why don’t you do it, not impose it on everyone else. What you suggested is at best socislism.


11 posted on 09/02/2015 10:54:49 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
No, what I am suggesting is that we break the oil cartel for good. I am tired of oil dollars financing so much of the mischief in the world, and I am tired of predatory pricing actions by the Saudis sabotaging unconventional oil (and other substitutes) whenever they begin to take off. I would rebate net proceeds to consumers.

Or we can sit and do nothing while the fracking boom peters out and the Saudis regain their pricing power.

But maybe I worry needlessly. The environmentalists will probably shut down fracking anyhow, especially if the dems win in 2016.

12 posted on 09/02/2015 11:12:47 AM PDT by sphinx
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To: nickcarraway

Why is it that gas prices go down but quarts of motor oil don’t appear to do anything but go up?


13 posted on 09/02/2015 11:30:38 AM PDT by Married with Children
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Keep in mind the amazing thing about math. If a stock or commodity falls say 50%; say oil from 60 to 30; it now needs 100% to get back to where it was. So while 27% sounds like a lot, oil has a long way to go. I wouldn’t read anything to daily changes in any stock or commodity, because, sadly for those of us who live on reason, investors act on emotion.


14 posted on 09/02/2015 3:03:46 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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