Posted on 08/30/2015 6:16:56 AM PDT by lbryce
Well, this is something you don’t see every day. According to a new report out of Consumer Reports, the Tesla Model S P85D, all-wheel-drive electric sedan, performed “better in our tests than any other car ever has, earning a perfect road-test score.”
Actually, it did better than that, scoring 103 points in a scoring system that, “by definition,” doesn’t go past 100.
Among the many reasons it scored so remarkably high, says the outlet: its “brutally quick” acceleration (the car soars from 0 to 60 miles per hour in 3.5 seconds); better braking and handling than the standard Model S (which also receives high marks from Consumer Reports); and its stunning energy efficiency. Consumer Reports notes the car gets the equivalent of 87 miles per gallon.
Of course, the car isn’t perfect, says the report. Its 200-plus mile range can be a concern on a long drive if a charging station isn’t nearby. (Consumer Reports clearly hasn’t heard of Bjørn Nyland, a programmer who recently drove 452.8 miles on a single charge in a P85D by cruising at 25 miles per hour.)
It’s also louder than the Model S, less opulent than other luxury vehicles, and too expensive for most of us, with a price tag of $127,820.
Still, Consumer Reports is calling it an “automotive milepost” and a “powerful statement of American startup ingenuity.”
(Excerpt) Read more at techcrunch.com ...
Apparently the people rating that car used to work at the US Bureau of Labor Statistics.
Tesla is a government subsidized turd. It is a nothing in terms of auto sales. It loses money on every car. And every automotive and business outlet in the news media praises it.
On a cold winter night the only heating and defrost functions come from electric heating elements. The range will be greatly restricted.
Other than that, it is a great car.
He grows fat sucking off of the government teat. Not very Reaganesque in my opinion.
Elon Musk built his empire with 4.9 billion of our taxpayer dollars
It surprises me how many people don’t know that Musk is the ultimate gubmint crony.
“with a price tag of $127,820.”
I have a 67 Camaro I’m finishing rebuilding. $7,000 would get it into top of the line Pro Touring shape. That would leave about $120,000 for gas.
I no longer believe a word Consumer Reports says. For the last 20 years they’ve morphed into nothing but yet another “Progressive” mouth-piece, just like Scientific American and all the rest. Pretty much everything Consumer Reports prints is significantly biased.
I don’t even use them for car-buying advice, which has become ridiculously useless.
The latest versions of these books are the best car buying advice out there:
And if I want buying advice on anything else, I go to where the pros go, for example, anything lawn related go to
where you can get full discussions by the pros on pretty nearly everything lawn related, including repair advice.
Consumer Reports’ advice model is obsolete and its time has long passed by, and quite frankly, I can’t understand how they’ve managed to still stay in business. I assume that most of their subscriptions are from people who are slowly dying off and the rest are from the same kind of people who use Angie’s List.
Don’t know him,but in defense of BobL, I have less problem with the existence of PRACTICAL-thinking rich people than dealing with the rich liberal who has all the supposedly “green” car, home, and appliances that are made “affordable “ by government subsidies. The rich liberal wants me to live green though it is beyond my means.The practical rich tend to mind their own business.
Yeah but they guarantee battery performance for 3000 charges.
That at 200 miles per charge is 600,000 miles. How many engines are guaranteed to go that long? I don’t think the cost of battery replacement is a huge deal.
“I have an amplifier that goes to 11.”
BWAHAHAHA that’s was exactly my 1st thought upon taking in the headline.
Anyway for electric cars to really make a difference in society they have to become affordable and adapt the same wireless charging capabilities the newer smart phones have...
...each vehicle has an IP add to help figure out the bill.
As somebody who is more or less indifferent to cars, if I saw that I’d assume it was a Ford or Toyota or whatever and move on. My next vehicle will be a used Tacoma which I was happy to find out had a recall notice and will get a new frame courtesy of Toyota.
Anyway for electric cars to really make a difference in society they have to become affordable and adapt the same wireless charging capabilities the newer smart phones have...
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That’s being tested.
He grows fat sucking off of the government teat. Not very Reaganesque in my opinion.
Elon Musk built his empire with 4.9 billion of our taxpayer dollars
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Can you please be more specific?
I know people who buy electric cars get a rebate.
He has a contract with the government for launch services. That’s not a subsidy. He’s also greatly reduced the cost for launch services.
Local governments competed for his battery factory. They must have seen some value in it, such as jobs and tax revenue. That’s more of a market competition, rather than a subsidy.
I don’t mind bragging about not feeling the need to SHOW OFF all my life...so yes.
Have pity on us mere mortals....
Nigel Tufnel
..these go to eleven...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4xgx4k83zzc
The range does matter. It is going to be 103 degrees today, how far will it go with the air conditioning on? And when I gotta go up to Minnesota for Christmas with relatives how far will it go in the winter time with the heater on? I also like to travel at night and around here they require lights.
Electric cars are for city folk. The most logical now is hybrid and the future car will be fuel cell, leaving the electric cars for California weirdos.
Warranty is for 8 yrs. Also if vehicle is exposed to temp of -22 F for 24 hrs warranty is void, same if over 122 F. Whole higher temp is not likely to be encountered the lower one could.
I found no reference to 3000 charges and in any case it won’t translate into 600,000 miles since vehicle most likely be put on recharge each day after it’s use.
Yep. Government subsidized cars for rich people. Musk and Tesla are not a model for the future of American manufacturing, ingenuity or anything else. He is a model for future scam artists.
Well I happen to love emerging technology and kudos to those who are out there pushing the envelope to make our lives even better. Sure, this Elon Musk might be using government money to devise his new inventions (from electric cars to solar panels to rocket ships) but I say good for him. Much better use of our taxpayer dollars than handing it over to a bunch of sad sacks on welfare who sit on their ratty couches all day watching television and playing Candy Crush on Facebook, don't you think?
If we eliminated our welfare program tomorrow and invested all that money with entrepreneurs, having been vetted by other entrepreneurs in the private sector in Shark Tank fashion, we would supercharge this economy and put everybody back to work in short order.
That's what I say.
Now I'm not ready to buy one of these electric cars yet. But I'm glad we have people like Elon Musk working out the kinks and making the necessary improvements. I'm pretty sure that before my life is over on this planet, I will have driven one of these Tesla automobiles and I will be the better for it.
It’s more a promise than a guarantee but still a worthwhile fact to include in the value calculation.
600,000 miles is optimistic but even if you half that 300,000 is still quite a bit. The point being the battery deterioration is no worse and most likely far better than engine and transmission deterioration in gasoline cars, so the cost of battery replacement should not be factored into which one is better value.
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