"PASSION"...
"THE OTHER SIDE"....
Posted on 08/25/2015 10:27:54 PM PDT by grey_whiskers
Possibly it could turn out that way. I really have no idea: We are in totally uncharted territory here. I've never seen anything like it. And my crystal ball is completely fogged over....
As for The Donald not anticipating Megyn Kelly's question, that seems dubious to me. I think he very much expected it, and was prepared to answer it just the way he did. No surprises there — except that maybe he was surprised that this would be the first question of the "debate," and not, say, the last. But it was not as if Kelly was eliciting any new "news" about The Donald....
It seems to me Ms. Kelly is trying to become the female incarnation of Bill O'Reilly. (Heaven forfend!!!) She cares 'way too much about the "ratings."
Developments on the Democrat side are also exceptionally complex, and — given that Obama increasingly seems to have a behind-the-scenes hand in manipulating the outcome — unpredictable. Once he's done with Hillary!, he'll take on whoever is leading in the GOP. I expect to see some exceptionally dirty politics....
Lots of moving parts here, lots of balls in the air. And we still have a long way to go to November 2016.
Thanks, x, for sharing your thoughts with me.
I love Cruz — he's my guy. But I could vote for The Donald without holding my nose....
As I would have to do, in the unlikely case that Jeb! wins the nomination.
Trump is exactly right about Jeb!: He doesn't have the energy, the passion, to be president.
I'd say The Donald is an astute reader of a person's character....
The real issue before us is what we get when voting for an approved GOP candidate. Answer: we get the current status of the US of America.
The GOP has capitulated and manipulated its way to the day when its base is totally disgusted with it. I’m one of those totally disgusted millions.
Even with Cruz, you could see the GOP maneuvering to kill him off from day one, and the Bush money and backers were preparing to do scorched earth on him. Scorched earth worked in 2012 and it will still work UNLESS the candidate has the money to fight back.
Enter Trump. He fights back, he can fight back, and he seems to have a gift for picking fights that keep his name in the news.
So, if I want more of the same. More Boehner and McConnell sliminess and deceptive back room dealing; more Corker subverting the Constitution, more Scotus republican appointments putting immorality in my community, more serf immigrants replacing American workers, and more international ownership of the USA through insane indebtedness and traitorous trade deals, then I will rush to the polls to vote for the establishment GOP.
But, if I want to gamble on an outsider like Trump, who isn’t pristine, but appears to be trying, then I will write a post like this and challenge anyone to prove to me why Bush and more of the same is better than gambling on Trump, who just might pick Cruz as his running mate.
I don’t subscribe to the original premise.
How is Trump a problem again, in a world that Boehner and McConnell occupy?
Isn’t Trump the direct reaction to their inaction?
"PASSION"...
"THE OTHER SIDE"....
Thats was a really good assessment (of DONALD TRUMP)-South40....
I feel the same mystery is why freepers of all places fall generally for this clap trap.. of TRUMP..
When much of what he says is ECHOing Ted Cruz..
Does D.TRUMP care about the US.. Constitution?.. like Ted Cruz DOES?..
The obvious answer is for most of his life is ..NO..
Stone hard democrat even tho sometimes gave to RINOs..
AND IF NO.. How bizarre is TRUMPs deep philosophy?..
The real question (no one is asking) is, is TRUMP a Republican OR A RINO?..
A RINO with a get out of SLIME CARD on Free Republic..
AND further ( IF ) a RINO why not a democrat...
HAS Free Republic changed that much that a RINO can be touted as a Conservative?..
Has “the Brains” been sucked out of many Freepers?.
If so TRUMP is a wizard.. casting a spell..
Even Romney was vetted more fully..
Rand Paul treat more harshly..
On Free Republic there must be a “GULLIBILITY VIRUS”
Infecting many with PollyAnna symptoms..
LOL......
As long as the RINO is saying what they want to hear, apparently so.
There is no question Donald J. Trump is a liberal. Few have denied it and many here have told me they just don't care. When I ask them to name another liberal they trust they can't do it. That considered, why trust liberal Donald Trump?
Thanks for the ping.
Ted Cruz is my idea of a great great conservative for the White House, he’s destined for the White House.
There are two incontrovertible things of many incontrovertible things with Donald Trump that close the deal for me:
1) He loves our Vets
2) He’s tough, as in old school New York City tough.
All the other sales points that are used in boosting him such as immigration, no one can buy him, etc. are all derived from the above two points and those two points above are indisputable. Point one confirms and validates such things as his patriotism, putting America first, deporting alien lawbreakers, etc. and point two confirms and validates he won’t back down from such things as political correctness, ill manners and misbehavior and in fact will go on the offense to the surprise and horror of his attackers. <— ‘his attackers’, note this.
Trump’s essence is passive-aggressive as is typical of old New York City behaviors. Everybody in that metropolis who were and are players had for many many decades developed a code of ethics based on how you treated your friends and how you treated your foes. All others who are neither friend nor foe are treated respectfully but kept distant. You will often hear of people that have visited NYC for the first time that people there were so friendly to them and how confusing it is that the city has such a reputation for rudeness and meanness. That’s because outside first-time visitors are ‘innocent’ but just as soon as someone decides to move there, if they weren’t already born there, and make a ‘presence’, then they immediately learn of the underlying urban war. To survive there one has to develop a toughness unlike any other place in the world. That’s how it is that New Yorkers say that if you can make it in New York, then you can make it anywhere.
The takeaway here is there are two Donald Trumps, two faces: one face for his enemies and another face for everyone else.
New Yorkers (here meaning those in the city) are typically of the mind that they look their foes in the eye with a big smile on their face while in the back of their minds they are looking to kill and screw them over. Because a lot of what goes on in New York is about screwing your enemies. That’s where the toughness sets in.
When old school New Yorkers greet someone they very much respect and admire they typically look somber with a stern look as an acknowledgement of the respect they are paying and the esteem they hold the person.
I know it seems backwards from what most of the world expects but it really works that way in New York City.
To make it clear: if you are his enemy or a criminal, he will break all norms of behavior including lying in order to bring you down and lock you up. General George Washington defeated the World’s superpower with a ragtag army using masterful lies. So although social norms at their root promote telling the truth as an inviolate principle, those social norms are not applicable in war. And NYC is a region of passive-aggressive behavioral warfare. I infer that all is fair in war in the eyes of Donald Trump. All lawbreakers are his enemies. All contract breakers are his enemies. Anything goes when dealing with them as long as the Rule of Law is at least on the surface left intact for the law abiding. Everyone else who is not an enemy either gets a somber gesture of respect or a challenge to prove themselves.
Where did I learn this? From long time residents of NYC. These observations are not coming from me. They are merely passed on by people that know that environment. I’ve spent a lot of time in NYC with relatives, friends, business people but I’ve never lived there. When I get introduced to a New Yorker who greets me with a big smile, then I know I’ve somehow received bad press beforehand maybe from a cutthroat competitor, and I know I have my work cut out for me to establish trust if I expect to do business with that person. And I always get third parties to brief me on the persons I am meeting before the meeting because if you get caught associating with the wrong crowd, then you’ve lost before you started. Because at the top in NYC everyone knows everyone. This little tidbit of insight should help people understand why Trump is so bombastic. It’s not him, it’s the cultural exterior he’s had to adopt. To know the real Trump, all you needed was a glimpse of him while on the helicopter with those kids at the Iowa State Fair. If you ever get Donald Trump to open himself, to let his guard down like on that helicopter, then as an adult you can think you made it to his inner circle or are privileged to be close to it. And if you’re an honorable vet, then I would expect you’re already in his inner circle.
They are bewitched... Trump owns a pixie dust mine..
Are you saying that Ted Cruz is "gullible," and has been infected with "PollyAnna symptoms?" If anything, Cruz evidences admiration for The Donald. He even invited him to give a speech at the upcoming Rally from the Capitol steps to protest the Iran Deal. Cruz is no fool....
So who's right here: you, or Ted Cruz?
There are two incontrovertible things of many incontrovertible things with Donald Trump that close the deal for me:
1) He loves our Vets
2) He’s tough, as in old school New York City tough.
1) If he loves Vets why did support and vote for democrats all those years, probably still does?
2) In New York City they disarm the decent people SO THAT the indecent people can ROB THEM.. at gun point..
TWO Reasons to question Donald Trump..
If anything, Cruz evidences admiration for The Donald. He even invited him to give a speech at the upcoming Rally from the Capitol steps to protest the Iran Deal. Cruz is no fool....
Cruz is cunning.. like when he was a prosecutor...
You can teach a monkey to shoot a gun at monkeys..
When a liberal is digging his grave, WHY STOP HIM?..
When a ______..... ( jeese you get the idea)..
Me, too. Totally disgusted. I have come to regard the RNC as a criminal conspiracy....
You wrote: "But, if I want to gamble on an outsider like Trump, who isn’t pristine, but appears to be trying, then I will write a post like this and challenge anyone to prove to me why Bush and more of the same is better than gambling on Trump, who just might pick Cruz as his running mate."
And wouldn't that be nice??? The Donald is 69 years old, Cruz, 45 — maybe a little on the young side for the Office of the President. But 4 or 8 years of "seasoning" as veep in a Trump administration would set him up wonderfully for a run for the presidency down the road, while still a relatively young man....
Plus with Cruz there, The Donald would have a superlative constitutional, economic, and social conservative on his team.
As far as I'm concerned, the GOP-e is toast. McConnell and Boehner fill me with disgust. The are just "working the system" for their own benefit like everybody else in Washington, D.C., while America and the American people perish....
My two-cents' worth.
Trump is a Master at “PLAYING” RINOs and Wimmen..
And thats the bad part.. the Bad part is..
Most RINOs and Wimmen WANT TO PLAYED..
Used to be most Freepers get pissed off if their being “played”..
Unless most/many freepers have become RINOS..
Homie the Clown(me) don’t play that..
> “If he loves Vets why did support and vote for democrats all those years, probably still does?”
I can see you don’t understand Old NYC.
Because in NYC you smile at your enemies. As Mario Puzo wrote the saying, and he didn’t invent it, it was always understood in NYC, “keep your friends close and your enemies closer.”
http://elitedaily.com/life/real-reason-keep-enemies-closer-friends/913742
Elite Daily is headquartered in NYC.
> “In New York City they disarm the decent people SO THAT the indecent people can ROB THEM.. at gun point.”
Again it is quite evident you don’t understand the City.
Yes, it’s awful to disarm people but many people keep illegal guns including persons respectful of the law. That sounds contradictory and it is but it’s how it is in NYC.
The law against guns in NYC is one of many many many draconian laws that go against the grain of the Founders and American principles. To understand why such laws exist, you have to think ‘locally’ and have developed a hatred for criminals that get off time and time again. When that mentally sets in, you support hundreds, even thousands of laws to get the criminal SOB who smiles and smirks at you after they have robbed you, hurt you or poisoned your dog. So the City passes an avalanche of laws not because they think criminals will respect them, but because LEOs will have just about any reason to nab a bad guy. Someone jay walks, someone spits on the sidewalk, someone scowls at a shop owner (initimidates them, disrupts them), any damn law the NYPD can use to take out the bad guy will be used.
Of course this has the consequence of making the streets mean and it also has the consequence of stripping rights away but the alternative is unmitigated urban warfare.
I’ve looked out of my cousin’s window in Soho and witnessed a person fire a gun from a balcony at someone on the street not to hit them but to scare them. Because if the neighborhood is not a tourist path and you are not a known person, your life is at risk by walking into unknown parts as an unknown person.
I can see you don’t understand Old NYC.
Yes I do.. same people run NYC that run Washington D.C.
lobbyists paid by Crony Capitalists..
If it’s possible NYC is worse than Washington D.C.
Course Boston runs a close 2nd..
The attitudes and behaviors started in NYC and spread.
Alright, I can see you got a chip on your shoulder and no insight to contribute.
Now move on away from me and don’t bother me anymore.
I’m am very much enjoying reading your posts, betty boop.
Me, I'm not any kind of Republican anymore. And haven't been, since 2010. In the immortal words of Ronald Reagan, I didn't leave the party; the party left me.
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