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Why Does Windows Seven Constantly Churn My Hard Disk ?
self ^ | 8/3/15 | jimt

Posted on 08/03/2015 3:18:07 PM PDT by jimt

Why does my cheapo Dell Inspiron netbook have continuous hard disk activity when idle ? Not only during actual usage, but ALL the time - like now ?

I've been an MS OS user since DOS 3.3. But with MS's current massive invasion of privacy (Windows 10) and seeing constant, non-stop disk activity when there's no reason for it, I don't trust Windows 7 either. What gives ?


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Science
KEYWORDS: windows; windowspinglist
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To: Paladin2

He may have that turned off.


21 posted on 08/03/2015 3:43:27 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: jimt

If it’s cheap it may be underpowered in terms of RAM hence the establishment of and possibly heavy use of the swap file.

Latter-day version of Windows have a search indexer that runs to, er, index files for facilitating searches. Windows 7 has been fairly stable but the ‘Green Bar of Slowness’ when doing file searches remains a major pain. According to MS the index function speeds these searches up.

The promise is that the indexing will only take place when the system is idle but as with all promises from MS I take that with a grain of salt.


22 posted on 08/03/2015 3:47:01 PM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends)
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To: jimt

Maybe you are in perpetual ‘Indexing’ mode??


23 posted on 08/03/2015 3:48:01 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Kirkwood

The os should be smart enough to suggest that the user turn it on. This sounds very much like disk management I had to do with Win3.1.


24 posted on 08/03/2015 3:49:12 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: rstrahan

All is calm here running Debian 8


25 posted on 08/03/2015 3:50:02 PM PDT by WhoisAlanGreenspan?
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To: Mr. K

What he said here. Turn off indexing. When I used to use Windows it always did that until I turned it off.


26 posted on 08/03/2015 3:53:47 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: jimt

One Gb RAM will barely run Win7. Two Gb is the minimum I would recommend. I would let Windows sort out the pagefile memory itself and do not try to force it to use more if the HDD is already slow, or turn it off completely, which would be a serious mistake with only 1 Gb of RAM.

Tune up your HDD first by defragging and check for disk errors, then if you have less than 15% free space you should free up space by dumping some of your data to another storage drive or upgrade the HDD to a larger and faster drive. You should also upgrade the RAM to at least 2Gb if you are getting it serviced, but 4 is even better.

Or maybe it is just time to get another computer with better specs all around. There are some good deals for used computers (see walmart or dell) if you don’t want to buy something new.


27 posted on 08/03/2015 3:56:30 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: jimt

How about upgrading to Windows 10?


28 posted on 08/03/2015 3:57:43 PM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: Mr. K

+ Belarc advisor


29 posted on 08/03/2015 4:12:34 PM PDT by Fhios (I hope Trump can keep us entertained for the next 6 months.)
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To: jimt

1 GB of memory is not enough.


30 posted on 08/03/2015 4:17:45 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: jimt
Elementary OS

I probably have the same netbook you have. Never could play youtube properly with that Windows 7 Starter edition. Ran Lubuntu on it for a while, which worked OK. Elementary OS runs great. All depends on if you need a program that runs only on Windows.

31 posted on 08/03/2015 4:18:43 PM PDT by Stentor ("The best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.")
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To: jimt

Use the “Resource Monitor” tool under the Performance Tab of the Windows Task Manager to take a look at what processes are using the HD. Do note though, that even when everything else is idle, this tool itself records stuff to the HD continuously when in use.


32 posted on 08/03/2015 4:21:01 PM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: discostu

Good call; I THINK the technical term is “thrashing”.


33 posted on 08/03/2015 4:21:38 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: jimt
This PC has 1 GB of memory - it’s a cheapo There are some options that need to be turned off if you're using an SSD disk drive ... like 'trim'. However, if you have the latest and greatest version of Windows 7 service pack 1, it's detected and done automagicly. 1 GB for running windows 7, not good enough. Anti-Virus software sucks up memory. Turn off real time protection if you have it enabled. You simply cannot run it effectively with 1G memory. Paging and swap space are reserved on the disk to swap out chunks of memory to disk when new memory is needed but the old memory is still reserved. Even on a SSD drive this will become a problem with so little memory as you will be constantly churning memory in and memory out. If you just want to browse, dabble online ... go Linux. It's much more efficient on low memory models. With 1G memory you're probably not running any commercial software.
34 posted on 08/03/2015 4:23:41 PM PDT by Fhios (I hope Trump can keep us entertained for the next 6 months.)
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To: x

I read it that way too (lol).


35 posted on 08/03/2015 4:24:15 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: Kirkwood
If it's an el cheapo machine it probably has less than 1 Gb available because on-board video uses system ram too. That machine could barely run XP let alone 7.
36 posted on 08/03/2015 4:26:14 PM PDT by this_ol_patriot
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To: jimt

w7 has msconfig. go to win key, run, msconfig. uncheck all startup items that are not MS. See if the churning stops. If yes add back 5 items reboot. Do this until you find the issue. If the churning isn’t stopped then its a virus or the pagefile. BTW there is a lot of stupidity around W10. Its much better then 7 or 8, Edge is a modern browser, and if your system was built for XP, likely it can run W10.

When you update to 10 be aware if you have a newer(3-4 y/o) computer with UEFI (bios) make sure you do a UEFI bios install. your system will boot and be faster.


37 posted on 08/03/2015 4:33:08 PM PDT by waynesa98
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To: jimt

Open up the Windows Task Manager (Ctrl-Alt-Del), click the Performance tab, then click on Resource Monitor, then click on the disk tab.

That will give you some clues.

I had the same problem on my old XP box, and it was AVG anti-virus that was the problem.


38 posted on 08/03/2015 4:33:22 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (Falcon 105)
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To: jimt

Ran disk cleanup and defrag with little result. Turning off indexing (I think) seems to have had a huge and welcome result

Thanks ! If it’s not permanent I’ll be back for more help !


39 posted on 08/03/2015 4:38:32 PM PDT by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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To: Red Steel

Automatic updates ? NEVER ! It’s the first thing I do on ANY new PC.


40 posted on 08/03/2015 4:41:48 PM PDT by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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