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America Was a Blip on the Timeline of History
Misadventures in Diversity ^ | 7/23/15 | Donald Joy

Posted on 07/23/2015 2:17:15 PM PDT by IChing

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To: Jacquerie

If you have the patience, this gets to the meat of it the further along you watch. He’s hilarious throughout, which helps. It doesn’t hurt to skip the introductory part, I don’t think, unless you want full context.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-eAKnVGGBI


21 posted on 07/23/2015 2:56:58 PM PDT by IChing
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To: IChing
Instead of name-calling, you could offer an argument to rebut the point made about the founding docs...

 

No, I'll stick with name calling. You're posting crap (We do need new layers of skin and social fabric, to protect us and give us a distinguishable identity) and trash talking the Constitution.

I repeat my obvious point. All we need, ever needed, and ever will need to restore America past this "blip" you speak of is a return to Constitutional Values.

22 posted on 07/23/2015 3:05:30 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Particularly, universal suffrage essentially guarantees that everything we held sacred via the Constitution can be and has been voted away into oblivion. There is no firewall against mob rule under universal suffrage. The founders had a firewall in place, but it didn’t last very many decades, because voting did happen to an extent from the start. Voting is the means of egalitarianism. Am I wrong?


23 posted on 07/23/2015 3:07:47 PM PDT by IChing
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To: Responsibility2nd

I’m all ears if you’d like to explain how the founding documents are not a slow suicide pact. Seriously. Instead of knee-jerk hostility, please correct me, if you can offer any instruction. Perhaps you mean by repealing certain amendments? In that case, I’d say you’re making a bit of sense, even if the prospect of pulling that off is virtually impossible.


24 posted on 07/23/2015 3:13:05 PM PDT by IChing
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To: Jacquerie

Btw, I don’t necessarily agree with everything he says, his conclusions, just find the line of reasoning and illumination fascinating. It seems important to me that this stuff be earnestly discussed, instead of our usual default rabid defense of what may be untenable positions. It does seem we need a new strategy. What he says about monarchy is tough to accept, but maybe there’s a different and better way.


25 posted on 07/23/2015 3:17:04 PM PDT by IChing
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To: IChing; Jim Robinson

I’ve no time to listen to this fool bad mouth the Constitution and call our founding docs a slow suicide pact.

Jim, you’re a better Constitutional scholar than I am. Perhaps you can set him straight. Or just zot him.

Your call.


26 posted on 07/23/2015 3:17:44 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (With Great Freedom comes Great Responsibility)
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To: IChing

Bookmark


27 posted on 07/23/2015 3:34:48 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: IChing

It was nice while it lasted. America is gone. What’s next? May the South rise again.


28 posted on 07/23/2015 3:49:14 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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To: IChing
There is no firewall against mob rule under universal suffrage.

100% agreed. The only remedy for universal suffrage is to require UNANIMOUS adult consent for ANY action by government.

Yep, I know how hard that is.

Yep, I know how weak that would make the government.

Good. Governments are a root of evil in this world.

29 posted on 07/23/2015 3:51:49 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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To: IChing
I’m all ears if you’d like to explain how the founding documents are not a slow suicide pact.

It was hard for me to accept, but after I read Lysander Spooner, I couldn't help but to agree with him-- and you. Those of you who haven't, read Spooner's "Constitution of No Authority". It's freely available-- Google it. The man predicted what happened in the 20th and 21st century (that the Constitution would not restrain government) back in the 1840's. Brilliant man.

30 posted on 07/23/2015 3:54:32 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Read some Lysander Spooner. It’s painful, but we must learn the lesson that the Constitution cannot restrain government. Any charter, no matter how perfect, cannot do that. Only the people themselves, through armed oversight, can restrain government. And we have steadfastly refused to do so.


31 posted on 07/23/2015 3:55:58 PM PDT by backwoods-engineer (AMERICA IS DONE! When can we start over?)
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To: humblegunner
And what would you propose he do? Buy a horse and charge DC by himself? Every republican whore we elect goes to DC and is only concerned about one thing, getting rich.

What else can a conservative do since we are the only ones expendable in this whole charade?

32 posted on 07/23/2015 4:17:00 PM PDT by LouAvul (Venal and evil people are destroying the world you live in.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Glad someone gets it, instead of attacking the messenger and blindly, belligerently repeating the same insanity over and over again, thinking things will be different if we just keep doing it. There has to be some better way. The neoreactionary approach presented by Paul Ramsey is intriguing, but problematic for the same reasons the Enlightenment came about in the first place, so it’s so important that we exhaustively hash all this out for the future. And find solutions.


33 posted on 07/23/2015 5:23:28 PM PDT by IChing
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To: backwoods-engineer

I’ve heard of him over the years, may have even read some of his writing, but not sure if I have — definitely will check it out asap. Thanks.


34 posted on 07/23/2015 5:25:30 PM PDT by IChing
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To: IChing
All this racial/ethnic/civilizational chaos would disappear if everyone would see that there is a single universal, objective moral code that applies to all people in all places in all times. "Conservatives" who consider G-d (lehavdil!) a creation of the philosophy of "white, western European man" are nothing but atheists and pagans with a veneer of morality.

And I agree: the "enlightenment" was a disaster.

35 posted on 07/23/2015 5:28:37 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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To: backwoods-engineer

Of course, there’s always that old saying being perhaps the only or best solution/truth we’ll ever realize, “democracy is the worst form of government — except for all the others.”


36 posted on 07/23/2015 5:38:04 PM PDT by IChing
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Hmmm, so...governments and countries should be organized on the principle of...? Or no distinct countries, just Judeo-Christian theocracy? Or theocracy of which kind? You lost me.


37 posted on 07/23/2015 5:42:21 PM PDT by IChing
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To: IChing

America IS an idea, a story, an experiment, and not a region or a race; the problem is that we have in our comfort and complacency and pursuit of our own individual ends allowed a radical faction of people to organize and redefine the words.


38 posted on 07/23/2015 5:51:24 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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To: piasa

Then it is not a nation. And its dissolution is not due merely to a radical faction, but to its egalitarian philosophical foundation. Notice that Marxists and Republicans share the same basic ideology, of equality and power to the people....watch the video I linked above.


39 posted on 07/23/2015 6:19:55 PM PDT by IChing
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To: backwoods-engineer

Wow, I started reading it, so eye-opening....


40 posted on 07/24/2015 10:07:36 AM PDT by IChing
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