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Mr. Trump’s curious remark about John McCain’s time as a POW: Misstep or trap?
Coach is Right ^ | 7/20/15 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on 07/20/2015 8:38:57 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax

What could Donald Trump have been thinking when he said John McCain was not a war hero? Certainly he must have known it would lead to the end of a political career – but the question now is: Whose political career?

The media – even the putatively conservative New York Post – is gleefully saying, “Trump is toast after insult: ‘McCain not a war hero’ Don Voyage!”

Is this true; or is this media wishful thinking so they can go back to telling us how wonderful Jeb Bush is? Wishful thinking is a dangerous thing in all walks of life especially the media.

Trump has been very successful by hiring the right people to work for him in whatever he does which now includes politics.

The right people for Trump to hire to be successful in his political battles are any of the dozens of highly skilled opposition researchers from across the country. “Opo” researchers are the ones who supply the material for the political bombs that blow up the other side. Rest assured that Trump has hired the best Opo Team money can buy; and they have given Trump the material to break John McCain in half.

What follows is an article that was pulled out in about 35 seconds. It was most certainly part of an Opo report produced on John McCain.

Was Trump’s remark about McCain a misstep or a trap? You decide because the media...

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TOPICS: Government; History; Military/Veterans; Politics
KEYWORDS: donaldtrump; mias; pow; vietnam
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1 posted on 07/20/2015 8:38:57 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax
Regarding McCain's history as a "war hero", I have no proof of this except that he survived.

He is certainly a liar and scumbag now. Why would I doubt that he was a liar and scumbag during his stay at the Hanoi Hilton?

2 posted on 07/20/2015 8:40:20 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne (The night is far spent, the day is at hand.- Romans 13:12)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Enough. Time to stop feeding the Marxist Media wolf. What I want to know is McCain gonna vote no on Obama’s Iran deal?


3 posted on 07/20/2015 8:42:58 AM PDT by Lopeover (My vote is valuable, you must earn it.)
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To: Oldpuppymax
it was no big deal. IMHO signed...just another crazy!

But it keeps them quite on Iran...and the latest muzzie attack.

4 posted on 07/20/2015 8:44:08 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Oldpuppymax
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[...go back to telling us how wonderful Jeb Bush is?] He's the sequel of McCains' failure.

5 posted on 07/20/2015 8:50:53 AM PDT by RetSignman (Obama is the walking, talking middle finger in the face of America)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Misstep. Trump has developed an all out confrontational style and he will take no prisoners. His comments in regards to John McCain reflect that.

It probably wasn’t the smartest thing to do, even if McCain is scum.


6 posted on 07/20/2015 8:53:40 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: pocat

ping


7 posted on 07/20/2015 8:56:24 AM PDT by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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To: Oldpuppymax

It might be useful to find out what Trump actually said rather than simply swallow what state-controlled media says he said.

https://sharylattkisson.com/fact-check-the-washington-post-on-donald-trump-and-john-mccain/


8 posted on 07/20/2015 8:57:12 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("One man with a gun can control a hundred without one." -- Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Jonty30

It might be useful to find out what Trump actually said rather than simply swallow what state-controlled media says he said.

https://sharylattkisson.com/fact-check-the-washington-post-on-donald-trump-and-john-mccain/


9 posted on 07/20/2015 8:57:36 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("One man with a gun can control a hundred without one." -- Vladimir Lenin)
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To: timestax
Johnny ISIS --These photos don't lie !

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10 posted on 07/20/2015 8:57:46 AM PDT by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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To: Oldpuppymax

FACT CHECK TRUMP VS. MCCAIN
Probably time for a review and some much needed FACT CHECKING!
If you still don’t believe the lapdog MSM is out to gut Trump, here’s another example of their typical yellow “journalism”.
If you don’t recognize her name, Sharyl Attkisson BAILED from CBS IIRC because they attempted to CENSOR her reportage!
https://sharylattkisson.com/fact-check-the-washington-post-on-donald-trump-and-john-mccain/


11 posted on 07/20/2015 9:00:16 AM PDT by Dick Bachert (This entire "administration" has been a series of Reischstag Fires. We know how that turned out!)
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To: Oldpuppymax

So, if this is a ‘trap’, exactly what does a fight over McCain’s war record accomplish? Wouldn’t a fight over Hillary’s record be more useful?


12 posted on 07/20/2015 9:00:52 AM PDT by DugwayDuke
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To: Oldpuppymax
Now that this issue has been around for a few days, I think this bombshell on McCain was planned.

This is how Trump dominates the news cycle...and he'll come up with something else by the coming weekend.

13 posted on 07/20/2015 9:04:31 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Dr. Thorne

He might have had a heroic moment once. That was wiped clean at the moment he became a traitor.
Vietnam and moneyed interests needed MFN trade status.

To make that happen, he closed the door on the POWs who were still in captivity. He treated those families like garbage, and sealed the records.

He is no hero. He is a herpe, for sale to the highest bidder.


14 posted on 07/20/2015 9:06:57 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: Oldpuppymax

I’ve long thought the word “hero” is thrown around with little regard for context. It’s become as annoying as the overuse of the word “friend”. If everyone is your “friend” how good a friend can they be? That’s why we have the word “acquaintance”— you know the person, are perhaps familiar with them through social contact, but they are not within your circles of...friends.

I suppose it’s a form of grade inflation...or perhaps we use important words to describe someone as a form of flattery, all the while intending to get away with not paying them what we actually owe them.

Way back at the end of a misspent but extremely fascinating youth, I wound up at Mrs. Benning’s School for Wayward Boys. An old E-7 walked up to our group as we waited for the next “block of instruction” and asked “How many of you are willing to die for your country?”. We all raised our hands, of course. Then he said “Well, I sure as hell don’t want to go to war with any of you...the point of war is to make the other guy die for his country”.

He had a point. Few people have said so little and so completely rearranged my thinking on a topic.

A little later on in the training cycle, another crusty old sergeant major said “Purple hearts don’t win wars, boys, silver stars, DSCs, MOHs— that’s what wins wars.”

He was drawing a distinction between heroism and sacrifice.

So while a purple heart is a measure of sacrifice for the nation, what we owe them is a properly funded veterans medical system. Skip the “hero” label. Maybe they are, and maybe they aren’t— but if it happened on the battlefield, you don’t have any business asking. Shut up and pay for his (or these days, her) treatment.

In the meantime, how many of you can name a single Medal of Honor winner in the Iraq or Afghanistan conflicts. I can’t— to my shame. The last MoH winner I can name is Roy Benevides, although I know the two Delta snipers got the medal for Somalia— can’t name them.

So Trump—as inartfully done as one can possibly imagine— has made a point that needs to percolate up to the top of the national discussion.


15 posted on 07/20/2015 9:08:15 AM PDT by ameribbean expat
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To: Oldpuppymax
What could Donald Trump have been thinking when he said John McCain was not a war hero?

That presupposes that Trump was thinking at the time he said it.

16 posted on 07/20/2015 9:10:25 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Oldpuppymax

McCain was a hero. Of course, so was Benedict Arnold.


17 posted on 07/20/2015 9:12:51 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Lex rex)
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To: Oldpuppymax

Except for his stint as a POW, exactly what did McCain do during his time in the Navy? We know he was a pilot ... yeah, so? He wasn’t an “ace” to my knowledge.

I do seem to recall some connection between McCain and the devastating carrier fire aboard the USS Forrestal. I don’t remember the details but I’m sure one of our Fine FReeping Factfinders can dig up the story.


18 posted on 07/20/2015 9:15:57 AM PDT by DNME (This is the government the Framers warned us about.)
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To: ameribbean expat
I’ve long thought the word “hero” is thrown around with little regard for context. It’s become as annoying as the overuse of the word “friend”. If everyone is your “friend” how good a friend can they be? That’s why we have the word “acquaintance”— you know the person, are perhaps familiar with them through social contact, but they are not within your circles of...friends...

Exactly. The classic definition of heroism required a person taking action to resolve a situation for the greater good, in addition to requiring courage and bravery. Surviving in a prison camp does not make one a hero.) I do admire McCain for his perseverance and courage in that situation.

These days every soldier is labelled a hero. What word does that leave for those who display true acts of heroism?

19 posted on 07/20/2015 9:17:40 AM PDT by Kipp
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To: DoodleDawg

Trump has had vast experience at the negotiating table. Deals often hinge on even the slightest of nuances. He did not get where he is by making off hand remarks that are not completely thought out and debated prior. These comments about McCain would not be accidental.


20 posted on 07/20/2015 9:21:51 AM PDT by Raycpa
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