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Hey, let’s create a national database of gun owners!
Hot Air ^ | May 24, 2015 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 05/24/2015 5:39:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

There’s one refrain which the Democrat choir always breaks out whenever they propose new gun restrictions: Oh, we’re not trying to establish some national registry of gun owners. Perish the thought! But when you look under the covers of these various proposals, they all seem to come suspiciously close to doing just that. (Not that we’re suggesting anything here, mind you. Perish the thought.) And yet that same discussion has arisen once again now that Congresswoman Carolyn Maloney has resurrected the prospect of “closing loopholes” at gun shows. Funny how that works, eh? (From The Hill)

Rep. Carolyn Maloney (D-N.Y.) on Tuesday reintroduced the Gun Show Loophole Closing Act, a bill long championed by former Rep. Carolyn McCarthy (D-N.Y.),.

The bill would subject anyone selling or transferring a gun to the National Instant Criminal Background Check System and require that transfers be reported to the attorney general.

Maloney said a background check is required when a Federal Firearm Licensee wants to sell firearms at a gun show, but no such requirement exists for private sales.

At Bearing Arms, Bob Owens connects the dots.

Maloney claims her bill would specifically target the individual seller… but it does so in ways that she’d rather hide.

You’ll note that the “Let’s Build An Illegal Database Of Gun Owners Bill” (which is what Maloney’s legislation should really be called) would require that the transfer of private property from one individual to another be reported to one of the most politicized and abused offices in the executive branch, the Attorney General.

What exactly do you think the Attorney General is going to do with that information? The AG is going to collect, compile, and begin transforming those records into a “Who’s Who” of gun owners, which is database that would send chills down the backs of the Founding Fathers, for there is no other reason that a government needs this information, than to use it against the citizenry.

Consider how easy it is for the states with restrictive, anti-gun laws to assemble such data. In New York, it was recently revealed through a Freedom of Information request that the state government had assembled a list of more than 38K people who were “at risk” for owning guns because they had received mental health care. (Though not having been accused of any crime in most cases.) The newspaper which uncovered the story was then able to compare that to a list of pistol permit holders in the state and came up with a few hundred matches. Where did they get that second list?

At some point the Democrats need to simply come clean and admit that even state by state lists of gun owners are either showing up or will eventually show up in the the hands of the federal government. This is not a bug in the system… it’s a feature. And continuing to deny it turns a very important constitutional rights discussion into a clown show.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: banglist; democrats
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1 posted on 05/24/2015 5:39:09 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There is already a database on gun owners at ATF. I suppose NSA has one also.

What if we closed some Congress loopholes.


2 posted on 05/24/2015 5:43:40 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: mountainlion

Betr, what if e closed Congress. And al the alphabet agencies.


3 posted on 05/24/2015 5:45:52 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gun Registration is Gun Confiscation

http://gunwatch.blogspot.com/2012/12/gun-registration-is-gun-confiscation.html

This is the first essay that I wrote on the subject. It has been widely quoted.


4 posted on 05/24/2015 5:45:53 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When cops do a traffic stop do they have access to handgun permit data?


5 posted on 05/24/2015 5:48:37 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: mountainlion

Here’s a better idea. How about publishing the home address of every gun-grabbing liberal pos in Congress along with every other communist in public service and putting it on the GOA website?


6 posted on 05/24/2015 5:51:49 PM PDT by jimbug
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To: Paladin2

They have access to CHL data. First question I’m always asked when I’m pulled over, “I see you have a CHL, are you carrying now?”


7 posted on 05/24/2015 5:55:34 PM PDT by ziravan (Choose Sides.)
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To: Paladin2

“When cops do a traffic stop do they have access to handgun permit data?”

In California they do. The handgun is tied to you via your D/L through the DMV.


8 posted on 05/24/2015 5:56:17 PM PDT by Polynikes (What would Walt Kowalski do. In the meantime "GET OFF MY LAWN")
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To: Paladin2
When cops do a traffic stop do they have access to handgun permit data?

Yep. Here in Idaho, your CWP and DL have the same number.

9 posted on 05/24/2015 5:56:24 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: Paladin2
When cops do a traffic stop do they have access to handgun permit data?

In Michigan, CPL records can be accessed via the LEIN system during a routine traffic stop. So yes, they do.

10 posted on 05/24/2015 5:57:42 PM PDT by farming pharmer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sounds good. Let’s vet the list so it only has Dem voters and Progressive activists on it.


11 posted on 05/24/2015 5:59:16 PM PDT by TigersEye (If You Are Ignorant, Don't Vote!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

All federal agents need SCUBA gear. All our guns are at the bottom of our favorite fishing lakes. Once Obama’s SS detail give up their guns, we’ll give up ours. though we don’t have any. They’re all at the bottom of the lake.


12 posted on 05/24/2015 6:00:56 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It’ll probably cause more boating accidents IMHO


13 posted on 05/24/2015 6:01:10 PM PDT by SkyDancer ( I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am ...)
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To: marktwain

Obviously, illegal does not mean unavailable.

Second Amendment protections were put into place so that “the people”, if need be, could shoot agents of an oppressive government....not deer.


14 posted on 05/24/2015 6:01:54 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Paladin2

>> When cops do a traffic stop do they have access to handgun permit data? <<

Some states (or at least Minnesota) put that information on the drivers licenses.

When I had to verify age and identity from drivers licenses, CC folks had an F printed on the list of vehicles they were allowed to operate.


15 posted on 05/24/2015 6:03:49 PM PDT by JJ_Folderol (Diagonally parked in a parallel universe...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The medical, debt collection and mass marketing rackets already have such databases.


16 posted on 05/24/2015 6:04:36 PM PDT by familyop
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Or…we could build a data base of illegal contributions to Hillary and the Democrat Party.! That would do more to fight crime and corruption in this country than another gun law.


17 posted on 05/24/2015 6:06:11 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The 17 intelligence agencies pride themselves in filling in the gaps in their data, by reaching conclusions based on partial evidence.

For example, have you ever purchased a box of ammo with a credit card? This means they know you probably have a gun that fires that type of ammo. Have you have ever mentioned your ownership of a gun on the Internet? (before the unfortunate boating accident, of course).

And once they have that information, they have it for good.


18 posted on 05/24/2015 6:07:12 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

No such thing as a gunshow loophole. These are just private party transfers, so when they want to close gunshow loopholes, they also mean to close all private party sales.


19 posted on 05/24/2015 6:11:48 PM PDT by umgud (When under attack, victims want 2 things; God & a gun)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If you don’t have anything to hide, why be afraid? //sarc


20 posted on 05/24/2015 6:13:02 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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