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Ted Cruz and Amnesty: The Telltale Video
KausFiles ^ | 05/21/2015 | Mickey Kaus

Posted on 05/21/2015 4:30:56 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Do You Have Amnesty in that Basket? Did Ted Cruz support an immigration solution that involved legalizing the 11 million or so illegals now in the U.S.? When we last left this dispute, Cruz staffers were denying it. True, a New York Times article had asserted that Cruz was carving out a “middle ground” on immigration, offering illegals legalization (work permits that would allow them to stay here) but making stopping short of the citizenship offered in the Senate’s “Gang of 8″ bill:

Asked about what to do with the people here illegally, however, he stressed that he had never tried to undo the goal of allowing them to stay.

“The amendment that I introduced removed the path to citizenship, but it did not change the underlying work permit from the Gang of Eight,” he said during a recent visit to El Paso. …

The Times’ characterization wasn’t accurate, Cruz spokesperson Brian Phillips argued. Cruz was only offering his amendment “to show that Dems won’t allow any reform without pathway to citizenship,” not because he actually supported it. Just a parliamentary device! See this Twitter exchange with MSNBC’s Benjy Sarlin:

Benjy Sarlin: @RealBPhil Okay so to be 100% clear: If his amendment succeeded, he still would not have supported work permits for existing undocumented?

Brian Phillips: .@BenjySarlin 100% clear: Cruz’s amendment had nothing to do with that issue. [Emphasis added]

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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: 2016election; amnesty; bencarson; election2016; florida; gangofeight; immigration; jebbush; marcorubio; mickeykaus; paultardation; paultardnoisemachine; randpaulnoisemachine; randsconcerntrolls; tedcruz; texas
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1 posted on 05/21/2015 4:30:56 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Here’s the video

Watch it and decide for yourself.
2 posted on 05/21/2015 4:31:37 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

EDIT TO ADD.

The most important statement he made starts at about 3:30 in the above video.


3 posted on 05/21/2015 4:32:56 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Duncan Hunter Sr who was about as tough as they come on illegal immigration used to do the same thing. Send something to the senate he didn’t like but the democrats liked even less.

It ain’t pretty but it is how the game is played.


4 posted on 05/21/2015 4:37:17 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: SeekAndFind

Where, it is an almost 10 minute video?


5 posted on 05/21/2015 4:38:13 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: SeekAndFind

Cruz is from texas, therefore he is de facto for the invasion of mexicans into the US.

He already voted for TPP, and has supported unlimited H1-B visas, meant to destroy whatever is left of the tech and manufacturing sector in texas, and the US.

I have come to the personal conclusion that the majority of texans are more patriotic to mexico than the US. This being because most texan industries are addicted to cheap central american labor.

Texas has much more in common with mexico, california, and the southern dixiecrat crowd than they are willing to admit.


6 posted on 05/21/2015 4:46:33 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Its in the transcripts but its clear that his amendment would remove the pathway to citizenship and he predicts that the democrats would kill the bill.


7 posted on 05/21/2015 4:48:21 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: cripplecreek

What a Bogus title, “The Telltale Video”? You don’t have to go to a video from two years ago, listen to Cruz right now. His position on illegal immigration has never changed and it is extremely simple to understand.

Does the confusion and “gotcha” title make sense to you, Cripplecreek?


8 posted on 05/21/2015 4:53:18 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: ansel12

RE: Where, it is an almost 10 minute video?

The most important statement he made starts at about 3:30 in the above video.


9 posted on 05/21/2015 4:55:24 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: factoryrat
Texas has much more in common with mexico, california, and the southern dixiecrat crowd than they are willing to admit.

Says the Oregonian?

10 posted on 05/21/2015 4:56:19 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: conservativejoy

Yeah, its crap.

He’s clearly talking about adding an amendment that would secure the border, remove the pathway to citizenship, and put legal immigrants first. He then predicts that the democrats and activists would kill it.


11 posted on 05/21/2015 5:00:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: cripplecreek

Thank God for Cruz. He’s the antidote to Bush and Rubio.


12 posted on 05/21/2015 5:10:17 PM PDT by conservativejoy (We Can Elect Ted Cruz! Pray Hard, Work Hard, Trust God!)
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To: factoryrat

Who is the candidate of your choice ?


13 posted on 05/21/2015 5:18:03 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (BeThe Keystone Pipe lik ProjectR : build it already Congre)
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To: ansel12

I’m not from Oregon. I moved out here from the rust belt. You know, that region of the country decimated by outsourcing to mexico, canada, and china. But before you toss the “unions are the cause of all our problems” out there, consider the fact that it takes multiple nations scattered across the earth, and millions of third world laborers, to perform same tasks that a handful of skilled Americans could easily accomplish.

The economy in texas is no better than a third world colony. Like most business interests, people chase the best return, at the cost of everyone else. So don’t whine when you have to pay unemployment and welfare to all of those people that you kicked to the curb, solely to make a profit by exploiting third world labor.


14 posted on 05/21/2015 5:21:09 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: SeekAndFind

As we’ve been reminded recently by media figures, it’s important to know who a questioner supports. Who does SeekandFind support? I’m not saying you haven’t been above board about that in the past. I just don’t recall it.


15 posted on 05/21/2015 5:23:34 PM PDT by xzins (Donate to the Freep-a-Thon or lose your ONLY voice. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: factoryrat

You sound like a typical yankee liberal.

You even despise Texas, the state that prevents the left from taking over everything.


16 posted on 05/21/2015 5:25:23 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: American Constitutionalist

So far, none of them. It’s just too early to tell.

I’ll admit that no border state politicians, and no current fed employees are worth consideration.

I’m basing those filters on the fact that any politician who set’s foot in DC will be thoroughly corrupted within a short amount of time.


17 posted on 05/21/2015 5:30:52 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: ansel12

“Yankee”.

Says it all.

Still sore from not only having the mexicans handing your collective asses back to you, the “Yankees” in the union did the same not what, less than two decades later?

At least the other Confederate states didn’t get their asses kicked by TWO different nations.


18 posted on 05/21/2015 5:38:19 PM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: factoryrat

Mexico defeated Texas in a war? Which war was that, the war of Mexican Independence from Texas?

Since you are still a yankee liberal, why not share which home state it is that you find so pleasingly, liberally superior, to the famously conservative state of Texas?


19 posted on 05/21/2015 5:42:26 PM PDT by ansel12
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To: ansel12

Factory rat has his little rat head right up his poop factory.


20 posted on 05/21/2015 5:54:52 PM PDT by John Valentine (Deep in the Heart of Texas)
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