Sally Kohn: Why Indiana Needs a Church of Gay (Vile and repulsive fascists)

The Daily Beast ^ | March 31, 2015 | Sally Kohn

[Squawk 8888]

I’m getting the sense that we’ve reached the tipping point where the mainstream is waking up to the threat posed by these Social Justice Warriors. Even some MSM outlets are starting to take issue with them because the backlash is getting too big for them to bury on page 23.

[Steve_Seattle]

"Or actually pass state and federal laws specifying that gay businesses have the legal right to discriminate against religious fundamentalists."

That works for me. I'd be happy not to give them my business. On the other hand, imagine these scenarios:

1. Should a Muslim-owned grocery store be forced to sell non-halal products?

2. Should a Jewish deli be forced to sell non-kosher products?

3. Should a newspaper be forced to run ads that they find offensive? (No, they don't have to, the Supreme Court has ruled they have almost unlimited discretion in what they will allow, even though they are often a virtual monopoly in their community.)

4. Should an advertising agency be required to accept clients even if they oppose the nature of the client's business or the client's business practices?

5. Should a lawyer be forced to accept any client, even if he does not support the client's case?

Liberals would answer "no" to all these questions, yet they force Christian businesses to violate THEIR conscience.

[Steve_Seattle]

"I’m getting the sense that we’ve reached the tipping point where the mainstream is waking up to the threat posed by these Social Justice Warriors. Even some MSM outlets are starting to take issue with them because the backlash is getting too big for them to bury on page 23."

I wish you were right, but from what I've seen, the mainstream - big business and big media - are all-in for boycotting Indiana.

[Squawk 8888]

Big media yes, everyone I meet in person and online are shaking their heads, including all of the liberals whom I know personally. A lot of them are going to go conservative before this is over.

[Squawk 8888]

Am I the only one who wants to scream, "Grow the f*** up!" when hearing or reading diatribes like this?

[driftless2]

So what if some homosexuals opened a bakery and refused to bake wedding cakes for heterosexuals. Would anybody be put out? Obviously not. Just go to some bakery that bakes cakes for heterosexuals.

If homosexuals can force businesses to bake cakes or create whatever homosexual-based item, then anybody, any weirdo(s) can force any business to make/create them something objectionable.

[driftless2]

Nudists could demand that wedding photographers film their nude wedding. Nazis could force Jewish bakers to bake Nazi-themed cakes.

The list is endless of businesses that would be forced to make things for groups or people they find objectionable.

[Boomer]

She does sound like a spoiled petulant child doesn’t she?

I can picture her stomping her feet screaming ME ME ME!

From what I have been able to gather through my research of Gays in general; they are about 2.5% of the population. Of that percentage I believe .75% was born Gay and the rest do it out of choice of a lifestyle.

I don’t have to understand it to accept it. I also have the right to be quite tired of their high pitched whine about every little thing that upsets their sense of moral superiority which in and of itself is tiresome.

[arthurus]

In a free market society that intends prosperity for all no owner of a business would be required by law to serve anyone he doesn't want to serve for any reason at all, including hatred, race bias, sex bias or anything else. In a free market such an entrepreneur would be limiting his universe of customers and limiting his profits. Another business would spring up to serve those unserved people and the business with universal service would be more profitable than the other. The same goes for hiring and firing.
At the same time no government entity may have any bias at all in employment or service other than ability to do the job. The evil of segregation was that it was a matter of law, not that improper choices were made by individuals.

[CommieCutter]

That gives me hope. Watching Republicans and CEOs cave all over the place does not.

[Doug Loss]

Hatred is literally existential to a Leftist.

This is quite literally a mental illness. The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders -IV refers to it as the descriptive term “intermittent explosive disorder.”

[sickoflibs]

RE :”They’re piling on:”

Oh course they are.
Its an embarrassing rout for those of us who oppose gay marriage. Ironically Gov Brewer probably did less damage to traditional marriage than Pence did by caving early.

Cruz and Levin are praising Pence and yet he is running away from this bill as fast as he can.
He's goes on TV twice and tries to convince the audience that the bill does nothing and serves NO purpose.

Not only does he NOT give examples of its use but when asked about specific examples in interviews he refuses to discuss them, the Christian flowerist not wanting to participate in gay weddings is invisible to him, when asked specifically about her situation.

If the bill doesn't discriminate as he claims, then what is he saying needs fixing?

Pence acts like someone who was told to sign the bill but didn't want to. This is how gay marriage approvals jumped up so much in so few years.

[Impy]

“A Funeral for the Anti-Gay Movement”

At the very least it’s in a nursing home being fed creamed corn by Mike Pence.

What are you doing, Mike?

[sickoflibs]

RE:”What are you doing, Mike?”

1) fing up
2) Looking stupid
3) Working undercover for LGBT rights group
4) In total panic and retreat,trying to figure out how to unconditionally surrender while saving face (too late for that Mike)

[NFHale]

Ehh.

Keep your expectation low when dealing with the GOP; you’ll never be surprised when they do crap like this.

Conversely, you’ll be f***ing amazed when they DO get it right... on the rare occasion it happens, that is.

[sickoflibs]

RE :”Keep your expectation low when dealing with the GOP; you’ll never be surprised when they do crap like this.”

The GOP seems to have decided that the only issue that they can put Dems on defense over is ISIS and Iran

1) Guns? Neutral
2) Gays? surrender
3) illegals?? all over the place...but surrender is likely.
4) taxes? lower them
5) spending?(other than military) seem want to cut some of it but too scared to make it an issue

[AppyPappy]

You are allowed to discriminate against people for what they do, not what they are. For instance: No shoes, no service.
In the bakery case, she was not discriminating against them because they were gay. She disagreed with same-sex marriage. It’s not the same as a mosque refusing to marry a couple because one of them isn’t a Muslim.

[stephenjohnbanker]

“Gov Brewer probably did less damage to traditional marriage than Pence did by caving early.”

Pence has uncorked the homo bottle, but neither of them is worth anything, IMO.

[stephenjohnbanker]

” progressives”

Nothing pisses me off more than this word. We have allowed the left to get away with using this word. I never have. I openly call them REGRESSIVES in everyday conversations. People then ask me to explain, which I am always happy to do.

[NFHale]

Like I said, brother.

I typically expect them to go weasel at the earliest opportunity and worst moment.

They never fail to disappoint.