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Despite Alarming Reports, No Proof (Yet) Co-Pilot Andreas Lubitz Converted To Islam
ClashDaily.com ^ | 3/27/15 | Donald Joy

Posted on 03/27/2015 10:00:54 AM PDT by IChing

I’m usually an eager relayer of well-founded theories and clues which help get the truth out when politically-correct authorities try to hide or minimize the Islamic identity of jihad attackers, but in the case of Andreas Lubitz I must firmly state that so far (as of 3:00 am EST, U.S.), people are posting only completely unsubstantiated, non-credible reports that he was a convert to Islam.

In the early absence of much solid information about the 28-year-old pilot’s personal life the internet is, of course, going wild with speculation about Lubitz’ motives for deliberately crashing the plane full of innocent people into a mountain, and stories about him supposedly joining “the religion of peace” before doing it as an act of jihad are swirling around.

The people making such claims — if there was really anything to them — would be putting all sorts of verifiable specifics (or at least one or two checkable sources/facts) into their blog posts and articles to back up such an important allegation. However, they aren’t, so the fact is that they’re just trolls stirring up hysteria in order to generate traffic to their websites.

I believe it’s possible that Lubitz was a Muslim convert, but so far nothing credible has been made public to support that angle.

Certain internet posts in particular have gone viral, stating as if it’s fact that Lubitz converted to Islam. One of them, an article from a highly dubious German “news” website, has been translated into English and spread by The Gateway Pundit blog. The article’s headline bluntly states: The co-pilot of the Germanwings Airbus was a convert to Islam. In it, the writer says “All evidence indicates” that Lubitz’ conversion to Islam took place during his unexpected 6-month hiatus from pilot training (reported elsewhere as due to depression and “burnout”), and that he “was staying often” at a radical mosque in Bremen, Germany, where his flight school was located.

None of those claims are attributed to any source whatsoever; not even anyone described as “wishing to remain anonymous” is cited.

Another blog, St Thomas Aquinas Versus NASA, flatly declares in its headline: Muslim Convert Co-Pilot Andreas Gunter Lubitz Committed Jihad. In that post, without naming a single source, the writer states:

“It was said that Lubitz had a Muslim girlfriend. It is unclear if she was still dating Lubitz at the time of the crash. It is unclear if he met her through his Muslims(sic) friends.”

The blogger in question goes on to insist, without any verifiable support whatsoever, that he or she knows that Lubitz converted to Islam during his break from pilot training in Bremen.

As most readers are already aware, actual Islamic jihadists have wasted no time jubilantly claiming Lubitz as one of their own, creating social media pages heralding Lubitz as a hero for Islam, and celebrating the murders of so many innocent passengers and crew on behalf of their systematic Mohammedan terror reign.

For me, the most compelling information so far related to Lubitz’ possible motives has to do with the long, unplanned break in his pilot training, reported widely as being due to depression and burnout, and the revelation from police saying they had made a “significant discovery” of something — “not a suicide note” — inside his apartment, something which “may be a clue” to what happened to the doomed jet, and which has been “sent for tests.”

We can be certain that a tsunami of fresh information is about to break out all over the media and internet about the details of Andreas Lubitz’ personal life, and about the facts and circumstances leading up to his dastardly, murderous act. We can be just as certain that not all of it will be reliable.

I’m literally on the edge of my seat typing this, waiting, just like you are if you read this far.

About one thing I’m extremely confident, and in contrary to politically-correct sources: If it turns out that Andreas Lubitz was a Muslim convert, you can bet your last Euro it had to do with what he did.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: andreaslubitz; bremen; france; germanwings; germany; lubitz; lubitzreligion; lufthansa; terrorism
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To: MrShoop
...he is a sociologist who is critical of Islam.

Any one in any profession who is not critical of Islam is either uninformed, in denial, afraid of retaliation or a Muslim.

81 posted on 03/27/2015 12:33:34 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & Ifwater the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Yosemitest
when initial investigations lead to Muslim connections ?

What initial investigations have led to what Muslim connections? Be specific, please.

82 posted on 03/27/2015 12:49:15 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: lavaroise
According to that article, he did.
This should be a lesson.
Stay away from Muslims!
83 posted on 03/27/2015 12:50:01 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: stremba
No, that's NOT what I said.
There are other EVIL people in the world.
But Muslims ARE EVIL.
Their religion is lead by Satan, and is based on HATE and MURDER of the INNOCENT.
84 posted on 03/27/2015 12:52:36 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: SuperLuminal



85 posted on 03/27/2015 12:53:44 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
Why?
You'e not specific !
86 posted on 03/27/2015 12:54:39 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest
He was associated with Muslims.

According to a single blog post that provides no evidence of such "associations."

He had a Muslim girfriend.

Any evidence of that?

They had a fight.

This I've seen reported on in sourced, vetted articles. But the fact that he had a fight with his girlfriend is meaningless without any evidence that the girlfriend was Muslim. So, going back to that, any evidence?

He converts to Islam to try to get his girlfriend back.

Evidence?

She manipulate him to "PROVE IT" by actions.

Evidence?

So he does.

Evidence?

Also, let me get this straight. Your contention is that he FLEW A PLANE INTO A MOUNTAIN as part of a plan to win his Muslim girlfriend back? I hope I don't have to explain why that isn't exactly a compelling theory.

87 posted on 03/27/2015 12:55:47 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Read again comment #8.


88 posted on 03/27/2015 12:55:51 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Yosemitest

OK. Then forget specific. Be general. Be as general as you want. But my question remains, what “investigations” have led to “Muslim connections”?


89 posted on 03/27/2015 12:56:59 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Yosemitest
OK, I'll read comment #8 again. In comment #8, you provided the following as so-called evidence:

It was said that Lubitz had a Muslim girlfriend. It is unclear if she was still dating Lubitz at the time of the crash. It is unclear if he met her through his Muslims(sic) friends.

So, your entire argument, you're entire theory is based on a blog post that cites another blog post that says that "it was said" that his girlfriend was Muslim. THAT IS NOT EVIDENCE. Who said it? When? How did whoever "said" it know that she's a Muslim? What's the girlfriend's name?

90 posted on 03/27/2015 1:01:46 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Yosemitest

You are wrong.


91 posted on 03/27/2015 1:02:31 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative; Yosemitest
It was said that Yosemitest is wrong.
92 posted on 03/27/2015 1:03:14 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Conscience of a Conservative; Yosemitest

Hey, look - it was said that you’re wrong. Therefore, by your logic, you must be wrong.


93 posted on 03/27/2015 1:03:47 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Yosemitest

But I’m not saying that!

I’m saying we as of yet have no evidence either way.

Which happens to be a fact, not an opinion.


94 posted on 03/27/2015 1:07:42 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Labyrinthos

I’m with you. At this point it’s just as likely that this sad pathetic man saw his flying career slipping away, and decided to end it on his own terms. Islam is far from the only evil in the world.


95 posted on 03/27/2015 1:41:49 PM PDT by cbvanb
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To: IChing

“people are posting only completely unsubstantiated, non-credible reports that he was a convert to Islam.”

Thank you!

Never mind that he is a homosexual because he “looks it” and was in San Francisco once (and thus, somehow, FAR more likely to off lots of people). His shack-up girlfriend sort of puts the lie to that assertion.

I will also state that I am dumbfounded by French authorities spouting off about bits of the investigation within even 1 day. There is NO WAY any air crash investigation goes this fast to draw such conclusions.

I’m not yet totally up to date, but I still have my doubts about whether assertions that he did indeed do this deliberately are correct. Looks more like it, but how do we really know the man didn’t have a medical emergency right then, and mess up the controls? If you don’t know the layout of the cockpit as well as other aspects, you cannot 100% state “he HAD to have done this on purpose”.


96 posted on 03/27/2015 2:34:27 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Yosemitest

Sorry, but your sources are both just as “looking like a gossip column” as the OP.

“PI-News” means “Politically Incorrect News” - IOW, it’s a Drudge-like place that partly posts editorial-style.

Speisa which sources that looks just as good.

These are like WND at best. The wording is NOT at all simple reporting. It contains alot of speculation. It is really more an editorial site.

Not at all factual reporting!


97 posted on 03/27/2015 2:38:36 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: the OlLine Rebel

If you read the reports, they are able to deduce that he deliberately crashed the plane by the fact that he would have had to prevent the pilot from accessing the cockpit by actively overriding the pilot’s ability to enter a code to open the door. No sounds of struggle at all, other than the pilot trying to bash his way into the cockpit later, just the sound of Lubitz breathing. If it was a medical emergency, Lubitz would not have actively denied the pilot entry. One must read.


98 posted on 03/27/2015 2:49:14 PM PDT by IChing
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To: SuperLuminal

Because to intelligent people, people who actually read and discern truth, the facts are important.


99 posted on 03/27/2015 2:53:20 PM PDT by IChing
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To: lavaroise

For crying out loud, doesn’t anybody even read and comprehend the relevant material before commenting?


100 posted on 03/27/2015 2:55:36 PM PDT by IChing
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