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An open letter to the homophobic doctor and florist who humiliate LGBT families (Pretzel logic)
LGBTQ Nation ^ | March 12, 2015 | Rob Watson, Dad, LGBT activist, businessman and blogger, evoL =

Posted on 03/12/2015 1:37:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

A popular insurance company pays a great deal of advertising money to let everyone know that they are in fact “our good neighbors.” They populate commercial after commercial with cheery, miraculously at-your-service agents who care about their clients above all else.

While I am sure their real agents are customer relations friendly, the reality is they are likely no more so than any other public facing company. The associates, employed by the company, who personify saintly best friend types the most, are the actors in the ads.

The truth is, customers are not important loved ones in the lives of service people. We are, at best, friendly, tip-paying, lucrative transactions. We don’t represent go-to shoulders to cry on, we represent income, and even the warmest heart moving gesture is a business decision.

Likewise, as consumers, we are not buying advice, approval or input from those serving us.

The cashier at the local grocery store is not our equal partner in deciding how we feed our family and whether we are good parents or not. He or she does not get a vote in how we run our lives, instead, we look for that person to treat us professionally and with equal courtesy as they would all others.

Proponents of the conservative “Religious Freedom” strategy would have us believe differently. To them, a Christian business person is not only beyond a transaction based relation, they are an intimate who should have a personal say, and commentary on the lives of their LGBT clientele, lives in which most would say the business person has no stake.

This “commentary” usually comes in the form of rejection, judgment and the refusal of service. It is rude, and it is humiliating.

In some of these cases, these behaviors are not only mean-spirited, they are illegal and go against local non-discrimination laws.

Barronelle Stutzman, a florist in Washington, just lost in her bid to discriminate against two gay men wanting to marry. Her flowers had been sentimentally important to them in their romance, and her rejection soured their betrothal.

Others are legal, but wrong.

In a recent case a pediatrician, Dr. Vesna Roi, rejected lesbian moms and their baby as clients. She had been vetted and the couple felt protected and validated, then she shamed them for being who they were as parents. The family had no legal protection due to a failure in Michigan’s laws.

Such actions are legal in most states. Arkansas and Indiana have recently made moves to not only make sure discrimination is legal; they have taken steps to encourage it.

Refusing service to LGBT families when it happens is cruel and demeaning. The couples it happens to are blindsided. The rejection seems to be rigged like stink bombs going off in the moments that should be positive milestones in the family’s experience.

My letter to two who felt it was their place to degrade LGBT families:

Dear Doctor Roi and Florist Stutzman,

At this point, you have each served dozens of individuals, if not hundreds. Some of those you feel personally about, and intimate — they feel like friends. Others, the doctor needs to check their file to remember details, and the florist knows no more about them than their credit card number.

Looking back to the day when you each decided to work with the public. I have to assume that you went into business to bring happiness, comfort and a high level of satisfaction to whomever stood before you.

Instead, you have gained infamy for doing the opposite. You both behaved in completely heartless ways, and worse, called on Jesus Christ to justify it.

Your rationalization is as disappointing as your actions themselves.

You, Dr. Roi stated that you “prayed on” your decision to reject. It is sad that Christian theology has earned a reputation as being supportive of your lack of decency even though the Christ behind it dictated “loving ones neighbor as yourself,” and to do no harm to little children. He made these pronouncements in between the times he was admonishing people for judging others.

Ms. Stutzman, you claim that the act of selling a couple flowers for their commitment to marriage and declaration of life long love violates your “freedom to honor God doing what you do best.”

You earned money from the couple as part of their romance and seduction (and presumably sex). That income did fit into your “deeply held” religious principles, apparently. About those transactions you say you “kindly” delivered and “would gladly continue to do so.” Your principles therefore are not against gay sex, they are against life-long love, commitment, honor and responsibility.

While I do hope you re-examine your “logic” behind your actions, I am asking here for something more. I am asking you, and service providers like you, to stop attempting to humiliate LGBT families at the moments that should be the most respected and wonderful of our lives. Quit trying to take away our precious moments.

The Declaration of Independence, as Alabama Supreme Court Justice Roy Moore has pointed out, is about a principle that precedes our rule of law.

He, of course, wants that principle to be about a God that Roy Moore defines, but his overall point is valid. We each have the human right to pursue happiness in our personal lives, and we do not have the right to attempt to disrupt it in others.

When the Supreme Court of Massachusetts became the first judiciary to declare same sex marriage a constitutional right, they did so by making a significant observation. They pointed out that in a person’s lifetime, the spouse that person chooses is one of the most profoundly, self-determing actions that an individual can take.

Likewise, as we go through the process of bringing our families together, the decisions around the details of marrying including the right flowers, the right cakes, the best photography are all integral to the fabric of the memories we are creating. Those things may seem superficial, and in truth they ARE superficial to observers, and they have likely been so to YOU in most of your professional transactions. They are NOT superficial to the people involved. The young men wanted your flowers because of the role your arrangements played in their romance.

Your flowers did not bring meaning to the men and their love, their love brought meaning to your flowers.

Likewise, Dr. Roi, every first event with a baby is golden to new parents. The first laugh, the first burp, and especially the first forays into parental responsibility, the first doctor visits.

Both my sons were adopted out of the foster care system, and all our “firsts” were done with a back drop of pretty dire and dramatic events. Even with that, the moments were precious as we took on the profound understanding that these little lives were completely dependent on us, and the most important responsibilities we would ever have.

A pair of lesbian moms came to you, screened you, and extended you trust in their journey of parental responsibility. Their coming to you did not validate their parenthood, their patronage of you validated you as being worthy of trust.

God did not bring these couples to you so you could judge them. His intention was for you to experience your humanity by serving them. He intended to give you the gift of bearing witness to significant moments in their lives.

His intention was to enrich you. He failed. And, in being the professional you intended to be, so did you.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Government; Society
KEYWORDS: fascism; gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; samesexmarriage
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To: DiogenesLamp; Pikachu_Dad

I was an Army intelligence analyst starting at the young age of 17. It’s what I am.


21 posted on 03/12/2015 2:24:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Proving, yet again that homosexual "marriage" isn't about marriage at all, but about forcing society to accept homosexuality. Those who refuse to do so must be shamed at least, but better yet, destroyed.

None of this would be necessary if homosexuals weren't in an arrested state of emotional development to begin with. Adults understand that you don't surrender power over yourself to other people by giving them control over your feelings.

The correct response to: "Mommy, mommy! The mean old baker wouldn't bake my cake because he said I was sinning," from a responsible adult is a cute little ditty about sticks and stones that everyone used to know.

If homosexuals want to be taken seriously it's time for them to stop acting like three year-olds, and it's time for judges to stop validating their childishness.

22 posted on 03/12/2015 2:25:01 PM PDT by FredZarguna (O, Reason not the need.)
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To: FredZarguna

It’s going to get much worse before it gets better. If it ever does.


23 posted on 03/12/2015 2:26:11 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The pediatrician did not refuse. She deferred to someone who could do a better job in the same practice.


24 posted on 03/12/2015 2:29:09 PM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Pikachu_Dad
I was an Army intelligence analyst starting at the young age of 17. It’s what I am.

Same methodology. Find out what the enemy is saying so it can be exploited by our forces.

25 posted on 03/12/2015 2:30:09 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It’s going to get much worse before it gets better. If it ever does.

I figure it will. God usually just drops a nuke on a place that gets too bad. The trick is to be at a good distance from the place when he does it.

26 posted on 03/12/2015 2:31:43 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Steely Dan weeps...


27 posted on 03/12/2015 2:32:31 PM PDT by moovova
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
It’s going to get much worse before it gets better. If it ever does.

That is a direct result of the fact that we are regressing as a culture. Homosexuality does not concern me per se, any more than Barack 0bama concerns me per se. Neither the widespread acceptance of deviance nor the outrageous hostility to our constitution and Constitution would be possible if our culture was not increasingly vile, juvenile, obsessed with trivialities and apathetic toward things that really matter, and disrespectful of the sacrifices made by our forebears.

To me, the real question of interest is whether the dynamical trajectory we're on is the ordinary swing of the pendulum, or if, as seems increasingly likely, the downward spiral of circling the drain...

28 posted on 03/12/2015 2:37:28 PM PDT by FredZarguna (O, Reason not the need.)
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To: FredZarguna
Idiocracy was supposed to be a funny movie, not a prophecy.
29 posted on 03/12/2015 2:40:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Like this?

http://www.LivingInThePhilippines.com


30 posted on 03/12/2015 2:41:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Clearly this writer is using Alinsky tactics to push forward their perversity..


31 posted on 03/12/2015 2:44:36 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They want us to accept them, when they can’t even accept themselves.


32 posted on 03/12/2015 3:06:28 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wonder if this offends them:

Romans 1:..
22 Although they claimed to be wise, they became fools.. 25 They exchanged the truth about God for a lie, and worshiped and served created things rather than the Creator—who is forever praised. Amen.

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.

28 Furthermore, just as they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, so God gave them over to a depraved mind, so that they do what ought not to be done. 29 They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit and malice. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, God-haters, insolent, arrogant and boastful; they invent ways of doing evil; they disobey their parents; 31 they have no understanding, no fidelity, no love, no mercy.

Note also that Romans 1:32 points out that those who approve of such conduct are just as guilty as those who engage in it.

Lev 18:22 “You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination....

25‘For the land has become defiled, therefore I have brought its punishment upon it, so the land has spewed out its inhabitants.”


33 posted on 03/12/2015 3:07:08 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - a Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I have just been inside the mind of a truly insane and angry person. I’d rather be trapped in a honey bucket at the Texas hotsauce convention in August.


34 posted on 03/12/2015 3:08:09 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: kanawa

What they mean by “acceptance” is “approval”. Forget it.


35 posted on 03/12/2015 3:28:08 PM PDT by liberalism is suicide (Communism,fascism-no matter how you slice socialism, its still baloney)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Surely he could have found an excellent article ridiculing their idiocy.

Or written one and posted that.

We have to wade through enough of that filth on normal media.


36 posted on 03/12/2015 7:18:37 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Barronelle Stutzman, a florist in Washington, just lost in her bid to discriminate against two gay men wanting to marry. Her flowers had been sentimentally important to them in their romance, and her rejection soured their betrothal.”

That’s the first time I’ve read she soured their betrothal. I have read they didn’t sue her, the state of Washington did. Obnoxious writer.


37 posted on 03/12/2015 9:12:42 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: NetAddicted

I don’t understand how someone turning you down has anything to do with you not feeling good about your relationship to someone else? Is there some kind of extra-dimensional logic at play?


38 posted on 03/13/2015 5:09:43 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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