Posted on 02/28/2015 7:20:56 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum
Dogs are humanity’s oldest friends, renowned for their loyalty and abilities to guard, hunt and chase. But modern humans may owe even more to them than we previously realised. We may have to thank them for helping us eradicate our caveman rivals, the Neanderthals.
(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...
That German Shepherd is making money on the side. Notice? It is a cab.
lol yes... Though Rufus sometimes snores...
This is the ten year old story — regarding radiocarbon dating errors or purported errors — posted on FR in January (so, more than one month ago), and dated as if current, even though the actual story was from 2005. The mods very kindly added the “[2005]” to the headline after that was reported, the bogus date on the story was left as-was.
History of modern man unravels as German scholar is exposed as fraud [2005]
The Guardian | 01/14/2015 | Luke Harding in Berlin
Posted on 01/14/2015 9:55:35 AM PST by SeekAndFind
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3246787/posts
I didn’t do it on purpose. It showed up on Disqus and I thought it was current. My apologies.
:’( No, yours is fine I believe. :’)
Thanks for the link, now I know we are talking about Professor Reiner Protsch von Zieten, former director of the Institute of Anthropology and Human Genetics for Biology at Goethe University in Frankfurt.
His work was exposed as fraudulent, and he was fired, in 2004.
Protsch's work had nothing to do with DNA analysis, but rather faked carbon-14 dating of a very few relatively modern specimens to appear much older and Neanderthal-like.
His work had nothing to do with actual Neanderthal remains, only with more modern remains he pretended were much older.
Other than the sensation it caused, the effect of Protsch's work on science itself was virtually nil.
Conservapedia also notes the following about "Professor Reiner Protsch von Zieten":
I think my husband was more than 4% Neanderthal. He was a light blue eyed redhead and body, very strong, long torso, short legs, very hard head (in more ways than one ;-) ), faint brow ridges, receding chin, crystaline hard teeth, very hairy including one shoulder, quick temper, warrior temperament, superb hunter. He was 1/16th Cree (Canadian) Indian, and most of the rest was Scottish. I don’t know if much population DNA study has been done on outlying groups like Canadian natives or Scots, but it makes sense that Neanderthals might have survived longer in such places. In fact many Scots and neighbors have what is known as the “ginger gene” which would improve utilization of the sun for Vitamin D formation and better female pelvic structure for childbearing.
He died at age 75 from Alzheimer’s. After caring for him throughout his decline and death, I have a hypothesis for one aspect of Alzheimer’s. Some information: There appear to be several genes associated with Alzheimer’s. One aspect of the condition is the tendency to wander. This was a real problem for 1 or 2 year, but in the last year when he was more helpless it stopped. There is some evidence that it is more likely to be transmitted in the mother’s line. His mother had dementia. She was 1/8 Cree Indian. In the last 3 years if he wandered off he could not find his way home. However, until the last 2 months, he could do repetitive jobs like sweeping the sidewalk, raking the moss, and sawing a piece of wood if I started the cut (we built a small cabin together). He was most likely to wander if he was hungry. I really had to watch him while fixing meals, and give him a little plate of snacks and keep him in the kitchen.
I have heard stories saying that elderly Indians were very altruistic because in the winter/starving times, they would go off and die, thus leaving more food for their families and the tribe. My hypothesis is this: The wandering behavior resulted in elderly tribal people wandering off to find food or pee, and then they could not find their way home and died, especially in cold winters. Although this result would not be motivated by self-sacrifice, it would still result in more food for children and grandchildren, and thus if it was genetic be passed on.
I would be very interested in any thoughts or experiences related to this idea, as I think about ways to research this.
I would appreciate your thoughts on my Comment #67. Nice map.
I tried to include you in my list of FReepers for Comment #67, but I kept being told that they have no record of ansell2. Opps, I now see it is ansel12. Anyway, appreciate your thoughts on #67.
Illness and injury killed most in what we would consider "prime of life".
Nevertheless, there were a few who lived to a ripe old age, also I don’t know if people dying from early onset Alzheirmer’s would behave the same as my husband and others I have known of who had later Alzheimer’s. Remember, average life expectancies include the many who died early. In fact, in my husband’s case, his grandmother or great grandmother, not the Cree Indian line, lost 4 of her 8 children (lived in southern Illinois, 1800s) around the age of two in August or September. Probably a result of death from weaning in the hot weather with no refrigerated food or milk.
At any rate I should think that any Neanderthal who lived to be that old would be especially strong, smart, and capable. If the Alzheimer’s genes are carried in the female line, then she could be the mate of such a successful male, live longer, and have more surviving children with all his good genes too. In other social group animals, it seems that the alpha male often is mated with the alpha female in the group.
In the case of my husband, I don’t know if he would have brought any food back if he had found some. I do know that as soon as I fed him, he was happy enough to sit and watch TV. He did retain a desire to put things away. I was repairing the roof on our little cabin, and he kept trying to put the ladder away. As soon as I saw it move I would have to crawl to the edge, and ask him to put it back because I was still up there. He could only remember things for 10 or 15 seconds at a time.
Almost a description of me! I even have extra teeth. 4 extra ones, like a shark, sitting behind my other teeth like a layer (if they find my body a thousand years from now, I will be classified as definitely some kind of a cave-man). Though I've never hunted. I have Irish on my father's side of the family. Also Alzheimer's in the family as well. Hopefully I don't wander off anywhere.
Hey; food’s food man. A dog’s gotta eat you know.
If I am dead, I ain’t using the meat house any more.
That's a good. Thanks.
BTW, click on my name to see my ‘wolf pack’. The current ‘pack’ is on the top. I use that truck to go to the woods for a walk each day...they love it. The truck is 22 years old, runs great.
Sheldon weighs about 130 and snores like a freight train passing through.But then so do I,drives my wife crazy sometimes.
Like Alzheimer’s sufferers, autistics & schizophrenics also have a tendency to wander, basically going into their own world. Probably all three have similar brain structure. (Just my unscientific opinion.) It would be hard to know if this were also prevalent among Neanderthals.
Twice the weight of Rufus... The walls must shake.
My older son, the larger, heavier one who is in Special Forces had 6 wisdom teeth. When we went to have them extracted the nurse asked if he had any esquimo ancestry. He is also dark eyed and dark haired. Do you have some native American ancestry? What tribes and percentage? The thing the puzzled me at first was that while my husband had light clear blue eyes, and I had greenish hazel eyes, both my sons had very dark brown eyes. Since the light blue eyes are supposed to be completely recessive, the only thing I can figure, is that I have oriental dark eye recessive gene from my Prussian German petty nobility ancestors on my mother’s side. The mongolian tartars conquered as far west as Poland and East Prussia which is where her parents came from.
If you do end up with Alzheimer’s you will have to be watched after you can no longer find your way home but before you become physically disabled. For my husband it was about 2 1/2 years in that phase. While his mother had dementia around the same age, my husband had received several several blows to the head which some feel can be a contributing factor. I think his symptoms started a bit earlier than hers.
Perhaps it has just started making the rounds on the YEC websites.
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