Posted on 02/25/2015 2:05:45 PM PST by Freedom56v2
Seattle may be more liberal than gay Frisco and Portland. In early 1990’s a younger relative moved to Portland and his best friend moved to Seattle.
At that time they were both moderate independents. In a decade, both were very liberal.
During the next decade our relative started seeing the reality and the grim weather. He moved back to a conservative area near where he grew up.
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He is now a conservative. His former friend is a Seattle union thug liberal, and his wife is a left wing Eco freak, who makes a lot of money enforcing Eco economic terrorism.
For the first two years back here, our younger relative would go back to Portland for vacations or invite friends down. Now, he stays in this area and doesn’t invite his former friends to freeload off him. The one conservative he knew up there, an uncle of a former friend retired a couple of years ago and moved near our relative. Like our relative he has severed all relationships with former friends and relatives in the Portland area.
She’s interested in Seattle,for heaven’s sake....not Johannesburg or Bangkok or Mexico City.
A friend’s daughter headed off to Cambodia last year.
It’s great to be young.
As I said, she will seek input in all likelihood, and I want to be able to provide useful perspectives...and FR offers very unique ones—vastly different than my coffee klatch, for example. I am concerned because so many liberals in government have now become radicals, and, for example, I really don’t want her announcing she is going to begin a program in women’s studies at Evergreen....
BTW, she was in Mexico City last summer for a week attending a wedding—trip of a lifetime. No problems
LOL Thanks for the input. Love your tagline BTW :)
So there really is a Lenin statue? I saw several references, but just thot joking!
I’ve lived in the Seattle area for a number of years. I now live on what’s called the “Eastside” (east side of Lake Washington - Seattle is on the west side of it). While it does rain here quite a bit, it usually doesn’t pour like it does in some areas; and, the Spring and Summer seasons are beautiful and usually not much rain in summer and early fall. And, it stays green in the winter.
There is lots to see and do, both culturally and outdoor activities. As others have mentioned, it can be pricey, but I think that can be the case in almost any large cities; and, bike riding, hiking, etc. is free. There are 2 large lakes, many smaller lakes and lots of parks.
There are a lot of very good healthcare facilities in an near Seattle. Because of that, there are also a lot of pharmaceutical and healthcare equipment reps. There are also research organizations, such as the Hutchinson Cancer Center. I did a search on bing.com for healthcare facilities and research centers near Seattle and here’s a link to one of the items that came up. I just looked at the 1st page, and there are some doctors listed, too, but it will give you an idea of how many facilities there are:
http://www.yellowpages.com/seattle-wa/medical-centers
My family and I are all conservatives as are various members of my extended family. I normally only talk politics with them or a few co-workers who I know are conservative.
Best of luck to you and your daughter!
Thanks1 A lot of helpful and insightful information. Daughter likes outdoors stuff—biking, hiking, swimming (she swam in college), skiing, etc. Wow, lots of facilities. Thanks. She is going out there in August for wedding, so she will have an opportunity to look around and check out employment and recreational and living opportunities.
I live in the Kent-Auburn area, well, actually I’m up on the Enumclaw plateau.
It’s pretty good here. But then I don’t commute, and rarely go out. But I have a few local friends.
Lenin? Yes. It is in an area known as Fremont.
The scenery is beautiful, but this is literally bluer than any place in the US. It is irretrievably liberal, and every aspect of it defies both logic and the conventional rules of capitalism.
Every major industry in Washington State is backed in whole or in part by Uncle Sugar. They are all massive companies protected in their positions by friends in government.
As for all the venture capital, only 0.4 percent is going anywhere. My Dad showed me a start up (2010) the other day - Nextdoor.com.
This one is based in SF, but it has major Seattle money behind it. It’s facebook for neighborhoods. You join on behalf of a neighborhood. You get the other people in your neighborhood to join. They verify you are actually a part of that neighborhood.
For free, you can chat amongst yourselves, alert each other to crime, let someone you know you have something to give away or sell, etc. Nobody else can see it but folks in your neighborhood.
You can’t use an alias.
Guess what they just came out with?
Neighborhood for Government Agencies!!!!
Huge money is behind it. Nobody pays a nickel, including, they say, the government types, and there is no advertising.
Yet they just got another infusion of huge money last year.
It’s all bad up here.
We still make amazing planes, and we have Airbus on the ropes, but without the Export/Import bank, the whole thing would fold.
The papers all came to their senses about Jay Inslee being governor, and the ALL, every one of them EXCEPT the one in Olympia (the black heart of it all) endorsed Inslee.
He won anyway.
We are a gangrenous limb. Boeing is in the process of moving to South Carolina, but it will take another decade for them to fully pull it off. They are the ONLY thing propping the place up for the middle class.
There is so much stupid money pouring into all these startups it boggles the mind. It’s like nobody cares if any of it hits or not.
The reason for all the robots is because when Boeing leaves, nobody but robots will be able to afford living here. Rent on a studio apt in Seattle is now over a kilobuck.
If your child is mercenary, this is the place. Get in, make a buck, and get out. Else head for Oklahoma, South Carolina, or Kentucky. Beautiful places to live, and the people still have their heads screwed on straight.
I’d leave in an instant if I didn’t have my inlaws slowly dying here. It’s one of the meanest places I’ve ever lived in, and that’s after living two years in Manhattan, a year in Florida, most of my life in CA, and four years in CT.
I thought CT was bad. Western Washington is horrible. Now, you go east for just one hour, maybe two, and everything changes completely. It’s literally the polar opposite. I love Eastern WA. Even Spokane.
I lived in Seattle for over 45 years and left four years ago to a small farm in central KY I purchased 6 years ago. I have three adult daughters that live in Seattle. Two Downtown and one near lake city way near I-5.
Reasons I left:
1. Politics. You really give up your freedom to live there. And they ignore the will of the people. Even when there is a referendum (People voted to put Kingdome by southcenter. City put it south of downtown anyway. People voted to not build Safeco field. City built it anyway. Etcetera.)
2. Traffic. This is the biggie. I’ve had two separate friends visit and they both said the same thing: It looks like the city expands retail and living quarters and then says, “Gosh, should we build some wider roads? Naw, People will get used to it”.
You have to plan outings around traffic seven days a week.
I bicycle commuted in Seattle for a couple of decades but stopped because texting drivers made it too dangerous.
And one other thing, and a person from New York summed this one up really well. The people in Seattle seem friendly but that is not what it is. They are not “Friendly”. They are “polite”.
Now the positive: IT is a truly beautiful area and there are some great parks. One Christmas day my wife and I went to the tip of the Alki Beach area and watched Killer whales just offshore. There are some awesome little neighborhood communities. We liked to go Downtown at 6:00 on Saturday mornings and watch the Pike Place Market open up and see the people getting and setting up their booths. We’d walk around the Westlake park area and enjoy a Starbucks or Tully’s coffee as we walked around. We would leave before nine so we didn’t have to pay for parking or fight any crowds.
And Freemont is a fun place. There is a place called the White Rabbit. On monday nights the Michael Shrieve band plays there. Michael was the drummer for Santana at Woodstock. The most amazing clip from the movie is his drum solo. He’s gotten better his whole life and his band matches him. They are a serious treat - assuming they are still doing it.
The red hook brewery is also west of Freemont. It’s fun.
Oh, and south lake union has become totally Amazon territory. I think they hire a lot of cheap young people that populate all the apartments in that area. It’s very “hip” there. But at my age (61) I’ve been there, done that. I like to watch the subtle young professional pompousness as a sort of comedic side show. They think they are so “smart and worldly” that it really is kinda fun to watch. Like a living Woody Allen movie.
And then there is the stuff outside of Seattle. Hiking, biking trails, etc. But I ramble.
Frankly, I like Kentucky even more, but if you are young and really want to soak in the urban life and what it has to offer, Seattle is one of your best choices. I like Louisville better but that is because I like its size. Frankly, Knoxville TN might be even better. But both are “just right”. I like to say that, size wise, louisville is to seattle what seattle is to chicago what chicago is to new york.
But the key is that Louisville really doesn’t have the traffic issues (It has them, as do all cities, but not much) and the government is MUCH less intrusive than it is in Seattle.
Oh, and there is no income tax in Seattle, but the sales tax is over 10%.
South Texas is a concern for sure.
Houston, Dallas & San Antonio are pretty much sanctuary cities and hubs for illegals moving on to other destinations.
...the surrounding communities are more conservative.
...but it appears that if you are not leftist, you will feel out of place.
That is DEFINITELY true. I thrive on it, though. However, you can lose your job over it, especially if you are young. The reason is that the younger you are, the less skill you have in knowing when NOT to say things like Al Gore is a nincompoop.
No, I’m not kidding.
I have talked to her about being careful about politics in professional setting...(that started in college altho she had conservative professors who spouted off quite a bit).
PS: Here’s a partial list .... Laurelhurst, Windemere, the Highlands, Montlake/Broadmoor, Magnolia Bluffs, parts of West Seattle/Alki ..
Thanks!
You can most assuredly lose your job in Seattle over ideology. This is FACT.
However, if you cross the 520 bridge and get a job in Bellevue, you have a shot.
Best bet - live in Eastern WA.
From Seattle down to LA needs to be trimmed off.
The scenery is beautiful, but this is literally bluer than any place in the US. It is irretrievably liberal, and every aspect of it defies both logic and the conventional rules of capitalism.
Every major industry in Washington State is backed in whole or in part by Uncle Sugar. They are all massive companies protected in their positions by friends in government.
As for all the venture capital, only 0.4 percent is going anywhere. My Dad showed me a start up (2010) the other day - Nextdoor.com.
This one is based in SF, but it has major Seattle money behind it. It’s facebook for neighborhoods. You join on behalf of a neighborhood. You get the other people in your neighborhood to join. They verify you are actually a part of that neighborhood.
For free, you can chat amongst yourselves, alert each other to crime, let someone you know you have something to give away or sell, etc. Nobody else can see it but folks in your neighborhood.
You can’t use an alias.
Guess what they just came out with?
Neighborhood for Government Agencies!!!!
Huge money is behind it. Nobody pays a nickel, including, they say, the government types, and there is no advertising.
Yet they just got another infusion of huge money last year.
It’s all bad up here.
We still make amazing planes, and we have Airbus on the ropes, but without the Export/Import bank, the whole thing would fold.
The papers all came to their senses about Jay Inslee being governor, and the ALL, every one of them EXCEPT the one in Olympia (the black heart of it all) endorsed Inslee.
He won anyway.
We are a gangrenous limb. Boeing is in the process of moving to South Carolina, but it will take another decade for them to fully pull it off. They are the ONLY thing propping the place up for the middle class.
There is so much stupid money pouring into all these startups it boggles the mind. It’s like nobody cares if any of it hits or not.
The reason for all the robots is because when Boeing leaves, nobody but robots will be able to afford living here. Rent on a studio apt in Seattle is now over a kilobuck.
If your child is mercenary, this is the place. Get in, make a buck, and get out. Else head for Oklahoma, South Carolina, or Kentucky. Beautiful places to live, and the people still have their heads screwed on straight.
I’d leave in an instant if I didn’t have my inlaws slowly dying here. It’s one of the meanest places I’ve ever lived in, and that’s after living two years in Manhattan, a year in Florida, most of my life in CA, and four years in CT.
I thought CT was bad. Western Washington is horrible. Now, you go east for just one hour, maybe two, and everything changes completely. It’s literally the polar opposite. I love Eastern WA. Even Spokane.
I will mention Spokane too.
Having lived in Tennessee, we often went to the Carolinas—beautiful, but whether she would just set off to an area where she knows no one, I am not sure.
Thanks for the information :)
I called the tunnel “big dig west” when I lived in Seattle and they were considering it as one of the options. It cracked me up when they decided to go with it. And gee, look at it now. ;-)
I sold commercial real estate in the early 80’s in downtown Seattle and lived in the south end and east side of King county. I also worked at Blue Cross up north and bought a motorcycle specifically so I could use the HOV lane for that contract. My wife and I have discovered pretty much every nook and cranny of Seattle and the entire county, not to mention all the surface streets you can use to bypass some of the rush hour.
When I lived near Paul Allen’s house on south Mercer Island I would bicycle commute to Safeco in the U-district. It was typically a 48 minute bike ride. It was a 56 minute bus ride. That’s Seattle in a nut shell.
Let’s just say that the abundant amount of small plastic baggies I stepped over, and noticeable signs warning people of bad “batches of heroin” to look out for, made for a quick exit from that part of town.
From what I gather, living in the city is very costly. Even in the hippie areas like the Capital Hill neighborhood, you are easily looking at rents like you find in Manhattan, but that’s because all of the big tech companies are building like mad right next door, and there is a university in the area as well. It’s a wonderful view, but it will cost you!
I recall taking the train from SeaTac Airport and seeing some fairly decent middle-class neighborhoods along the way. Nothing fancy, and very affordable-looking. That’s likely the best bet for anyone looking to live close, and not have to fight the highway traffic which looks like a royal pain to navigate! The train goes right into the heart of the city and is still expanding south of the airport. It’s only a 30 minute train ride from there.
Since Seattle is a very touristy place, prices were a bit steep for food and other items, but not prohibitively so. Cant wait to visit again someday!
You’re very welcome! August is usually beautiful here and warm.
Here’s a link to some things to do around Seattle from TripAdvisor. The Ducks tour is fun, but it’s about $45. There are Groupon coupons and I believe a City Pass. If she’s here for a wedding, etc., she probably won’t have time to do pay for type tours, and IMHO they’re not necessary, at least now.
http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attractions-g60878-Activities-Seattle_Washington.html#TtD
If you have any questions, just FReepmail me.
Best,
SC
My sister-in-law’s brother graduated the University of Alabama with a degree in computers. Computer sciences? Anyway, he immediately found a job out in Kaliforniastan. He had been raised in church his entire life. Now she has found out he is a homo. Just broke her heart. She could not understand how he could turn his back on everything he ever had. He did not break the news to her until after their mother died. Right after we came back from WA state, he came for a visit. We were over at my brother’s house for a Sunday lunch. Her brother was there, and when we arrived, he came over and said hello and offered his hand shake. His hands felt like a woman’s hands and his grip was like a 90 year old’s. So soft you thought you might break his fingers. I knew then he was gay. My sister-in-law told my wife some months after that lunch that her brother was gay. My wife told her we already knew that. She said how did you guys know. My wife told her I could pick 8 or 9 out of 10 gays. He had all the mannerisms. After living around them all those years, you just pick up things. The way they talk, buzz words, hand shake, body actions, movements, etc. You just learn and 95% of the time, I am right. The object of this, is, that when someone goes into those areas, where that life style is, this kid was a skinny, whinny guy. It was easy for him to become some homo’s little boy. And he did. The guy he lives with is the man in the relations ship. He fell into the homo trap and became one. Now he is going to hell’s furnace because of his lifestyle and his years in Church will not save him.
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