Exposing The First Birther [Who was the first person to say that Obama was born in Kenya?]

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Exposing The First Birther

Posted on January 17, 2015 by stevengoddard

Birthers are evil people who say that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. The first birther was almost certainly Barack Obama.

From 1991 to 2007, his literary agents promoted him as being born in Kenya. The only plausible place they could have gotten his bio from is from Barack Obama himself. There was no Internet in 1991. When someone wants a bio, they say “write a short paragraph about yourself.” It is implausible that his bio came from anyone else, or that his agents would have wasted time trying to pull together information about some recently graduated college kid’s birthplace and background.

Miriam Goderich of Acton & Dystel says that she didn’t do adequate fact checking, but she never said whose facts it was she was checking.

So why would Obama lie about his birthplace? If you ask that question, progressives call you a birther. (Queue in the usual progressive scumbags.)

1991

Born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii’

2004

Kenyan-born Obama all set for US Senate

2007

http://web.archive.org/web/20070403190001

[WildHighlander57]

Adding to previous post:

And defer to Fantasywriter on the microfilm tampering.

[Fantasywriter]

Just a slight correction. No handwritten ‘form’ was ever found by Abercrombie or his small army of searchers. He was informed that something was ‘written down’ but no ‘form’ was mentioned. As noted in a prior post, the item ‘written down’ was most likely the birth registered by Grannie Dunham; i.e.: the one she claimed to be for Stanley Ann, though Madelyn could supply no address for her daughter. Maddy used her own address instead, despite the fact that Stanley Ann never lived there.

[Fantasywriter]

I could never follow the ‘tampering’ discussion; it was too entailed for the amount of time I had available to devote to it.

Otoh, why would tampering be necessary? If Grannie Dunham registered a birth, then the announcements would have appeared in the papers. Why would anyone subsequently need to tamper with them?

[Fred Nerks]

All that would have been necessary is for someone to remove the birth data for the dead girl and replace that document with a fake.
Number 41 should have been a Wahiawa birth.

[cynwoody]

Nobody’s suggesting Madelyn Dunham actually birthed this child, are they? That would be a bit too weird for me, and for a lot of other people too.

No, but I have seen the theory that Grandpa Dunham is actually Zero's daddy, by a black mommy he met through his friendship with Frank Marshall Davis.

A cockamamie theory to be sure, but nevertheless a highly amusing fantasy.

[Fantasywriter]

Such a theory has one advantage. Namely, that at least the father would have been living at the address listed in the announcements. As matters stand, neither the father, the mother nor the baby ever lived there. An honest anti-birther would admit that this is a problem. But I have yet to meet a single honest anti-birther.

[cynwoody]

If someone does have the physical hardcopy original of their birth announcement, that shows the lines above and below it, they should video it & have a friend put it up on you tube.

That would generate more questions than answers.

A better recommendation would be to scan the clipping at 600 dpi on a flatbed scanner and post the resulting the image. It will be large, but most people have broadband these days, and the result will be like going over the clipping with a jeweler's loupe.

[WildHighlander57]

“.... Otoh,why would tampering be necessary? If Grannie Dunham registered a birth,then the announcements would have appeared in the papers. Why would anyone subsequently need to tamper with them? ...”

Good point.

Clarification:

Earlier, when I referred to the something written down that abercrobmies investigators found in the archives, I was thinking of a hand-filled out form for a registration of home birth, as opposed to the usual all typewritten LFBC except for signatures at the bottom.

[WildHighlander57]

Do both. That way one can see the original in its entirety and also the closeup of the same.

[Fantasywriter]

‘Earlier, when I referred to the something written down that abercrobmies investigators found in the archives, I was thinking of a hand-filled out form for a registration of home birth, as opposed to the usual all typewritten LFBC except for signatures at the bottom.’

Thanks for that clarification. It would be a big help if any HI officials were honest. We know they are not, however. We learned that when CNN announced that all paper LFBCs had been ‘discarded’ and ‘no longer existed.’ Had there been a single honest official connected with such records, he/she would have asked CNN to make a correction on that story. If CNN had refused, the official would have clarified it him/herself.

But HI was up to its eyeballs in covering Obama’s butt, and fully endorsed CNN’s ‘the birther issue is now officially dead’ ‘news story.’ HI is as rotten as a liberal-dominated-for-decades state ever gets. Obama couldn’t have asked for better partners in crime.

[cynwoody]

Such a theory has one advantage. Namely, that at least the father would have been living at the address listed in the announcements.

The likelihood is that Stanley Ann used her parents' 6085 Kalanianaole Highway as her address for official purposes, even though she didn't spend may nights there, if any.

When I was in college, I lived at a bunch of addresses. But I always listed my parents' address (850 miles away in my case) as my official address. LOL! Good thing I didn't sire a commie president!

[cynwoody]

Do both. That way one can see the original in its entirety and also the closeup of the same.

Agreed.

Someone also should also photograph the clipping from several angles with a decent digital camera and post the photos.

You may recall, that was done with Zero's minutely questioned short form. But, sadly, the birfers drooled spittle all over the pix. I predict a similar result, should any actual physical newspaper clippings turn up.

[WildHighlander57]

“...CNN announced that all paper LFBCs had been ‘discarded’ and ‘no longer existed.’ ...”

Find out when that pic was taken, of the archives with shelves full of binders labelled ‘births’, and compare to when CNN said that the paper copies had been discarded.

Betcha CNN is lying.

[Fantasywriter]

Your evidence-free theory just happens to shore up Obama’s lie-filled fiction memoir, Dreams from my Father. How convenient...for Obama.

Those of us who prefer facts to Obama-friendly guesswork aren’t buying. If Stanley Ann had an address in HI during her pregnancy someone somewhere would know about it. Multiple Obama-friendly biographers have beaten every bush in Honolulu without finding a trace. Just because someone wishes to posit the most Obama-friendly fact-free speculation possible does not make it true. Facts trump speculation, and the fact is there is zero evidence of Stanley Ann’s presence in HI from Feb. 2 1961 [and even that evidence is sketchy and questionable] until she reappeared for spring classes in ‘63.

Also, no matter what she used her parents’ address for—and we have only your guesswork that she used it for anything—she would have given her actual address upon giving birth. That is not an occasion to list an address at which one has ***never*** resided. The whole point of the exercise is to list the address at which one is living.

The lengths Obots & others will go to in order to justify Obama’s fairytale Dreams narrative is simply astounding.

[Fantasywriter]

There’s no question that CNN broadcast a lie. The point is that they specifically noted that ‘Hawaiian officials’ had confirmed their story. Thus it was HI, not CNN, that originated the lie, and they did so in an effort to save Obama’s foreign-born butt.

Anyone who doubts HI originated the lie, please link to the time and date that a Hawaiian official corrected the story. (Hint: ;it never happened. HI was complicit up to the gills.)

[cynwoody]

Also, no matter what she used her parents’ address for—and we have only your guesswork that she used it for anything—she would have given her actual address upon giving birth.

Was that where she was when she conceived? Was that where she was when she left for the hospital to give birth?

Have you considered that she might have been too embarrassed to give her actual address to the person typing into the form? That she simply reflexively gave out 6085?

That she never considered how badly that would screw up the mind of one FW more than half a century later? Too bad she didn't live to see it!!

[Fantasywriter]

‘Was that where she was when she conceived?’

What a weird question. (1) it has no answer, and (2) it’s irrelevant.

‘Was that where she was when she left for the hospital to give birth?’

Not according to Cindy Pratt. Pratt says Stanley Ann “never” lived there. Plus, Pratt was interviewed by a lefty-lib major Obama fan, Maraniss. If Maraniss could have pried any Obama-friendly info out of Pratt, he’s have done so. As it is, he softens the blow as much as possible by saying Pratt doesn’t “remember” baby Barry being brought into the house. As if that’s something one would (1) not notice, or (2) forget.

No, Maraniss did everything he could to support Obama’s narrative. It’s just that the truth, which Maraniss ended up having to report [otherwise the people he interviewed might have pointed out that he printed the opposite of what they said] shot the legs out from under Obama’s lying lies.

‘Have you considered that she might have been too embarrassed to give her actual address to the person typing into the form?’

Lol. I can’t believe I’m reading this. So your new theory is that Stanley Ann couldn’t give out her real address for shame. Another Obama-loving evidence-free theory, courtesy of an alleged non-Obot. [Truth: I don’t believe you’re an Obot. But I also don’t believe how far you’re willing to go to justify a pathological liar. But hey, it takes all kinds.]

‘That she simply reflexively gave out 6085?’

So she ‘reflexively’ gave out an address at which she never lived, and at which we have no evidence she even visited. That goes beyond even grasping at straws. I cannot conceive of ever being so desperate to support Obama’s lies that I would shimmy that far out on such a thin limb. I just hope you’re not typing things tonight that will embarrass you tomorrow...if you get my drift.

‘That she never considered how badly that would screw up the mind of one FW more than half a century later? Too bad she didn’t live to see it!!’

And birthers are accused of being the irrational ones. Thanks to Alinsky, black is white and up is down. (I.e.: I’m the ‘crazy birther,’ but I’m sticking to the facts, and you’re the ‘rational’ anti-birther, and your makig things up left and right, and flailing for a straw, any straw, to grab onto.) Thankfully, only a few conservatives buy into Alinsky’s views.

[cynwoody]

You're staking a lot on her connection to 6085 Kalanianaole Highway. You posted 20 lines and 408 words on the topic.

Fact is, it doesn't matter. It's the address she gave, but any other address in the area would have sufficed equally.

It is as irrelevant to the birther cause as it is testimony to your obsession. Please get help.

[WildHighlander57]

I agree with what you said about the lie began with hawaii officials.

Now I gotta find that pic of the hawaii archives with shelves full of binders labelled ‘births’ & figure out when it was taken.

If it was after they claimed they hadn’t paper copies anymore....

[Yosemitest]

You might find this helpful.

Obama’s lawyer, Alexandra Hill, admits image of Obama’s birth certificate was a forgery

After a six-month forensic examination which determined that the image of Obama’s alleged 1961 Certificate of Live Birth posted to a government website in April, 2011 is a digital fabrication, Obama’s lawyer, Alexandra Hill, admitted that the image of Obama’s birth certificate was a forgery