Posted on 12/18/2014 5:24:05 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica
1964 Taft v Goldwater.
It started with John Adams, our first liberal President (although an argument can be made that Washington beat him to that title). Human nature rears its ugly head.
The feud between Thomas jefferson and Hamilton in Washingtons Cabinate.
“I’ll show you your masses—they are just asses!”
Alexander Hamilton.
The modern battle of C’s vs E’s began with the 1964 campaign. Goldwater supporters versus Rockefeller establishmentarians.
My opinion: when the business interests that fund the establishment Republicans started pushing amnesty and more HB-1 visas as the economy tanked in 2007, caring more about cheap, pliable labor that Americans who needed jobs more.
Several events around the same time.
1952 GOP nomination being given to Eisenhower vs. Taft
Then the 1953-4 McCarthy HUAC hearings, which were slapped down by Eisenhower.
Are you thinking of 1952?
These were the serious nominees in 1964:
Goldwater
Scranton
Rockefeller
Romney
Hiram Fong and Margaret Chase Smith never got traction....
I’m thinking it was in 1912, when Theodore Roosevelt decided to run as a third-party candidate under the Progressive “Bull Moose Party.” He split the Republican vote, so that Taft lost the presidential election to Woodrow Wilson — the first Progressive academic to defile the Presidency.
When they tried to take the microphone away from Ronald Reagan.
Where and when did this conservative vs establishment battle begin?
1976 - Ford vs Reagan
I stand corrected. But they really got nasty toward Reagan.
There is no choice left but to withdraw all support for the GOP and let the chips fall where they may.
Sixty conservative Republicans in the House could end Boehner’s rule by threatening to change party affiliation to Independent & refusing to caucus with the Pubs.
Five conservatives in the Senate could do the same thing to McConnell.
Both actions together would end the dominance of the Pub ruling elite, who are far more interested in maintaining their power & influence than doing anything good for America.
I suspect conservative Americans would back this defection overwhelmingly. The GOPe does not represent conservatives, therefore there is NO reason to support the GOP.
Note that the Whig party was replaced by the Republican party in less than 10 years.
Very informative history, well written with valuable links. Thanks for posting.
What makes today different is the surge in Independent voter registrations. In 2012 Independents comprised 24% of the electorate. In 2014 they comprised 42%. That’s an enormous increase and today they make all the difference. Who owns them? No one.
There’s a tendency for democrats and republicans to think Independents are somehow in the mushy middle, that they are moderates. This is wrong.
Who will Independents follow? In my analysis 2/3’s of them will follow Ted Cruz.
Ted Cruz with 2/3’s of the Independents, all of the Republican Conservatives, the Blue Collar Perot Demographic, the Reagan Democrats and half of the Latino-American vote will win by 58% to 60%.
See Genesis(KJV).
There were NO “McCarthy HUAC hearings”!
“There were NO “McCarthy HUAC hearings”!”
Surely, comrade, you must remember when the nefarious McCarthy hi-jacked the House Committee and led a crack force of G-men into Hollywood and terrorized America’s creative community with a blacklist.
History must serve the future, comrade.
Well before the Romans . . . apparently. Lost in the Mists of Time, I think. The term “Liberal” is of more recent vintage; stolen by Democrats from the liberality of Jefferson’s and Madison’s ideas. The Liberal arguments, however, are as old any of the rationalizations of Establishment, looking to control the People.
Thanks for the BEEP!
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