Cost of ObamaCare for Virginians on Bronze Plan

Canada Free Press ^ | 11/29/14 | Dr. Ileana Johnson Paugh

[Sean_Anthony]

Because many doctors and hospitals have been dropped from ObamaCare, their services are not eligible for ObamaCare payments. What would happen to their patients who are now suddenly forced into ObamaCare?

The Affordable Care Act specifies in Section 1401of its voluminous content that subsidies cannot be paid to people residing in states that do not have a State Exchange. The decision was upheld in the D.C. Federal Circuit Court and the Supreme Court will make a decision in June 2015.

In the Commonwealth of Virginia, no subsidy will thus be paid on the 80 percent of subscribers’ premiums who enrolled in ObamaCare and are eligible for subsidies. And the 2015 costs of these premiums have not been made public until November 15, 2014, conveniently after the November election.

Using the calculator on the ObamaCare website for the Bronze Plan (a plan with a 60 percent reimbursement rate after deductibles have been met) for a Preferred Provider, Thomas L. Cranmer, Vice President of Fairfax County Taxpayers’ Alliance, determined that a northern Virginia family of four would pay “at any income a deductible out of pocket of $12,600 and a premium of $7,224 per year. The total $19,824 represents 40 percent of $50,000 and 20 percent of $100,000 gross income.”

[I am Richard Brandon]

"the Supreme Court will make a decision in June 2015"

Try as I may, I cannot accept this delay. Is it not said the "Justice delayed is justice denied." 7 months - seriously? That negates a whole insurance cycle.

[MUDDOG]

In the Commonwealth of Virginia, no subsidy will thus be paid

I think the court ruling was put on stay. The subsidies continue for the time being.

[Sasparilla]

The American public was lied to in order to foist incredibly high costs upon us. Isn’t socialism wonderful.

George III didn’t even take this much money from individual colonists.

[pieceofthepuzzle]

This is exactly what happens when you have know nothing arrogant people like Gruber having input into things they no little to nothing about - though from his own words he clearly thinks he knows better than the average American. Sad. Very sad. What has happened to American medicine is devastating, and IMHO we have just begun to see the negative impact. We are going to need to ‘reform the reform’.

[sheana]

“at any income a deductible out of pocket of $12,600 and a premium of $7,224 per year. The total $19,824 represents 40 percent of $50,000 and 20 percent of $100,000 gross income

So 40% of $50000 income goes to healthcare if you get sick. How is that affordable and that would bankrupt a lot of people.

[SpaceBar]

Gold, silver, and bronze plans. Even unconstitutional (illegal) compulsory health insurance is a tiered caste system.

[randita]

I’m a Virginian. My premium for a silver level policy will go up 60% if I choose to renew. Sen. Kaine’s response to the premium increases is 1) apply for a subsidy (I won’t qualify) and 2) sponsor a bill to allow a “copper” level policy. IOW, Kaine has no solution.

[pieceofthepuzzle]

“So 40% of $50000 income goes to healthcare if you get sick. How is that affordable and that would bankrupt a lot of people.”

It's a joke. The reality is, from my perspective, that if you have a family of four with young children you are likely all at an age that shouldn't require you to have extensive coverage (e.g. you probably aren't on a ton of meds, and are not dealing with the types of medical issues that generally arise later in life). What you need is coverage for the unfortunate unexpected high-cost illness. That shouldn't cost a ton of money.

[headstamp 2]

Sh** plans to cover the cost of freebies to the gimsmedats.

[headstamp 2]

“What you need is coverage for the unfortunate unexpected high-cost illness. That shouldn’t cost a ton of money. “

Yep, otherwise known as a catastrophic policy. They are illegal now under Sh**Care.

[DJ MacWoW]

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[Nifster]

The premiums have to be paid....the deductibles do not. If one just says screw it I will not go to the doctor because I can’t afford it then people will once again use the ER for extreme cases that could have been handled for less money and resources had routine health care been available.

The delusion that the ACA had ANYTHING to do with healthcare or insurance seems to persist. The ACA was about government control period paragraph end of story

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[sheana]

Well I agree with that. I think insurance should be like car insurance. All the routine maintenance stuff you pay for and then if an actual illness appears it pays.
Would make it cheap since it was rarely used.

[Manta]

There should be a separation of state and economics just as there is a separation of church and state

[oldtech]

Just heard Juan Williams on FOX News this morning saying something to the effect that Americans should be thankful for Obamacare(not his exact words probably).

[Qiviut]

Check out the following (scroll down the link until you get to “Heath Care Sharing Organizations”):

http://selfpaypatient.com/selfpayhealthcaremarket/

Health Care Sharing Organizations

Sharing organizations are voluntary associations of people who agree to share medical bills between them, similar to insurance. They are typically less expensive than conventional health insurance, and for some ministries members are exempt from paying the Obamacare tax for being uninsured.

Note: a relative (in Virginia) was being charged $1,850/month premium for a family of four (deductible was about 12K). His health care sharing “responsibility payment” will be about $500 for the family. Do your homework, but the savings are there if you are/live a Christian lifestyle & there is now one for Catholics.

[sheana]

We are not Christians and hubbys insurance which is a lot more than mine is through his company retirement. There aren’t many other options out there for us until he turns 65 and is eligible for medicare.
Believe me I have looked.