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What Gun Did the Ottawa Terrorist Use?
Gun Watch ^ | 25 October, 2014 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 10/24/2014 6:51:56 PM PDT by marktwain


This twitter post showed Zehat Bibeau with what appears to be a Winchester lever action rifle.    At first, it was unclear if this were the same firearm that he used to shoot Cpl. Cirillo.  

The BBC quickly came up with an identification of the firearm used - a Winchester lever action shotgun!  From the BBC:

He said police were trying to piece together how Zehaf-Bibeau acquired a Winchester lever-action shotgun, as he was banned from owning firearms due to his criminal convictions.
 Then the Ottowa Sun took a shot at the subject.  From the Ottowa Sun:
Police still don't know how he got his hands on the Winchester 3030 pump-action rifle he used to gun down Cpl. Cirillo at the War Memorial.
The National Post finally got it right.  From the Nationalpost.com:
 At a Thursday press conference, RCMP commissioner Bob Paulson confirmed that Zehaf-Bibeau had carried out the shootings with a Winchester 30-30 lever action rifle, a quintessentially Canadian bush gun that is not normally the first choice of would-be terrorists.
Here is a clearer picture of the model of rifle used.  This is a Winchester model 94, made prior to 1964, in caliber 30-30.


I would be remiss not to mention a source form the United States.  From wyomingnews.com:
Police said he was armed with a lever-action Winchester rifle, an old-fashioned, relatively slow-firing weapon.
The 30-30 was considered a powerful and quick firing rifle in its day.   President Teddy Roosevelt was rather impressed with it.

 He acquired an 1894 similar to all his other rifles in extras and embellishments and used it on an antelope hunt. His "little .30" as he called it, was able to knock down a good sized antelope at a distance of more than 180 yds. After witnessing the fantastic shot and the irrefutable and immediate results, his guide said that the gun was just "aces" in his book.

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KEYWORDS: banglist; canada; jihadist; nathancirillo; ottawa; terrorist
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To: marktwain

I have a model 99 Savage in .300 Savage. It is strong, fast and accurate.


21 posted on 10/24/2014 7:17:43 PM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: marktwain

You can tell the writers don’t know much about rifles. The Model 94 kicks up after a shot, so it is hard to keep on target when shooting. Make the first shot count. It is also very good in the brush with a 170 grain bullet.


22 posted on 10/24/2014 7:23:14 PM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: wjcsux

I got a Winchester 94 in 25-35 that has been in the family since the Oklahoma land rushes in the 1890’s. It was bought specifically to guard the two brothers adjoining land claims while one was in town filing the claims.

Still shoots like a sweetheart but shows its decades of use around the farms until the 1940’s, a real working rifle that really hung over the front door, just like in the movies.


23 posted on 10/24/2014 7:30:43 PM PDT by biff (WAS)
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To: Ditto

Typically, the tube magazine is able to hold 9 to 13 rounds of the previously mentioned handgun calibers. The magazine capacity depends on the length of the barrel, as the tube magazine (located below the barrel) typically covers the entire length of the barrel.


24 posted on 10/24/2014 7:33:20 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Ditto

I have a replica of a Model 1873 Winchester that holds 16 rounds plus one in the chamber, you can keep feeding in more rounds as you fire.


25 posted on 10/24/2014 7:35:33 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The one in the picture looks pretty small.

How bizarre, if he did it on the cheap.


26 posted on 10/24/2014 7:35:34 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: biff

My Great Grandpa, William Padget had a model 92 in 25-20. Not nearly as powerful as the 25-35 but he killed a man in a shoot out with it.

He was as innocent as a lamb but was convicted of manslaughter and sentenced to 20 years in Raiford. Fortunately the Governor realized an injustice had been done and gave him a full pardon.


27 posted on 10/24/2014 7:40:25 PM PDT by yarddog (G)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Because they’re ignorant?


28 posted on 10/24/2014 7:42:32 PM PDT by x1stcav (Leftism is like rust. It corrodes twenty-four hous a day.)
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To: marktwain

I wouldn’t be surprised if this terrorist didn’t get ahold if this weapon through Eric Holder Fast and Furious program.


29 posted on 10/24/2014 7:48:39 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici
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To: Tijeras_Slim; Straight Vermonter; marktwain
The shooter was from Montreal. His mama works in both Montreal and Ottawa as deputy chairperson of a division of Canada's Immigration and Refugee Board. Typical of GouvFedCan, MANY government organizations have 'head offices' located in Quebec, to appease the French, but also Ottawa offices, as they are only 120 miles apart.
30 posted on 10/24/2014 7:55:31 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: marktwain

These Yoder’s HOT flavored pork cracklins are delicious.


31 posted on 10/24/2014 8:02:40 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew (Even the compassion of the wicked is cruel.)
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To: biff

SWEET! Lever guns are nice. My grandfather had an 1873 Winchester in .44-40. Wish it was still in the family.


32 posted on 10/24/2014 8:08:59 PM PDT by wjcsux ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." - George Orwell)
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To: yarddog

Wouldn’t be my first choice but I wouldn’t feel unarmed if that’s what I had.


33 posted on 10/24/2014 8:10:59 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: marktwain

Wow. A lever-action assault rifle.

I want one.


34 posted on 10/24/2014 8:22:43 PM PDT by moovova
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To: marktwain

Back during the clintoon “Assault Weapons Ban” I acquired a Marlin 1894 in .44 Magnum that holds 10 rounds in the tubular magazine. It is short, light, accurate, reasonably fast, and quite powerful. IMHO it is one of the best traditional weapons available and the hoplophobes haven’t picked up on it yet because its not black, no pistol grip, no bayonet lug, etc. I keep it loaded with 300gr Hornady XTP’s over a stout charge of H110 powder. Works for me.


36 posted on 10/24/2014 8:24:08 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED.)
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To: 43north

I had a Marlin model 94 in 32-20. I liked it but needed money so I advertised it for $350. It was like new and I had maybe a dozen people ask about it after I had sold it.

I should have asked for more.


37 posted on 10/24/2014 8:27:43 PM PDT by yarddog (G)
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It has come to light that the night before the attack, this clown visited an aunt who happens to live in a rural, hunting-familiar town located several hours northeast of Ottawa. Quite possibly he acquired the rifle there, whether legally or not. One has to wonder if he ever fired a weapon before this event, his use of the weapon proved rather ineffectual (after his first entirely unexpected shot in the back at the War Memorial).


38 posted on 10/24/2014 8:28:22 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell (Pray for the restoration of a strong and free USA)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Because it sounds so much cooler and in-the-know.


39 posted on 10/24/2014 9:06:32 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: yarddog

I’ve got the ubiquitous Marlin 336 30/30. The new Hornady ‘Leverrevolution’ plastic-nose bullets are a real ballistic improvement over the old ‘core-loct’ soft points.


40 posted on 10/24/2014 9:50:06 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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