Posted on 10/24/2014 6:51:56 PM PDT by marktwain
This twitter post showed Zehat Bibeau with what appears to be a Winchester lever action rifle. At first, it was unclear if this were the same firearm that he used to shoot Cpl. Cirillo.
The BBC quickly came up with an identification of the firearm used - a Winchester lever action shotgun! From the BBC:
He said police were trying to piece together how Zehaf-Bibeau acquired a Winchester lever-action shotgun, as he was banned from owning firearms due to his criminal convictions.Then the Ottowa Sun took a shot at the subject. From the Ottowa Sun:
Police still don't know how he got his hands on the Winchester 3030 pump-action rifle he used to gun down Cpl. Cirillo at the War Memorial.The National Post finally got it right. From the Nationalpost.com:
At a Thursday press conference, RCMP commissioner Bob Paulson confirmed that Zehaf-Bibeau had carried out the shootings with a Winchester 30-30 lever action rifle, a quintessentially Canadian bush gun that is not normally the first choice of would-be terrorists.Here is a clearer picture of the model of rifle used. This is a Winchester model 94, made prior to 1964, in caliber 30-30.
Police said he was armed with a lever-action Winchester rifle, an old-fashioned, relatively slow-firing weapon.The 30-30 was considered a powerful and quick firing rifle in its day. President Teddy Roosevelt was rather impressed with it.
He acquired an 1894 similar to all his other rifles in extras and embellishments and used it on an antelope hunt. His "little .30" as he called it, was able to knock down a good sized antelope at a distance of more than 180 yds. After witnessing the fantastic shot and the irrefutable and immediate results, his guide said that the gun was just "aces" in his book.
Nice rifle, I’d love to find a .357. Lever’s are highly underrated.
Tough $hit for him.
It may be a Henry .22. It looks pretty small.
The Rifleman and numerous present day entertainment shooters prove different.
Reloading? kinda slow..
Bump
Nice thing about a lever, you can keep your target while cycling another round. Of course it’s not a semi but in speed a lever is #2.
That’s why the Sheriff’s office had a rack of ‘em. Plus one’s wench could always be reloading the spare rifle.
How could he get one? It was illegal. Didn’t he know? He must not have or he wouldn’t have used one to kill people.
That is what I thought when I first saw that photo and saw the hammer. I figured a lever action hunting rifle, But they said he shot 30+ rounds inside the Parliament building.
I thought a Winchester held maybe 6 or 7 rounds. Am I missing something? How many times did he have to reload to get that many rounds off?
A pump can be as fast as a semi-auto but it takes a real expert to do that. I once saw a guy (he was a Texas Ranger) fire a model 870 so fast that it might have been faster than most full autos.
A model 92 or 94 would make a pretty decent rural guerrilla weapon. It is not that fast but can be kept stoked from loose ammo carried in pockets.
Shoot one, load one.
Arrrghhh!!
With practice, the loading time can be greatly improved.
Why is he referred to a “Montreal terrorist”?
They were considered to be a fast reload in their day. That is why they have a loading port on the right side. You can top off the magazine by slipping in cartridges from loose rounds in your pockets, while keeping a round in the chamber.
If there is a pause in the action, slip in 3 or 4 rounds.
Why do they call a magazine a clip?
The 1873 and 1892 are pretty speedy. I live about 6 miles from the Single Action Shooting Society Founders Ranch and these folks could have laid out all the “fast guns” of the west with no problem.
This yahoo probably was slow, but a lever gun is fast in the hands of an expert.
There are a couple over at gunbroker. Also several in 44 magnum.
http://www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?Keywords=marlin+lever+357
www.gunbroker.com/All/BI.aspx?Keywords=marlin+lever+44
Why is he referred to a “Montreal terrorist”?
Because he was a terrorist, and Montreal is the location that ties him to the event.
The guy who killed the soldier with a car was in Montreal. The shooter was in Ottowa.
I used to have a Browning model 92 in .44 mag. It could be reloaded quickly tho it would have been rough on the thumb.
In a shootout I doubt if you would even notice.
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