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Frustrated Parent Posts Ridiculous Common Core Math Question that Teaches to Solve 7x5 in Six Steps
Pundit Press ^ | 10/22/14 | Aurelius

Posted on 10/22/2014 7:10:56 AM PDT by therightliveswithus

A concerned parent posted a picture of their third grader's common core math homework yesterday. Frustrated, they called the homework "ridiculous."

Just how ridiculous? Third graders are now being taught how to multply single digit numbers using six steps.

Common Core is the over-complication of simple problems.

So, how do you solve 7 times 5? You don't just solve it quickly in your head. You don't count by seven five times.

Instead, you are supposed to break five into two smaller numbers. It doesn't explain why you don't break seven down, but students are supposed to instantly know that five needs breaking down.

Then, you decide how big the numbers you want to be from that 5. So let's say it's a 3. You then subtract 3 from 5 to get 2.

Then you write out 7 x (3 + 2), which I think looks much, much more complicated than 7 x 5. Then, you multiply 3 times 7 to get 21. After that, you multiply 2 times 7 to get 14. Finally, you add 14 plus 21, to get 35.

You can see the problem (and additional ones) below:

Dumb Common Core

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TOPICS: Politics
KEYWORDS: brooklyncollege; commoncore; education; laurierubel; math; mathematics; miseducation; newyork; newyorkcity
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To: Rebel_Ace

It would be nice to think they are doing this to introduce higher concepts, but that isn’t the truth. It boils down to kids who aren’t learning the multiplication tables. They can learn song lyrics and how to play video games, but for some reason current thought in teaching is that kids can’t memorize multiplication tables. Of course this is BS. All changes to math have ocurred to make up for lack of parental participation helping their children learn. All kids are being held back to stay with the dumbest/laziest in the class.


21 posted on 10/22/2014 7:31:34 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Tactical Firearms,Katy Tx: "the two enemies of guns, rust and politicians")
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To: Alex Murphy

funny you should mention microsoft as Bill Gates money funded the beginnings of Common Core.


22 posted on 10/22/2014 7:31:42 AM PDT by wita
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To: DannyTN
If the next page is something like
7x16=7x(10+6)=7x10+7x6=70+42=112.
then you may be right. On the other hand everything I've seen about common core is generally muddleheaded without any real focus.
23 posted on 10/22/2014 7:32:31 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (The IRS: either criminally irresponsible in backup procedures or criminally responsible of coverup.)
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To: therightliveswithus

What the hell happened to memorizing the “times tables”?


24 posted on 10/22/2014 7:33:55 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: Right Brother
how can you know that the products of 21 and 14 are produced by 7 x 3 and 7 x 2?

They can count on their fingers and toes to get to 14. The boys can get to 21 which is why boys are better at math than girls. :-)

25 posted on 10/22/2014 7:35:18 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (The IRS: either criminally irresponsible in backup procedures or criminally responsible of coverup.)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
"It would be nice to think they are doing this to introduce higher concepts, but that isn’t the truth."

I agree. That is why I said that I would bet the instructor showing this lesson could not identify the underlying concepts that make it "work".

It is almost as if the educational establishment wants to muddy up the waters of lower (K-6) education by baffling the kids with material that is not, as wita said, "not age appropriate".
26 posted on 10/22/2014 7:36:55 AM PDT by Rebel_Ace (My wife told me to update my tag, so I did.)
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To: therightliveswithus

How ridiculous! They should be taught the traditional method - to multiply 1/5 by 1/7 and then take the reciprocal.


27 posted on 10/22/2014 7:40:33 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: RJS1950
The lazy, lamebrain part of my generation who didn’t bother to learn the basics and are now administrators, education experts, and senior teachers made up these techniques because they did such a crap job with their students who are now teachers.

I worked for a number of years, in the Jr High ministry at my old church. All my guys are now adults, with the older ones over 35.

One of my guys is an educator. He'd send me emails that you wouldn't believe. Spelling, sentence structure, punctuation, all terrible.
I mean TERRIBLE.

You would honestly think English was a second language to him.

I know he's got his masters, not sure about his doctorate. Last I heard from him, he claimed to be a school principal.

I pointed out his terrible grammar and spelling, and he just laughed it off, saying he has a secretary to take care of things for him.

Hey, I'm just a dumb construction worker. I don't have an advanced degree or high position anywhere. But I'm at least relatively competent at grammar and spelling. At the very least, if having problems with spelling, I can use spell check.

The way he came across, he was almost proud of his incompetence.
(By the way, despite my best efforts in his youth, he still became a liberal, who now lives in Minneapolis...where he fits in perfectly)
(He grew up reached the lawful age of adulthood in Illinois, near Chicago. Went to college in California, near LA. Now lives in Minneapolis.)

28 posted on 10/22/2014 7:41:23 AM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: therightliveswithus
Does this present generation of government/union/pseudo-intellectuals--living in a nation founded by brilliant and well-read thinkers whose passion for individual liberty, under a written constitution to limit coercive government power such as that these "progressives" are imposing--actually believe that such nonsense, imposed by teachers who, themselves, by and large, come from the lower ranks of college students, will enable children to develop their critical thinking skills?

How do they think that America, in just 200 years or so, came from using the crude tools of their ancestors to putting a man on the moon?

Teach children that they are endowed by their Creator with unalienable potential and rights, arouse their enthusiasm for learning, their curiosity and thirst for knowledge, teach them to read, write, and do basic arithmetic, then stand back and watch them achieve!!

That's what teachers did across the wilderness of America for its first 100 years.

For children, the true "common core" of their educational experience should be focused on teaching them of their value as individuals and the principles for preserving their Creator-endowed rights to "pursue happiness."

The following is excerpted from an essay entitled, Will the Great American Experiment Succeed?":

"Liberty cannot be preserved without a general knowledge among the people...said John Adams. And Thomas Jefferson declared: "Whenever the people are well-informed they can be trusted with their own government...The boys of the rising generation are to be the men of the next, and the sole guardians of the principles we deliver over to them."

Early generations of Americans were taught the principles upon which their nation had developed its Con­stitution. The Founders believed that the real security for liberty would be a people who could understand those ideas which are necessary to preserve liberty and who could perceive approaching threats to their freedom. For that reason, a primary purpose of the schools was to teach boys and girls to read and write so that they could study the ideas of freedom. A popular textbook for children was entitled "Catechism on the Constitution." Written by Arthur J. Stansbury and published in 1828, it contained questions and answers on the principles of the American political system.

Tocqueville's Democracy In America , written in the 1830's, described America's aggressive process of univer­sal education on the Constitution and the political process:

"It cannot be doubted that in the United States the instruction of the people powerfully contributes to the support of the democratic republic; and such must always be the case, I believe, where the in ­ struction which enlightens the understanding is not separated from the moral education ...." The American citizen, he said, "..will inform you what his rights are and by what means he exercises them .. In the United States, politics are the end and aim of education ... every citizen receives the elementary notions of human knowledge; he is taught, moreover, the doctrines and the evidences of his religion, the history of his country, and the leading features of its Constitution .... it is extremely rare to find a man imperfectly acquainted with all these things, and a person wholly ignorant of them is a sort of phenomenon .... It is difficult to imagine the incredible rapidity with which thought cir ­ culates in the midst of these deserts [wilderness]. I do not think that so much intellectual activity exists in the most enlightened and populous districts of France."


29 posted on 10/22/2014 7:41:37 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: therightliveswithus

All the people on this thread are clearly “math deniers”.
Common core is settled arithmetic.

/s


30 posted on 10/22/2014 7:42:08 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Rebel_Ace

Our former school district in PA had started using “spiral math” - where they would introduce a new concept but not do repetitive practice. They would just stick something into the daily work and it was confusing to the kids. Later, they theorized the kids would say, “oh I remember seeing something like that last October!” - but it only worked that way with kids who might have already understood the concept when it was briefly seen. The parents complained a lot - we couldn’t understand why the tried and true method of learning a math concept then drilling it over and over with pages of work and maybe even, gasp!, homework couldn’t be done. I think racism and feminism and gay rights were involved in there somehow..... ;^)


31 posted on 10/22/2014 7:43:44 AM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Tactical Firearms,Katy Tx: "the two enemies of guns, rust and politicians")
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To: therightliveswithus

What idiot created this “common core” craziness? They ought be flogged, tar and feathered, and put into a stock for all to throw rotten tomatoes at.


32 posted on 10/22/2014 7:43:48 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Islam is the Whore of Babylon!)
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To: therightliveswithus
What is really funny is that the people who put this stuff together and squeezed it through state houses, actually thought that they had everything in place to avert the wondering eye of parents who know how to do math.

Math is one of those things that the commie-libs have had a difficult time hiding the fact that math deals with right and wrong answers and any attempt to change that is noticed right away.

You can goof with English, social studies and history, but math can not be secretly fudged.

33 posted on 10/22/2014 7:50:59 AM PDT by Slyfox (Satan's goal is to rub out the image of God he sees in the face of every human.)
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To: wita
...and adults who think this is rigorous and smart stuff, don’t have a clue.

Well, that most people on this thread don't understand what's going on tells me THEY don't have a clue. Or maybe they just want to complain about common core and don't know enough to know the math part is fine.

The entire premise of the thread is straw. The intent of the "worksheet" is not to teach multiplication as indicated in the "article". Not at all.

So arguing that it's not a good way to learn multiplication is, well, publik skewl lojic.

34 posted on 10/22/2014 7:54:49 AM PDT by Principled (Obama: Unblemished by success.)
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To: bigbob

Or do it like we did with slide rules: logarithms

3x5 = 10^(log(3)+log(5)) = 10^(log(3.5)+1) = 35

(log is the logarithm, base 10)

Of course, you would then have to memorize the log table or have one in front of you.


35 posted on 10/22/2014 7:56:00 AM PDT by kosciusko51 (Enough of "Who is John Galt?" Who is Patrick Henry?)
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To: kosciusko51
LOL

Of course, you would then have to memorize the log table or have one in front of you.

They have calculators now the size of postage stamps that have logs base n so no tables needed ;(

36 posted on 10/22/2014 8:00:26 AM PDT by Principled (Obama: Unblemished by success.)
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To: therightliveswithus

BOOKMARK


37 posted on 10/22/2014 8:01:59 AM PDT by DFG ("Dumb, Dependent, and Democrat is no way to go through life" - Louie Gohmert (R-TX))
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To: ThomasMore

This is the math training required to make people believe in anthropomorphic global warming.

It is no coincidence this comes from the same crowd.


38 posted on 10/22/2014 8:02:06 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: DannyTN

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Common Core puts the cart before the horse.

Children should be taught the basics first then tricks and other ways of looking at a problem.

Kids need to memorize the times tables. It’s a basic skill set that needs to be acquired.

These methods make children intellectually hollow.

They are left not understanding why things work.

I swear, all of CC seems to operate under the notion that everyone who lived before now was an idiot and had no idea what they were doing.


39 posted on 10/22/2014 8:06:48 AM PDT by servo1969
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To: therightliveswithus

Holy crap!...We were just told to memorized this!


40 posted on 10/22/2014 8:08:06 AM PDT by AngelesCrestHighway
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