Posted on 10/20/2014 4:14:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
Barack Obama and the head of the CDC need to quit saying that we know exactly how Ebola spreads. Because the truth is that there is much about this virus that we simply do not know. For example, a top Ebola scientist that is working in the heart of the outbreak in Liberia says that this version of Ebola looks like it could be "a very different bug" from past versions. Other leading scientists are echoing his concerns. And yet Barack Obama and Thomas Frieden continue to publicly proclaim that we know precisely how this virus behaves. Not only is that bad science, but it could also potentially result in the unnecessary deaths of a very large number of people. For example, Obama has refused to implement an Ebola travel ban because he is greatly underestimating the seriousness of this virus. This decision could turn out to be incredibly costly. If what you will read about below is true, we could be dealing with some sort of "super Ebola" that nobody has ever seen before.
Peter Jahrling of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease is on the front lines fighting this disease in Liberia. He is one of the top authorities in the world on Ebola, and what his team has been seeing under the microscope is incredibly sobering...
Now U.S. scientist Peter Jahrling of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease believes the current Ebola outbreak may be caused by an infection that spreads more easily than it did before.
Dr Jahrling explained that his team, who are working in the epicentre of the crisis in the Liberian capital of Monrovia, are seeing that the viral loads in Ebola patients are much higher than they are used to seeing.
He told Vox.com: 'We are using tests now that weren't using in the past, but there seems to be a belief that the virus load is higher in these patients [today] than what we have seen before. If true, that's a very different bug.
'I have a field team in Monrovia. They are running [tests]. They are telling me that viral loads are coming up very quickly and really high, higher than they are used to seeing.
'It may be that the virus burns hotter and quicker.'
Other top scientists are making similar observations.
The following comes from a recent article posted on Washington's Blog...
The head of the Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy at the University of Minnesota – Dr. Michael Osterholm – is a prominent public health scientist and a nationally recognized biosecurity expert.
Dr. Osterholm just gave a talk shown on C-Span explaining that a top Ebola virologist – the Head of Special Pathogens at Canada’s health agency, Gary Kobinger – has found that the current strain of Ebola appears to be much worse than any strain seen before … and that the current virus may be more likely to spread through aerosols than strains which scientists have previously encountered.
I have posted video of that talk on C-Span below...
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But even if we were dealing with the exact same strain of Ebola, that does not mean that our leaders are telling us the truth when they say that it is not an airborne virus.
Just check out the following quotes from top scientists about the spread of Ebola from a recent Los Angeles Times article…
Dr. C.J. Peters, who battled a 1989 outbreak of the virus among research monkeys housed in Virginia and who later led the CDC’s most far-reaching study of Ebola’s transmissibility in humans, said he would not rule out the possibility that it spreads through the air in tight quarters.
“We just don’t have the data to exclude it,” said Peters, who continues to research viral diseases at the University of Texas in Galveston.
Dr. Philip K. Russell, a virologist who oversaw Ebola research while heading the U.S. Army’s Medical Research and Development Command, and who later led the government’s massive stockpiling of smallpox vaccine after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, also said much was still to be learned. “Being dogmatic is, I think, ill-advised, because there are too many unknowns here.“
And I have written about this before, but so many people don't know about this that it bears repeating. The following is an excerpt from a news story about a study that was conducted back in 2012 that demonstrated that the Ebola virus can be transferred from one animal to another animal without any physical contact whatsoever...
When news broke that the Ebola virus had resurfaced in Uganda, investigators in Canada were making headlines of their own with research indicating the deadly virus may spread between species, through the air.
The team, comprised of researchers from the National Centre for Foreign Animal Disease, the University of Manitoba, and the Public Health Agency of Canada, observed transmission of Ebola from pigs to monkeys. They first inoculated a number of piglets with the Zaire strain of the Ebola virus. Ebola-Zaire is the deadliest strain, with mortality rates up to 90 percent. The piglets were then placed in a room with four cynomolgus macaques, a species of monkey commonly used in laboratories. The animals were separated by wire cages to prevent direct contact between the species.
Within a few days, the inoculated piglets showed clinical signs of infection indicative of Ebola infection. In pigs, Ebola generally causes respiratory illness and increased temperature. Nine days after infection, all piglets appeared to have recovered from the disease.
Within eight days of exposure, two of the four monkeys showed signs of Ebola infection. Four days later, the remaining two monkeys were sick too. It is possible that the first two monkeys infected the other two, but transmission between non-human primates has never before been observed in a lab setting.
So when Barack Obama and Thomas Frieden get up and tell us that they know with 100% certainty that Ebola is not airborne, they are lying to you.
There is so much about this outbreak that we simply do not know.
Our public officials should be honest about that.
Instead, it seems like they are flying by the seats of their pants and just saying whatever they think will keep everyone calm.
We are potentially facing the greatest health crisis of this generation, and bad science and false assurances are not going to help anyone.
Sadly, Barack Obama just continues to make bad decision after bad decision. This includes his very foolish decision to send thousands of U.S. troops right into the heart of the Ebola death zone.
It is being reported that these troops are only going to get just four hours of Ebola training, and the Pentagon is saying that they "will only need gloves and masks" to protect themselves...
Troops from the 101st Airborne Division leading the military response to Ebola in West Africa will only need gloves and masks to protect themselves from the deadly virus, so said Gen. David Rodriguez at a Pentagon briefing Wednesday.
“They don’t need the whole suit – as such – because they’re not going to be in contact with any of the people,” the commander of U.S. troops in Africa said.
Soldiers from the 101st Airborne will primarily be building hospitals, ultimately leading what could be a contingent of 4,000 American service members. They’ll be housed either in tent cities at military airfields or in Liberian Ministry of Defense facilities, Rodriguez said.
Soldiers’ health will be monitored through surveys and taking their temperature on their way in and out of camps. If a service member does get sick, Rodriguez said they will be flown home immediately for treatment.
Who is going to be held accountable when these young men and women start coming home sick?
So far the federal response to this Ebola crisis has been a parade of incompetence.
And yet we continue to be told that "everything is under control".
I don't know about you, but I have a bad feeling about all of this.
"And yet we continue to be told that "everything is under control".I don't know about you, but I have a bad feeling about all of this.-2ndDivisionVet
With you there. Just take a quick glance at the shift in headlines since 5:30PM
A new study underscores the potential danger of airplane passengers infected with Ebola leaving West Africa: If there were no exit screening in place, researchers estimate that three people with the disease might fly out of the region each month.
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(CNN) -- Up to three Ebola-infected travelers might board an international flight each month in West Africa, according to a new study, and potentially spread the deadly virus to other countries.Scientists used a model to predict that, on average, three people who are infected with Ebola will leave Guinea, Liberia or Sierra Leone in each of the coming months to fly to another country.
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Something is up . . .
In West Africa, they don't have good hospitals or even good living conditions. So, it is common for ordinary people such as Duncan to come in contact with very contagious cases. In many cases, they may be too ignorant even to know the danger. This appears to be the case with Duncan, since he resisted the idea of seeking treatment when he became ill in Dallas.
Unlike what the CDC morons are saying, such a measure would have no effect on the ability to deal with the disease in Africa. Returning relief workers are a manageable problem.
Dr. C.J. Peters and Dr. Philip K. Russell with all of their experience and that Klain guy is in charge of overseeing the fight against ebola?
They are not releasing data after October 14 — WHO and the CDC both have previous data, but they are withholding more recent data. And, they aren’t releasing any data about Liberia.
Something smells in Western Africa, and it is not just rotting bush meat.
Maybe Hussein picked Klain so he could be his golf partner. After all, Klain has already missed two high level meetings on Ebola. My mistake - Klain probably already knows all there is to know, he is, after all, a flaming lib!
anyone else notice how much the last month resembles the beginning of some of the SyFy channel zombie movies?
I dunno...
What I DO know is casting absolutes into results of a lab setting ran by animal handlers and who-knows-who after hours is hysterical.
To presume the outcome of the so-called experiment was completely human-error-free and conclude it was airborne has no supporting evidence in the field.
I’ve looked at that and the Reston case and I can’t help but wonder: If nurses were so ‘careless’ to infect themselves, could animal laboratory assistants making minimum wage possibly have cross-contaminated food and/or water?
It’s a valid question. I see absolutely no evidence it’s airborne (yet).
Thus, when absolute statements from the Administration come out declaring “We know EXACTLY how this virus behaves”...
...I come back to my prior conclusion that this is all a manufactured crisis with a severe measure of both incompetence and treachery.
Keep cool heads: Focus on the government & elections, not the bug (as I believe its ‘arrival’ was intended to do).
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Of the government response to this ‘crisis’, there’s a perfectly-fitting phrase from a movie about a bunch of monkeys and a football that I cannot quote here...but of course I’m racist for even suggesting it, right? /s
SEN. TED CRUZ DISCUSSES EBOLA WITH CANDY CROWLEY
He responds with such common sense and leaves Candy speechless, just eager to go to another question.
Ted Cruz is presidential material.
http://www.nationalreview.com/node/390677/print
They still don't understand the virus. They think some persons may have some immunity.
I learned something last winter about a bad virus that hit in my area. I got so sick I had to go to the ER twice in two days to be re-hydrated. I've only been that sick one other time and I was 12 then 45 years ago.
My wife who is far more susceptible to viruses and bacterias only got a mild touch of it. If she had the severeness I had it could have possibly killed her. The ER doctor asked her what blood type she was. I took her to the ER when she first showed symptoms. She is AN Negative I'm type O. He said Type O patients get hit hard by that virus and AB did not. BTW they also think as an infant she had a mild case of Polio that went undetected. Strange.
Try this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxPnjgU1Q68
"We should stop issuing travel visas from Liberia, which, interestingly enough, the neighboring countries in Africa have done."
Minor nit: the screening at the Monrovia airport does have one useful purpose, even though it obviously failed to keep Duncan from traveling. Consider how much worse it might have been if Duncan had been sick and shedding viruses when he boarded that flight to Brussels.
Yes and let us not forget FX %he Strain. Also looks like alot of shows has this “end of the world” theme too.
So pigs can be carriers of Ebola zaire ? Better eat your bacon while you still can.
That's a reasonable statement. However, don't forget Occam's Razor. No need to posit exotic mutations when a simple explanation (inadequate gear and sloppy removal/decontamination procedures) explains what's going on.
Really interesting article in the New Yorker (can’t post to FR) about the mutations of ebola.
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/10/27/ebola-wars
Duncan was very sick when he finally left that apartment, so there is no question about how infectious he must have been. But were the people in the apartment with him ever at any real risk? ....
No not at any risk at all as planned.
It’s the wons October surprise, the ‘JV’ Ebola just like he said so, Yeaah makes him look good and sooo smart yes sir ree.
And to think that his CDC would dare have a wardrobe malfunction and mess up his narrative. That’s what he’s mad as hell about.
Ted Cruz not in your link
As I posted on another thread, there will be a big slow roll orchestrated by the administration when it comes to releasing any new ebola infection reports.
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