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Did you know a handgun could expire?
Cheaper Than Dirt ^ | September 24, 2014 | Dave Dolbee

Posted on 09/28/2014 3:07:17 PM PDT by Twotone

Did you know a handgun could expire? If not, you are probably not from California.

Effective January 1, 2001, no handgun may be manufactured within California, imported into California for sale, lent, given, kept for sale, or offered/exposed for sale unless that handgun model has passed firing, safety, and drop tests and is certified for sale in California by the Department of Justice. Private party transfers, curio/relic handguns, certain single-action revolvers, and pawn/consignment returns are exempt from this requirement.

This is the California-compliant tactile loaded chamber indicator.

Before a new handgun can be sold in California, it must first be certified. Certification in California requires that all handguns to be submitted for “testing” — a process that often ultimately results in the firearm being dropped and later destroyed. Worse yet, every model, caliber, color etc. has to have multiple units submitted making the process extremely costly to the manufacturer. Then, after the manufacturer has made the decision to bite the proverbial bullet and eats the cost to receive certification, the clock starts ticking. According to the logic of California’s rabidly anti-firearms ownership lawmakers, a model that was tested and approved must to be recertified after a period of time, run through the exact same series of tests to prove it still does what the design did when the testers drop tested them the previous time.

It is, by loud and above-board government design, a very frustrating and expensive process causing multiple major manufacturers to forego the California market altogether while others must very significantly increase the cost of California Compliant models. Retail cost often triples. There is a point to reporting on the certification other than demonstrating, yet again, the dangers of failing to get involved in the political process and supporting the national organizations dedicated to preserving your gun rights.

California recently released its latest list of handguns that are no longer certified. You can also click here for an interactive widget to determine the certification of the 908 models currently approved in California, the list changes on a weekly basis.

Be absolutely aware, ignorance is not a defense, and whether you live in or out of the state, you do not want to incur a guaranteed expensive and stressful criminal incident and legal battle over a very simple and totally innocent sale or purchase.

Be smart and be wary and stay out of poverty and prison.


TOPICS: Outdoors; Politics; Society; Sports
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A friend passed this on to me. When I first read the article I thought it had to be a conspiracy theory!
1 posted on 09/28/2014 3:07:17 PM PDT by Twotone
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It’s not called “The Granola State” for nothing. Once you get past the fruits and nuts, there’s nothing left but flakes.


2 posted on 09/28/2014 3:11:11 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Stop flooding our schools with unaccompanied illegal aliens. Do it for the children!)
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To: Twotone

http://oag.ca.gov/sites/oag.ca.gov/files/pdfs/firearms/removed.pdf

Fifty pages of de-certified handguns.


3 posted on 09/28/2014 3:13:45 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: FlingWingFlyer

The Kalifornia Raisins were the perfect product for that place.


4 posted on 09/28/2014 3:17:15 PM PDT by CodeToad (Islam should be outlawed and treated as a criminal enterprise!)
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To: Twotone

This is thirteen year old news for those of us who live here. Unfortunately.


5 posted on 09/28/2014 3:23:08 PM PDT by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!",)
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To: Twotone
It's not an infringement.

It's an outright prohibition!

6 posted on 09/28/2014 3:23:28 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist (Jeremiah 50:32 "The arrogant one will stumble and fall ; / ?)
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To: Twotone

Darn, can’t sell mine anymore, guess I will have to keep them...


7 posted on 09/28/2014 3:24:01 PM PDT by BlueNgold (Have we crossed the line from Govt. in righteous fear of the People - to a People in fear of Govt??)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Can we just go ahead and force California to secede from the U.S.?


8 posted on 09/28/2014 3:24:11 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Twotone

Holy infringement Batman!


9 posted on 09/28/2014 3:24:28 PM PDT by vpintheak (Keep calm and Fire for Effect!)
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To: jsanders2001

“Can we just go ahead and force California to secede from the U.S.?”

Let’s draw a east/west line across California just north of Sacramento and keep that portion of the state. Let the portion south if that line do what it wishes, return to Mexico if it wants...


10 posted on 09/28/2014 3:31:46 PM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: Twotone
And California will be a safer place because of it. Yup.

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11 posted on 09/28/2014 3:33:18 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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To: Twotone

Just last week another opportunity to move to the LA area came up. New position in my company, promotion, big step up in many areas. I politely said no thanks. No way in hades.


12 posted on 09/28/2014 3:33:23 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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“A friend passed this on to me. When I first read the article I thought it had to be a conspiracy theory!”

Both sides of the issue understand this, FULLY. Most people in the middle do not.

If the cost of a gun is driven up enough, then you don’t even need “gun control”, as the price will dissuade nearly all purchasers that don’t have an immediate need, thereby ELIMINATING 80-90% of potential owners. Once you do that, then there simply is not enough gun owners to be a credible political force, and the people pushing gun control can then move in for the kill.

So for those that have trouble understanding why us pro-gun people appear VERY DEFENSIVE in opposing “common sense gun control”, that is why.


13 posted on 09/28/2014 3:37:12 PM PDT by BobL (Don't forget - Today's Russians learn math WITHOUT calculators.)
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To: Twotone

This law has no legitimacy. A decent person might follow the law out of fear or evade by any lawful means (the firearms equivalent of Clinton’s “truthful but not helpful”), but there is no moral obligation to obey and an absolute moral obligation to vote for jury nullification in any case that goes to trial. We have to stop respecting the law as a positive in the abstract sense. Laws are concrete and have to be judged individually.


14 posted on 09/28/2014 3:37:46 PM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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- DID YOU NOTICE THE BIG FUSS OBAMA & HOLDER MADE ABOUT THE BARACK MUSLIM THAT BEHEADED A WOMAN IN OKLAHOMA?


15 posted on 09/28/2014 3:41:29 PM PDT by devolve (- "When Obama puts on a USMC T-Shirt to play basketball he still shoots 90% airballs! -)
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To: ThunderSleeps

yeah I understand, we live in Kentucky and have discussed what incentive it would take to get us to move to Florida. The answer is nothing would work. California doesn’t even come into the discussion. Four times the amount of money that I make now would not be sufficient to get me to move to California.


16 posted on 09/28/2014 3:48:04 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: TexasGator

Yup.....I am banned from California.....LOL...

Smith & Wesson 65-8 SKU 162604 / Stainless Steel .357 Magnum Revolver 4” 8/17/2014


17 posted on 09/28/2014 3:56:15 PM PDT by Cold Heat (Have you reached your breaking point yet? If not now....then when?)
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To: Twotone
bump for later. They really do have a plan to confiscate existing firearms to cut down on the number of firearms in circulation.
18 posted on 09/28/2014 4:02:12 PM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: TexasGator

Which is why I reported that all of my firearms were lost in a tragic boating accident at Chicken Foot Lake in the High Sierras. They are more than welcome to hike 50 miles into the back country and do some scuba diving to confirm the veracity of my story if they have any doubts.


19 posted on 09/28/2014 5:17:53 PM PDT by Roger Kaputnik
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To: Twotone

This is one of many reasons why the NRA and the CRPA do not get a dime from me. I have been a life member of both since the 1980s when I bought into their “we need more money and everything will be all right” shtick. BS. Nothing that CA does when it comes to gun possession, carry , or purchase is Constitutional and both organizations just pussyfoot around.


20 posted on 09/28/2014 5:38:35 PM PDT by onceone (0311, K Co., 3/5 1st Mar Div, RVN '68)
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