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Meet the honest 27 year old single mom from PA who faces 3 years in a New Jersey prison
wyblog ^ | 12 July, 2014 | Chris Wysoki

Posted on 07/16/2014 10:24:31 AM PDT by marktwain

Meet the honest 27 year old single mom from PA who faces 3 years in a New Jersey prison

Shaneen Allen is no dangerous criminal. She's a single mom working 2 jobs who's already been robbed twice while traveling alone at night in Philadelphia. Her family suggested that she carry a gun for protection. She took a gun safety course, applied for and was granted a concealed carry permit, and bought a gun.

Then she made the mistake of driving into New Jersey.

Now she's going to prison.

Allen said that she didn't know her permit didn't apply to New Jersey so when she was stopped for a minor traffic offense she told the police about her gun and her permit to carry. In this case, being honest may have cost her.

"The judge tried to tell me that telling the truth messed me up, my life up and the cop said the same thing. Me opening my mouth and speaking out he said I'm one out of ten people that spoke up and was honest and that got me in trouble," she said.

Allen was charged with unlawful possession of a weapon and possession of hallow-point bullets which were in the gun. Under New Jersey gun laws, the illegal possession of a gun is a second-degree felony which holds a minimum sentence of three-years in prison.

I hope all you moms demanding "gun sense" are happy. Because your draconian gun laws are working. They're taking dangerous criminals like Shaneen Allen off the streets, and leaving her kids to fend for themselves.

Oh, but wait, elsewhere in New Jersey today…

Atlantic City: Shortly before noon a man was shot in the back at the corner of Connecticut and Drexel Avenues.

Camden: 2 people were shot this morning at the Regency House Apartment complex.

Winslow Township: A teen is recovering after a stray bullet hit her through a bedroom wall.

Paterson: A 19 year old man was arrested in the shooting death of 12 year old Genesis Rincon, who was killed while riding her scooter.

Newark: The homicide toll now stands at 44 after Edison Javier Vasquez Naranjo, 27, was found shot outside a home on the 200 block of 4th Street near the city's Branch Brook Park.

Putting a 27 year old single mom in prison surely would have prevented all that, right?

Of course not. Only an idiot, or a member of Moms Demand Action (but I repeat myself), could think otherwise.

All the feel-good legislation in the world wouldn't have stopped today's (or any other) shootings. And locking up Shaneen Allen is a travesty. She'll rot in jail just so preening soccer moms can pat themselves on the back.

Because that's what our state calls "justice" these days.


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; ccw; guncontrol; newjersey; nj; shaneenallen
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To: marktwain
On the one hand, one of the first things you learn in a CCW class (or at least in the class I took) was that as a CCW holder you are responsible for knowing the laws in whatever states you live in or travel to. So she should have checked on the Fascist State of New Jersey's gun laws before going there (assuming this was a planned trip and not a case of missing an exit). In that sense it is her fault that this happened.

On the other hand, the fact that New Jersey does not recognize the permits of its neighbor states is (frankly) stupid--right up there with the REST of their draconian gun laws! Just from my own experience, Kansas had reciprocity agreements with all of its neighbors even before it chose last year to honor all CCWs. That kind of "gun law" just makes sense. If you want to push for "sensible gun laws," that is the first place to start, quickly followed by national CCW reciprocity.

But are the Moms and Mayors going to do that? Of course not.

41 posted on 07/16/2014 10:50:26 AM PDT by lcms rev
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To: The Good Doctor

Of course, without knowing the story it’s premature to lump this particular single mother into that category. There are more ways to become a single mother than just not getting married first.


42 posted on 07/16/2014 10:53:40 AM PDT by lcms rev
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To: marktwain; tx_eggman
"hallow-point bullets"

What, they were consecrated by a priest?!?!
43 posted on 07/16/2014 10:55:51 AM PDT by SpinnerWebb (IN-SAPORIBVS-SICVT-PVLLVM)
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To: marktwain

“She’ll rot in jail just so preening soccer moms can pat themselves on the back.”

This sums it up pretty good.


44 posted on 07/16/2014 10:57:58 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: marktwain

If she had also been an Illegal Alien then they would have let her go.


45 posted on 07/16/2014 10:59:15 AM PDT by Revel
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To: TheDon
Another crime with no victim.

Miss Allen is the victim of a crime against the Constitution. Perpetrator is the State of New Jersey.

46 posted on 07/16/2014 10:59:43 AM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: Lorianne

Also, in another account of this story that I read earlier today, she was pulled over for an unsafe lane change. I noticed one thing right away when I started driving with a gun in my truck....I became the most calm, courteous, law-abiding driver on the road.


47 posted on 07/16/2014 11:04:33 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Please $upport Free Republic.)
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To: Azeem
You are supposed to, but there is no penalty for not doing so.

I wonder if by breaking the law, they would decline future renewal of the CCW permit.

48 posted on 07/16/2014 11:06:19 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer.)
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To: Azeem
Stay silent in any attempt at incriminating questions, (Officer) - Yes, Officer - No, Officer - I do not consent to searches, Officer - Are you going to arrest me, or am I free to go, Officer

If arrested stay silent (Officer) and only ask for legal council and badge numbers

Contact State Attorney General and ask them if they are "intere$$$ted" in their re-election prospects (If Officer overstepped boundaries)
49 posted on 07/16/2014 11:07:42 AM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Logical me

Should have said she was going to her gay wedding


50 posted on 07/16/2014 11:08:53 AM PDT by ballplayer
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To: Azeem

“She should know exactly which states have reciprocation with PA”

How often should one check? Daily,weekly or monthly? This information is not major news.

I have Florida CCW so I could carry when traveling to PA, PA honored it when I received it but decided to not honor a few months after I received it for some political nonsense. After hearing this from a friend I checked, he was correct.


51 posted on 07/16/2014 11:13:44 AM PDT by GreatMan
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To: lcms rev
On the other hand, the fact that New Jersey does not recognize the permits of its neighbor states

NJ doesn't recognize any state's permit.

52 posted on 07/16/2014 11:14:57 AM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

In most states, having a CHL requires that you inform the officer at a traffic stop. In Texas, you are required to give them your CHL with your driver’s license.

I don’t want to see this woman go to jail, but she should have checked NJ laws before traveling into the state. Responsible gun owners do not make assumptions about the law.


53 posted on 07/16/2014 11:16:06 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: rjsimmon
Tell me how NJ can cancel out the Constitution? It would appear as if they are infringing upon her RKBA.

In reality any requirement for licensing or registration is a clear infringement upon our Second Amendment rights. So is any law limiting the right to carry a weapon.

54 posted on 07/16/2014 11:17:25 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: thackney

Chocolate milk through the nose!


55 posted on 07/16/2014 11:18:05 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Bingo.


56 posted on 07/16/2014 11:18:10 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Please $upport Free Republic.)
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To: GreatMan

“How often should one check? Daily,weekly or monthly? This information is not major news.”

It is your duty to know the local laws when you use your FL CCW (LTCH in Indiana) license. I’m sure all the states have that verbiage somewhere in their disclaimers. Utah made it part of the training course.

Every time you are leaving your state, you should be looking at reciprocation maps. I always use two sources, just to confirm.

CCW App - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ryan.ccw

http://www.handgunlaw.us/


57 posted on 07/16/2014 11:28:02 AM PDT by Azeem (There are four boxes to be used in the defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury and ammo.)
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To: marktwain

It makes my blood boil that this woman is in jail.

As a New Yorker, I want to remind free state Americans that when you cross the border into places like NY, NJ, CT, MA, MD, you are for all intents and purposes leaving America and entering a foreign country, where rights and common sense are rare and insane laws are many.

I would suggest organizing a boycott of NJ, until the charges are dismissed, but I honestly can’t think of a single reason an out of stater would want to visit that sinkhole anyway.


58 posted on 07/16/2014 11:34:41 AM PDT by Above My Pay Grade (The people have the right to tell government what guns it may possess, not the other way around.)
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To: Da Coyote
You can use "fart" in your replies.

FMCDH(BITS)

59 posted on 07/16/2014 11:35:53 AM PDT by nothingnew (Hemmer and MacCullum are the worst on FNC)
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To: Azeem

It’s accurate.


60 posted on 07/16/2014 11:37:38 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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