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Martial Law: Obama Confiscates National Guard Helicopters From All 50 States
Examiner.com ^ | April 14, 2014 | Dave Gibson

Posted on 04/19/2014 1:33:21 PM PDT by lbryce

As if the Obama administration's purchase of more than 2 billion rounds of ammunition, and nearly 3,000 urban tanks, along with their unprecedented (and highly illegal) domestic spying program was not enough to convince you that the federal government is about to suspend the Constitution once and for all, the man who once vowed to run "the most transparent administration in history" has just rather inexplicably, ordered the U.S. Army to seize every Apache attack helicopter currently in use by the National Guard.

In all, the Defense Department will confiscate 192 Apaches from National Guard units around the country and give them to the active duty Army.

In exchange for the heavily armed and highly maneuverable choppers, Guard units will receive 111 UH-60 Blackhawk transport helicopters from the Army, Defense One reports.

Last week, U.S. Army Chief of Staff Gen. Ray Odierno testified before the Senate Armed Services Committee, claiming that the measure will save taxpayers $12 billion, over the next three years.

(Excerpt) Read more at examiner.com ...


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It's hard to give The Obama Administration the benefit of the doubt in accepting the reason for confiscating 192 heavily armed, highly maneuverable Apache helicopters as a money-saving move. When one considers that this 'cost saving' move comes from an administration which regularly runs trillion-dollar deficits and, to date, has proposed no less than 442 tax increases since taking office in January 2009, the idea of saving money for the American taxpayer is a bit hard to swallow.

With the recent, attempted seizure of the Bundy family ranch in Nevada by more than 200 armed federal officers, including many snipers, we know that the Obama administration is not afraid to use force against the American people. I would have to consider the confiscation of these helicopters a worrisome move. (gulp!)

1 posted on 04/19/2014 1:33:21 PM PDT by lbryce
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To: lbryce

Can’t we just call it a “Recall” for repairs? That’s the ticket for liberals.


2 posted on 04/19/2014 1:37:00 PM PDT by Mark (Obama Care is now DEMOCRAT CARE)
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To: lbryce

It just wouldn’t do for the militia to have
apache choppers in the line up.


3 posted on 04/19/2014 1:37:05 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: lbryce

Why does the National Guard need Apaches?


4 posted on 04/19/2014 1:37:45 PM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (urope. Why do they put up with this.)
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To: lbryce

Can’t have the plumbers, rodeo clowns and arrowhead collectors shooting BACK, now can we...?


5 posted on 04/19/2014 1:38:42 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: lbryce

The Examiner isn’t a real anything, and nobody confiscated anything.

Moving things from active to Guard and vice-versa is a normal activity.


6 posted on 04/19/2014 1:40:25 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

The question to me is where are these Apaches going to go. Obviously the military does not need them right now.


7 posted on 04/19/2014 1:40:52 PM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: lbryce
As if the Obama administration's purchase of more than 2 billion rounds of ammunition, and nearly 3,000 urban tanks

What 3,000 "tanks"?

And why is saving 12 billion dollars a bad thing?

8 posted on 04/19/2014 1:43:06 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: lbryce

Here is a Heritage Foundation article, a source better than this nutcase.

The Heritage Foundation:
Congress Should Avert Delays in the Army’s Aviation Restructuring Plans

“The Army’s decision to transfer AH-64 Apache helicopters from the National Guard to the active force has sparked a debate that ultimately concerns the roles, missions, and contributions of these ground components. Congress should prevent unnecessary delays in the implementation of these plans while making a stronger commitment to providing the resources that the armed forces need to maintain national security.”
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“Congress should support the Army’s efforts to rebalance its assets in a way that benefits both active and Guard components. This can be done by resisting attempts to slow the plan from being executed as quickly as possible while also striving to fund the requirements of the Army and other services more robustly.

Win-Win for Active Army and National Guard

As proposed, the Army’s Aviation Restructure Concept will transfer all of the Guard’s 192 AH-64 Apache attack helicopters to the active component and 15 percent of the active component’s UH-60 Blackhawk utility helicopters to the Guard and Reserve.”


9 posted on 04/19/2014 1:49:27 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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To: DIRTYSECRET
Why does the National Guard need Apaches?

Because many National Guard Units are combat unit. Combat units which have been deployed many times to combat zones.

Combat units are supposed to have organic assets so it can train/deploy as a unit to be effective in combat.

Medical, artillery, signal, transportation. logistics, engineers and yes - rotary wing ground attack air units.

10 posted on 04/19/2014 1:52:01 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

The National Guard is the Wal-Mart of national defense.

If the federal government was serious about saving money, they’d let the states keep the Apaches and give them the other helicopters too.


11 posted on 04/19/2014 1:52:13 PM PDT by zipper (In Their Heart Of Hearts, Every Democrat Is A Communist.)
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To: Mouton

I recall the then standard response to a logical question from the Army since Washington’s command: “Good Training.”


12 posted on 04/19/2014 1:53:07 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: DIRTYSECRET

They have them for the reserve/National Guard pilots that fly them when they are activated as they were for Afghanistan and Iraq. The state guard units and reserve units have all the same equipment that the active forces have.


13 posted on 04/19/2014 1:54:16 PM PDT by qaz123
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To: zipper
>>>The National Guard is the Wal-Mart of national defense. If the federal government was serious about saving money, they’d let the states keep the Apaches and give them the other helicopters too.

Yep. The National Guard does the same job for about 1/3 the cost. If they really wanted to be constitutional and save money, they would slash the active duty and build up the Guard. No need to have such a large active duty if you stay within the bounds of the constitution and stay out of every wild fire in the world.

14 posted on 04/19/2014 1:56:39 PM PDT by NELSON111
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To: lbryce; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

> In exchange for the heavily armed and highly maneuverable choppers, Guard units will receive 111 UH-60 Blackhawk transport helicopters from the Army, Defense One reports.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3145567/posts


15 posted on 04/19/2014 1:59:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: ansel12
The Examiner isn’t a real anything, and nobody confiscated anything.

Moving things from active to Guard and vice-versa is a normal activity.

Why'd you have to show up and ruin a perfectly good conspiracy theory? Doncha know those Apaches were for the FEMA camps?

16 posted on 04/19/2014 2:03:10 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: lbryce

Aren’t NG units deployed in combat situations? I know the 69th NY has been deployed at least twice to Iraq. These units are expected to fit seamlessly into the Toe of their operations command. How does transferring the Apache sustain a unit’s ability to perform it’s mission? I really don’t want to go all tinfoil here but 30 years ago ABC did a mini series called Amerika. The Soviets had taken over using EMPs.They divided the nation into five zones and allowed each zone a locally raised guard, but much less well armed than the US troops that were the true occupying force.A poorly armed militia is a scary thought.


17 posted on 04/19/2014 2:06:13 PM PDT by xkaydet65 (.You have never tasted freedom, else you would know it is purchased not with gold but with steel)
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To: Drew68

I know Michigan didn’t pay for the A-10s and other military aircraft stationed at Selfridge ANG base.


18 posted on 04/19/2014 2:06:38 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Mark

When they say saving the taxpayers they could give a F about us. They lie! If we “THE AMERICAN CITIZEN” are labeled as a domestic terrorist they are treasonist bastards who should be sent to the gallows


19 posted on 04/19/2014 2:07:00 PM PDT by ronnie raygun
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To: lbryce

That’s because they have features that are not strictly for Sporting Purposes.


20 posted on 04/19/2014 2:07:08 PM PDT by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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