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1 posted on 04/10/2014 8:09:43 PM PDT by rightwingerpatriot
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Clark County = Las Vegas = Dingy Reed.

Dingy's protege/advisor of three years ago somehow became the Director of the BLM the other day.

The BLM is all about eliminating grazing on the BLM land in question to provide wildlife habitat offsets for the solar power projects recently constructed nearby.

2 posted on 04/10/2014 8:14:21 PM PDT by Paladin2
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They (Government) say they restricted the land to save the Tortoise, but...They’ve closed down the sanctuary for the tortoise, and are actually killing them now.

The cattle that are being rounded up are, reportedly, being killed.

This entire thing stinks to high Hell, and I hope more people will stand with the Rancher. If I could get there, I surely would.


3 posted on 04/10/2014 8:15:50 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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It does look like they’re looking to kill someone with this. Another Ruby Ridge in the making. Sandoval is being pathetically subservient here.

If I were the governor, I would have the state troopers down there standing with the rancher!


4 posted on 04/10/2014 8:17:03 PM PDT by Viennacon
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I only hope it doesn't end like Ruby Ridge or Waco, where lives were lost.

The government had to pay a settlement to Randy Weaver for Ruby Ridge. Millions.

Didn't bring back his wife, but the government paid out of our taxes.

/johnny

5 posted on 04/10/2014 8:17:05 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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The Endangered Species Act is killing people. It needs to be repealed. Who gives a damn about a stupid tortoise or a bait fish?


6 posted on 04/10/2014 8:19:52 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (GO WISCONSIN BADGERS GO!)
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While you can argue the merits or the lack of them of Bundy's case, it is disturbing how the federal government is handling the situation.

It is beyond disturbing.

9 posted on 04/10/2014 8:22:55 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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The area has an overpopulation of desert tortoises. Dingy Harriet had the area moved because one of her good buddies has a developed property in the area. All lies by an out of control feral big grubment.


11 posted on 04/10/2014 8:24:19 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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Bttt.

5.56mm

15 posted on 04/10/2014 8:27:40 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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It's almost as if the federal government wants the situation to blow up so they use full force.

And the election is still how many months away? What's their hurry?

17 posted on 04/10/2014 8:27:52 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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Maybe I’m being the old curmudgeon in this, but it isn’t his property. Why should he be entitled to use it? Could he use my property? Yours? Sounds like he thinks he’s entitled. Not sure on what planet he is.


20 posted on 04/10/2014 8:32:02 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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My problem with all the reports about this situation is that they all say that the farmer is in the wrong.

Well, he and his family were grazing on those lands before the BLM even came into existence. Then, when the BLM was created, they agreed to pay grazing fees, and the GOVERNMENT (the BLM) would pay for the road maintenance and other improvements.

The BLM is NOT, has NOT and will NOT use these grazing fees to do their agreed upon maintenance and up-keep. Unfortunately, all of the courts refuse to look at THAT evidence, and instead simply say, “You gotta keep paying.”

What the Gundy’s want to know is, “WHAT THE HELL AM I PAYING FOR, IF I GET NOTHING IN RETURN?” This whole thing is BS!

And as has already been noted, the first premise was the desert tortoises, but they are now OVER populated and the government has shut down the reserve and is killing the excess turtles! So, their entire case is a LIE, and STILL the courts refuse to look at the OBVIOUS evidence!


22 posted on 04/10/2014 8:36:37 PM PDT by ExTxMarine (PRAYER: It's the only HOPE for real CHANGE in America!)
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“On February 26, 1993, Bundy sent an Administrative Notice of Intent to the BLM, which stated his intent to graze cattle “pursuant to my vested grazing rights.” See Exhibit 10 to #11. Bundy sent several more Administrative Notice[s] of Intent in the months that followed. On June 16, 1993, the BLM sent Bundy a letter informing him that his application had not been received to graze livestock for the June 15, 1993 to August 31, 1993 period. The BLM included another application for Bundy to fill out and return. See Exhibit 12 to #11. Bundy responded to the BLM letter with another Administrative Notice and Intent, stating, among other things, that the BLM has produced no documents showing it had jurisdiction over the public lands. See Exhibit 13 to #11. The BLM began trespass detection efforts at the end of June 1993.

On July 13, 1993, the BLM sent Bundy a Trespass Notice and Order to Remove and gave him ten days to respond. As requested by Bundy, the BLM informed Bundy in a July 27, 1993 letter that it would extend the response time to 30 days. On August 19, 1993, Bundy sent another Administrative Notice and Intent, stating the BLM lacked proof that it had jurisdiction. See Exhibit 16 to #11.

On January 24, 1994, the BLM delivered a Proposed Decision Order to Remove and Demand for Payment to Bundy by placing it on the dashboard of Bundy’s vehicle while he was in the vehicle. BLM officials allege that Bundy became agitated, walked out of his truck and accused the BLM of harassing him. He then returned to his truck, threw the decision out of the window and drove away. One of Bundy’s sons then picked up the decision, tore it into pieces and threw it on the ground.

On February 17, 1994, the BLM issued a final decision canceling Bundy’s ephemeral range grazing permit. “

Yep. Just an out of control BLM refusing to work with an honest guy...< / sarcasm >


24 posted on 04/10/2014 8:39:07 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (I sooooo miss America!)
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FYI it’s not just in Nevada:

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152735638969167


32 posted on 04/10/2014 8:51:37 PM PDT by JouleZ (You are the company you keep.)
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The militias should organize a “tortoise hunt”: prizes for each carcass of the protected species, until it is made truly extinct, and then hold a giant camp out, with large vats of turtle soup.


36 posted on 04/10/2014 8:56:30 PM PDT by montag813
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Is there evidence that the “endangered” turtle cannot co-exist with cattle? Or is that an impertinent, irrelevant question? Yes, I know. Depends on who is doing the defining.


42 posted on 04/10/2014 9:20:36 PM PDT by Elsiejay
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agenda 21 kicking people out of rural areas. note they aren’t doing it to ted turner, biggest landowner in america.


48 posted on 04/10/2014 10:04:17 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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Been awhile since the feds made and example of someone to show the little people who really is the boss.
Sooooo,
How the hell many are they going to kill this time?
This vaunted federal gub mint of ours?


54 posted on 04/11/2014 3:47:03 AM PDT by Joe Boucher ((FUBO) obammy lied and lied and lied)
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The wording on this is all wrong.
They refused his payments; he tried to pay the state so they could hold the money until things cleared up, but the state didn’t want to be part of the process; he then just stopped paying, because they refused the payments.


55 posted on 04/11/2014 5:04:07 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Freedom isn't free; nor is it easy. END ALL TOTALITARIAN ACTIVITY NOW.)
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As Article One, Section 8, Clause 17 states, Congress has the power:
To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings.

Where does BLM get it’s assumed authority over this very large tract of land? The law says that it can’t be greater than ten miles square.


56 posted on 04/11/2014 6:10:13 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Freedom isn't free; nor is it easy. END ALL TOTALITARIAN ACTIVITY NOW.)
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I suspect that this is all Dingy Harry’s doing and related to kickbacks from Fracking Leases.

http://www.naturalnews.com/044670_BLM_lies_fracking_leases_Bundy_ranch.html#


57 posted on 04/11/2014 6:28:34 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Freedom isn't free; nor is it easy. END ALL TOTALITARIAN ACTIVITY NOW.)
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