Yeshua’s Famous Last Words Amen, Emet, Truth

Michael Rood's Sabbat NIght Live Via Youtube ^ | 28 February 2014 | Michael Rood

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As the book of the Revelation comes to a close, we are left with some very important words. Keep his commandments, know his Torah, and make yourself ready to be the bride of the King. He is coming quickly. Join Michael Rood for the final episode in the series From Here to Eternity – Yeshua’s Famous Last Words: Amen, Emet, Truth.

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Someone hacked his FR account!

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LOL!

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Yep dem catliks saved da Byble!

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Ask at the website.

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>> “you keep omitting the fact that there were huge numbers of Hellenized Jews living outside of Palestine” <<

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An absurd myth!

There were a few in and around Alexandria, but nowhere else.
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[af_vet_1981]

1. John told us to test the spirit. 1 John 4:1
2. Yeshua told us to watch out that no one deceives you. Matt. 24:4
3. There are many more warnings that Satan will cause people to fall into an "apostasy", which I contend is exactly what we're witnessing with the pre-trib, grace perversion doctrines cropping up. Many are abandoning a life of righteousness for the idea that simply saying you believe, exempts one from repenting of their previous sins or adherence to the commandments of the Almighty.

1. 1 John 4:1-3 seems to be straightforward in terms of affirming or denying that the Messiah has come in the person of Yeshua of Nazareth, son of Miriam, son of God. I don't see a problem with using English translations of the Greek manuscripts from this regard.

   Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

2. Others would claim to be Messiah, and many would follow them. I don't find it credible to think that the Apostles could be deceived in this regard and that the warning was prophetically for them. I see both Bar Kochba, and Mohammed as examples of this, but of course I'm not a preterist. And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name, saying , I am Christ; and shall deceive many.

3. I take it you mean 2 Thess: 2:3 "falling away" ie., apostasy which is dovetails nicely with Jude1-4

   Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

   Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort you that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints. For there are certain men crept in unawares, who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.

   I don't know that the pre-trib, grace perversion doctrines necessarily fit this category, but if so, were both Martin Luther and John Calvin examples of this ?

   2 Peter 2 has this, which is why it is so important to cleave to the faith once delivered to the saints.

   But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

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Eat less beans and we will forget your noise!
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The Peshita predated every known Greek MS.
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[af_vet_1981]

I would entreat you, and also others, to give a good example of yourself on this forum so that we who are babes not misunderstand and act out to others in a fashion that brings disrepute in our lives and to the name of Messiah. I don't doubt that the early Scriptures could have been written in Hebrew. What does that profit me if by my life I deny them even in plain English ? So I must go by the light that the Holy Spirit gives me, and it is not faint.

Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom. But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth. This wisdom descendeth not from above, but is earthly, sensual, devilish. For where envying and strife is, there is confusion and every evil work. But the wisdom that is from above is first pure , then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy. And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.

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which is why it is so important to cleave to the faith once delivered to the saints.

Which is what the Hebrew Roots movement is about, in contrast to the apostasy we're seeing in churchianity today (e.g., same-sex marriage, prosperity gospel, grace perversion).

The words faith/believe don't even have the same meanings today as they had did during the time of the first coming.

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This forum is for battling things out, not for the faint hearted sissies.

There are many deliberate corruptions in the commercially available Bibles, that need to be exposed and answered, like the addition of John 6:4 by Eusebius for example. It was added to cloud the true length of Yeshua’s ministry.
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I would entreat you, and also others, to give a good example of yourself on this forum...

I assure you that I and my fellows try. However, it seems many come here with other motives besides a desire for honest discussion, unlike yourself.

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Which is what the Hebrew Roots movement is about, in contrast to the apostasy we're seeing in churchianity today (e.g., same-sex marriage, prosperity gospel, grace perversion). The words faith/believe don't even have the same meanings today as they had did during the time of the first coming.

1. If such a new movement is necessary to establish the true faith, do you thereby hold the true faith was lost? This implies Yeshua failed to establish a church as he promised here And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. .
2. The Catholics stand against all the items you mention. The Fundamentalists stand against them also, except you may object to some of them with their Calvinism as a grace perversion.

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I assure you that I and my fellows try. However, it seems many come here with other motives besides a desire for honest discussion, unlike yourself.

None of that matters; believe others are watching you, as testifies Hebrews 12:

1. Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us,
2. Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of our faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
3. For consider him that endured such contradiction of sinners against himself, lest ye be wearied and faint in your minds.
4. Ye have not yet resisted unto blood, striving against sin.
5. And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
6. For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.
7. If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not?
8. But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
9. Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us, and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live?
10. For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness.
11. Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.
12. Wherefore lift up the hands which hang down, and the feeble knees;
13. And make straight paths for your feet, lest that which is lame be turned out of the way; but let it rather be healed.

[af_vet_1981]

Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord:

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>> “If such a new movement is necessary to establish the true faith, do you thereby hold the true faith was lost?” <<

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There has always been a remnant following Yeshua’s way.

The Nazarenes are an example.

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>> “The Catholics stand against all the items you mention.” <<

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That would be laughable were it not for the fact that you were serious.

The catholic church is the whore that rides the beast.

Always has been. They slaughtered Yeshua’s followers by the millions for at least a millennium.

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1.If such a new movement is necessary to establish the true faith...

It is necessary to remove the tares from the wheat, IMO, and from what I've seen/discovered.

do you thereby hold the true faith was lost?

There is no doubt that what many believe today to be faith/belief is hollow shell of the original meaning to repent and live a life righteous in accordance with that which the Almighty intended and Yeshua taught.

This implies Yeshua failed to establish a church as he promised here And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

No it doesn't, as the final stones are being laid even now...

2.The Catholics stand against all the items you mention. The Fundamentalists stand against them also, except you may object to some of them with their Calvinism as a grace perversion.

Every "manmade doctrine" on earth is to some extent against the true Word of the Almighty:

Matt. 23:8"But do not be called Rabbi; for One is your Teacher, and you are all brothers. 9"Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven. 10"Do not be called leaders; for One is your Leader, that is, Christ.

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Link: What was the church trying to hide? by Tony Bushby

What was the church trying to hide? IN 1415,THE CHURCH OF ROME TOOK AN EXTRAORDINARY STEP TO destroy all knowledge of two Second Century Jewish books that it said contained ‘the true name of Jesus Christ.’ The Antipope Benedict XIII firstly singled out for condemnation a secret Latin treatise called ‘Mar Yesu’ and then issued instructions to destroy all copies of the Book of Elxai. No editions of these writings now publicly exist, but church archives recorded that they were once in popular circulation and known to the early presbyters.

 

Knowledge of these writings survived from quotations made by Bishop Hippolytus of Rome (176 –236) and St Epiphanius of Salamis (315 – 403) along with references in some early editions of the Talmud of Palestine and Babylonia. The Rabbinic fraternity once held the destroyed manuscripts with great reverence for they were comprehensive original records reporting the ‘Life of Rabbi Jesus’.

Later, in a similar manner, Pope Alexander VI (1492 –1503) ordered all copies of the Talmud destroyed. The Council of the Inquisition required as many Jewish writings as possible to burn with the Spanish Grand Inquisitor, Tomas de Torquemada (1420 –98), responsible for the elimination of 6000 volumes at Salamanca.

 

In 1550,Cardinal Caraffa, the Inquisitor-General procured a Bull from the Pope repealing all previous permission for priests to read the Talmud which he said contained ‘hostile stories about Jesus Christ ’. Bursting forth with fury at the head of his minions, he seized every copy he could find in Rome and burnt them. Solomon Romano (1554) also burnt many thousands of Hebrew scrolls and in 1559 every Hebrew book in the city of Prague was confiscated.

The catholic church was doing all they could to wipe out the real worship of Yeshua, and every evidence thereof, even hostile evidence.

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None of that matters...

1 Peter 4 Each of you should use whatever gift you have received to serve others, as faithful stewards of God’s grace in its various forms.

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Of course not, but exactly how do you think that proves the first NT texts were ALL written in Greek (i.e., 100% as you contend)?

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Find. Us. An. Earlier. Hebrew. Manuscript.

Geez, it's tiring repeating myself to you.