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House GOP Caves; Told Obama They Will End Shutdown If He Negotiates On Budget, ObamaCare Off Table
Flopping Aces ^ | 10-11-13 | Curt

Posted on 10/11/2013 8:54:21 AM PDT by Starman417

BoehnerJohnCrying1

Time to primary every single one of these a**hats:

House Republicans told Obama at the White House that they could reopen the federal government by early next week if the president and Senate Democrats agree to their debt-ceiling proposal. After the debt ceiling is lifted, a House GOP aide said they would seek some additional concessions in a government funding bill.

Obama repeatedly pressed House Republicans to open the government, asking them “what’s it going to take to” end the shutdown, those sources said. He questioned why the government should remain closed if both sides agreed to engage in good-faith negotiations on the budget, according to a Democratic source briefed on the meeting…

Obama agreed to review the House Republican proposal for reopening the government, but reiterated that he wouldn’t pay a ransom, the Democratic source said.

Obamacare?

Nothing...nada...zip.

The whole reason tea-party groups like Heritage Action were okay with a short-term debt-ceiling hike is because, in theory, it cleared the way to re-focus on stopping ObamaCare by digging in on the shutdown. Instead, evidently, Republicans are ready to end the shutdown for a month or more in order to initiate broader negotiations with the White House. Which means that, contra tea partiers’ wishes, discussions over the shutdown and the debt ceiling will end up being “merged” after all. Which in turn means defunding/delaying ObamaCare, if it’s not off the table already, is likely headed for the shelf as the parties focus on deficit reduction instead.

The RINO's have caved and now what do we get in return?

In exchange, they sought a commitment by the president to negotiate a deal for long-term deficit reduction and a tax overhaul.

A commitment to negotiate.

Just when you thought the RINO's couldn't get more spineless they surprise you.

And now we got Boehner to negotiate a budget deal once more. It worked out quite well a few years ago:

(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: boehner; cantor; obama; obamacare
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To: Steve_Seattle

I have made the point elsewhere on the site that the strategy the Democrats have used and gotten away with over the last seven years of failing to approve or put forward a budget for the budget process has put them in the postition where some sort of CR is required each period regardless.

Our stop-gap has been attachments to the CRs and not an earlier insistance upon following the modern era Congressional Budget process. Once they got past two years of this game, we should have shut down the whole house as soon as we were able and enforced the Budget process.

Instead we find ourselves in a game of brinkmanship to attach one or two little bandaids to a CR — we have failed to fight when we should have and are now just flailing about as we watch the country go down the drain. Do we really think that daring Obama to captain the wreck of the federal ship is something he is not wishing for an excuse to execute? That is the whole purpose of their scheme. This is their Briar Patch moment — they want us to hold the line.

Cloward-Piven is not that difficult a read.


21 posted on 10/11/2013 9:05:05 AM PDT by KC Burke (Officially since Memorial Day they are the Gimmie-crat Party.h)
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To: Starboard
If true, the final straw for the Republican Party. Stick a fork in it.

I truly believe this is part of the GOPe strategy where they think conservatives will leave the Republican Party to their control yet still vote Republican in the general elections. We need to prove them wrong and take the fight to the primaries at EVERY level of government, leaving them with no choice in the general elections.

22 posted on 10/11/2013 9:05:24 AM PDT by trubolotta
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To: Steve_Seattle

How long did it take the USSR to collapse?


23 posted on 10/11/2013 9:05:30 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: alancarp

I’m so mad I obviously can’t type straight.


24 posted on 10/11/2013 9:05:35 AM PDT by alancarp (Obama will grab your guns and ship them to Mexican drug mobs.)
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To: Starman417

If true; I say WE DESTROY THESE RINOS IN 2014 Starting with Boehner, McConnell, Graham (Just to punish McCain), etc..


25 posted on 10/11/2013 9:05:56 AM PDT by JSDude1 (Is John Boehner the Neville Chamberlain of American Politics?)
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To: Starman417

Who’s for a new march on Washington, D.C. (like 2009)?


26 posted on 10/11/2013 9:06:40 AM PDT by JSDude1 (Is John Boehner the Neville Chamberlain of American Politics?)
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To: Starman417

They can’t end the shutdown. It’s a Democrat shutdown. Ending it is entirely on Obama and Reid.

But this is what they intended to get from it.

Time to get on the phones and on the email. We cannot allow this sellout to go down.


27 posted on 10/11/2013 9:07:13 AM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog
Will end his Speakership.

It should, but I am doubtful it will. Two things have to happen: Boehner gets tossed out, and must be replaced by a Trey Gowdy. This is not the way the GOPe does things, so if Boehner get's challenged, he'll be replaced by Cantor and we get nothing.

28 posted on 10/11/2013 9:07:13 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: trubolotta

You may well be right. Cut off all funding for the Republican Party. Money is the only thing they understand.


29 posted on 10/11/2013 9:07:13 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: Starman417

The Republicans caved.

Wow, there’s a shocker.


30 posted on 10/11/2013 9:07:17 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: Starman417

I’m hoping Obastard overplays his hand and refuses the deal.


31 posted on 10/11/2013 9:07:50 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: Jack Hammer

Why don’t we wait and see if this evolves out of the “rumor” stage......


32 posted on 10/11/2013 9:08:53 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: alancarp

If the beltway GOP won’t fight an engaged battle over obamacare now, they never will. The Senate GOP preemptively surrendered. The House lasted a week before apparently surrendering. The RNC, NRCC and NRSC never did a damn thing during this debate. Plenty of the beltway GOP seem to be quite comfortable with obamacare.


33 posted on 10/11/2013 9:09:23 AM PDT by lodi90
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To: Starboard

Money has already dried up from the conservative grassroots. They’re getting funding from a few powerful people who don’t want to shrink the gummint, they want it to stay big and *they* get a chance to run it for awhile. Think Karl Rove and Crossroads.


34 posted on 10/11/2013 9:10:08 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: lodi90

Right - what I was hoping for was a plan from the ‘real’ GOP... the Tea Party wing, for lack of a better term. No enough of them available to prevent this... yet.


35 posted on 10/11/2013 9:11:12 AM PDT by alancarp (Obama will grab your guns and ship them to Mexican drug mobs.)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

You mean like the last three rumors of a cave? What fun was that?

(Kidding aside, often these “rumors” are really trial balloons, and they need to be shot down ASAP.)


36 posted on 10/11/2013 9:11:46 AM PDT by Cyber Liberty (It's hard to accept the truth when the lies were exactly what you wanted to hear.)
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To: trubolotta
They have always believed that. And millions and millions of 'conservatives' vote GOP at every election.

And at every election we grow .Gov.

37 posted on 10/11/2013 9:11:49 AM PDT by Theoria
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To: Cyber Liberty

If the offer is as reported I don’t think that even Obama is dumb enough to refuse it...hell I almost feel like he’d have just a split second of sympathy for what is going to happen to the GOP as he announces it.

Unbelievable.


38 posted on 10/11/2013 9:12:15 AM PDT by MNlurker
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To: Cyber Liberty

As a trial balloon, we do need to slap it down!!!


39 posted on 10/11/2013 9:12:43 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: PghBaldy
How long did it take the USSR to collapse?

70 years. I suspect few of us will be around to see the final outcome of this.


40 posted on 10/11/2013 9:16:00 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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