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Disheartened media whispers news that amnesty has died in the House
Coach is Right ^ | 9/22/13 | Kevin "Coach" Collins

Posted on 09/22/2013 8:24:40 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax

Pity the poor media. What are the Left’s shock troops of propaganda to do? What are they to do?

Friday the House Gang of Seven lost its final two Republicans. The new configuration making it a Gang of Five Democrats has no chance of forcing America to except illegal aliens as equals. The votes they counted on to retake the House and hold the Senate won’t be there. To its great shame, with the exception of the Washington Post, the Democrat cheerleaders in the media have ignored the story.

In a somber report the WaPo’s report on this major blow to Barack Alinsky’s plans with this despondent quote from Representative Luis Gutierrez (D, Mexico, South America and occasionally Chicago),“It doesn’t appear that we’re going to...

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; cantoract; dreamact; gangofocho; kidsact; luisgutierrez; senate

1 posted on 09/22/2013 8:24:40 AM PDT by Oldpuppymax
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To: Oldpuppymax

Amnesty is not dead. Don’t fall for the disinformation. Cantor’s version of the Dream will go to committee in October.


2 posted on 09/22/2013 8:35:08 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Oldpuppymax

Cantor’s version of the Dream Act will go to committee in October.


3 posted on 09/22/2013 8:35:29 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

I think Cantor is on the wrong side.

Ladies and Gentlemen, stand firm.

NO TO AMNESTY.


4 posted on 09/22/2013 8:37:14 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Cantor legalizes Dreamers, their families in the US and any family members that have been deported.


5 posted on 09/22/2013 8:38:51 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Oldpuppymax

Amnesty is about as dead as the economy is roaring.


6 posted on 09/22/2013 8:40:58 AM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: Oldpuppymax

My admiration for House members went up 3 notches.


7 posted on 09/22/2013 8:42:07 AM PDT by entropy12 (With no fear of re-election, Obama is becoming more radical left..thanks a lot all you who abstained)
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To: Oldpuppymax; All

Illegal Alien Amnesty is Anti-American Bigotry

The House also needs to prevent any bill passing that will be used to by the Senate, in conference, to pass Illegal Alien Amnesty

Any Congress member that is not supporting 100% Illegal Alien Deportation....is supporting Illegal Alien Amnesty. Stop the BS and Spin...and secure the border/deport the Illegals


8 posted on 09/22/2013 9:23:40 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Supporting Communism is never Conservatism)
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To: entropy12
My admiration for House members went up 3 notches.
well..w/ Boner's Leadership that's hugh...

9 posted on 09/22/2013 8:24:35 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
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To: Oldpuppymax; HiJinx; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; Tennessee Nana; Liz; TADSLOS; Impy; NFHale; ...
U.S. Congressman John Carter (R-TX31) and Sam Johnson (R-TX03) released the following statement on their decision to depart from the House immigration working group, citing a lack of faith in President Obama to enforce current....

Well DUH! Maybe our calls are finally sinking in?

... and new laws necessary to solve the immigration problem.

No, they are still looking for a chance to pass new immigration laws. This might get them through the next election without primary challengers.

WAPO: Indeed, it remains very possible that House Republican leaders will simply let reform die — prioritizing their base over the need to repair GOP relations with Latino voters and to address a national problem both sides agree is in dire need of a solution.

Shame on those GOP house members for finally listening to their constituents instead of citizens of other countries.

10 posted on 09/26/2013 7:09:21 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; Oldpuppymax; HiJinx; Perdogg; stephenjohnbanker; Tennessee Nana; ...
RE :”Shame on those GOP house members for finally listening to their constituents instead of citizens of other countries.”

With some help from both the budget fight and upcoming Debt limit fight maybe.

These make it much harder for House amnesty group to get that done. And for all we know many of them were just sweet talking latinos and not serious anyway.

11 posted on 09/26/2013 7:15:24 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: Oldpuppymax

I hope it’s dead. If they’re whispering with tears in their eyes, it’s a good sign.


12 posted on 09/26/2013 7:16:51 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
This need for the Republican Party to get latino voters is embarrassing. If the ptb weren't so bigoted, they'd realize that there is not one latino vote.

Marc Rubio and Ted Cruz gave them the path to the Cuban vote yesterday. Cubans are here legally, they want legislation that supports small business growth and vocational training in HS (not debt for useless degrees) and have on the whole created successful communities. They learn English and know history.

Cruz and Rubio can bring that vote and the vote of equally law abiding hispanics into the Republican Party. Not by pandering. By getting back to conservative roots.

If only we can educate Rubio that the reason we want the invaders to go home is that they're here illegally. No pathway to citizenship (only a oneway ticket home) for those who can't establish that they got to the US legally.

13 posted on 09/26/2013 7:22:15 AM PDT by grania
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AMNESTY AGIT-PROP The Wash/Po's somber report included a despondent quote from Rep Luis Gutierrez (Dem-Third World), who had stupidly announced they "had the votes" for amnesty. (chuckle)

AMNESTY IS ONLY THE BEGINNING ACCORDING TO THIS THIRD WORLD CONGRESSMAN : "Once Congress approves an immigration increase, minorities should demand more, said Gutierrez, a leading advocate of the (now defunct) Senate bill.

“The next day after we pass it, you know we’re not going to be satisfied, we’re going to come back,” he said. “We’re going to have a civil rights act, we’re going to have a voting rights act… Nobody is leaving this fight once we conclude this first chapter,” he said. "Hopefully, in 30 years, [we] can bring immigrants… from all over the world,” Gutierrez said.

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US TXPAYERS DEMAND AN IMMEDIATE THOROUGH INVESTIGATION OF GUTTIEREZ. US citizens demand need to know the answers to these questions.

<><> Who is Gutierrez?

<><> Did he get into Congress using voter fraud?

<><> Did he coach illegals to vote using multiple identities?

<><> How many identities does Gutierrez have now?

<><> How many identities did Gutierrez ever use?

<><> Does Gutierrez have a rap sheet here? In Mexico? Elsewhere?

<><> Does he now or did he ever receive welfare, food stamps, SSI, free medical care, Section 8 housing, UI, Workmen's comp under several identities?

<><> Did he ever apply for, and receive, monthly SS checks, claiming "asylum?"

<><> Does he have a sub-prime mortgage obtained w/ the help of The Hispanic Caucus on Capitol Hill?

<><> Did Gutierrez ever make false claims on IRS forms in order to get EITC refunds?

<><> Does Gutierrez---a former cab driver---have a legal driver's license?

<><> Does he have a valid passport?

<><> How many times did Gutierrez wire-transfer money back to Mexico? The Third World?

<><> How often does he travel to Mexico? The Third World?

<><> Is he registered to vote under several identities?

<><> Does he belong to radical America-hating organizations planning armed conflict to takeover the American Southwest?

<><> Do his kids now or did they ever get in-state tuition--free school lunches--welfare--- food stamps-free healthcare---SSI/ADD checks.

<><> Does Gutierrez know how much money is being drained from the US economy---wired back to secret Mexican bank accounts?

<><> Does his retirement include SS checks for multiple when all his identities?

<><> Did Gutierrez ever use his Congressional office to coach illegals on using multiple identities to get tax dollars?

<><> Did Gutierrez ever use his Congressional office to help illegals SWINDLE THE US GOVT?

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DID GUTIERREZ USE HIS CONGRESSIONAL OFFICE TO HELP ILLEGALS OBTAIN FRAUDULENT MORTGAGES? MORTGAGES THAT DEVSTATED THE US ECONOMY? THAT US TAXPAYERS WERE FORCED TO BAILOUT? Read on.

MASSIVE MORTGAGE FRAUD ON CAPITOL HILL FACILITATED W/ OUR TAX DOLLARS :

The Congressional Hispanic Institute, Inc, is an entity organized by Cong Joe Baca (D-Cali) in his capacity as head of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus.

Cong Baca created "HOGAR" (Spanish for home) in 2003 to work with the mortgage industry, F/M, lenders, banks and latino community groups to increase mortgage lending to what savvy observers consider to be unqualified Latinos.

"HOGAR" colluded w/ Cong Baca in what was to become a massive bilking of taxpayers. Cong Baca calculatedly hyped the fact that the national Latino homeownership rate was 47%, compared with 68% for the overall population.

HOGAR was coached to call the figure "alarming," and to say "a concerted effort was required to ensure that by the end of the decade Latinos will share equally in the American Dream of home ownership."

HOGAR and Cong Baca conned the public, failing to note that most of the "dreamers" were illegals, citizens of Third World countries who had violated US borders.

Predictably, HOGAR colluded w/ co-conspirators which included:

(a) shaky mortgage companies that ran into big trouble;

(b) Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, both now under federal control after billions in taxpayer bailouts;

(c) Countrywide Financial Corp., sold to Bank of America Corp;

(d) Washington Mutual Inc., taken over by the US government and sold to J.P. Morgan Chase & Co.; and,

(e) New Century Financial Corp. and Ameriquest Mortgage Corp, both now defunct, killed by defaulted subprime Latino mortgages.

HOGAR's ties to the subprime mortgage industry were substantial. Bribery and self-dealing were rampant:

<><> Companies that donated $150,000 to Cong Baca got the right to have their own research fellow who would conduct fraudulent studies, which were cunningly used by industry lobbyists to pump lending.

<><> Bribery and extortion in the form of $100,000 annual donations to Cong Baca, for which HOGAR provided phony news releases from Cong Baca's Hispanic Caucus promoting a lender's commercial products to the Latino market,

<><> The most shocking example of bribery well- substantitated by Hogar's literature..... HOGAR announced it worked with Freddie Mac on a self-serving two-year examination of Latino homeownership in 63 congressional districts.

The "study" found Hispanic ownership on the rise thanks to "new flexible mortgage loan products" that the industry was adopting at the urging of Cong Baca's collusive coterie.

<><> HOGAR conned lenders into even more lenient down-payment and underwriting standards.

<><> As the subprime debacle unfolded, HOGAR declined repeated requests for comment despite the economic havoc their activities precipitated.

The mortgage schemes demonstrated the criminal activities of border violators with multiple identities---perhaps violent, terrorist-connected foreigners---colluding and conspiring to defraud private companies and public entities. And mortgage racketeering enterprises which employed sub rosa finance and business practices to carry out deceptions and frauds.

The alleged ring of swindlers---a Congresman, individuals with multiple identities, banks, insurance companies, mortgage brokers--might be charged with cheating the US govt, taxpayers and bank share holders out of hundreds of millions of dollars via an elaborate web of mortgage and bank frauds.

The mortgage Dreamers used multiple phony identities, fraudulent Social Security numbers, purchased from identity forgers in order to obtain govt-subsidized benefits.

L/E will find that individuals with multiple identities obtained fraudulent mortgages then flipped the houses at ever-higher prices to family member who then absconded to foreign countries, sticking banks (and taxpayers) with hundreds of millions in fraudulent mortgages.

BACKGROUND A Wall Street Journal investigative report related that, according to the Federal Financial Institutions Examination Council examination of the borrowing spree, uncovered financial schemes by low-income housing groups, Hispanic lawmakers, a congressional Hispanic housing initiative, mortgage lenders and brokers, all colluding in fraduent schemes to increase homeownership among Latinos with forged documents which enabled massive fraud.

This was not simply the mortgage market at work. It was fueled by avarice, greed, and Congressional enabling fraudulent practices. In 2005 alone, mortgages to Hispanics jumped by 29%; Latinos with multiple fraudulent identities in low-paying jobs obtained subprime mortgages for prime properties---soaring to 169%.

(Research provided by Wall Street Journal. Some material excerpted from the NY Times).

14 posted on 09/26/2013 7:35:17 AM PDT by Liz
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To: sickoflibs; Oldpuppymax; HiJinx; Perdogg; stephenjohnbanker; Tennessee Nana
And for all we know many of them were just sweet talking latinos and not serious anyway.

And sweet talking the Chamber of Commerce and pro-amnesty lobbyists? Maybe, but they might be harder to fool, and the consequences for double crossing them is more difficult to fix.

Before this announcement, John Carter (TX-31, my district, and a member of what was at that time the pro-amnesty House "Gang of 7" but now is smaller without Carter and Johnson, leaving only one GOP member and 4 Dems) was selling amnesty at those groups in person. He also tried it at a Texas Tea Party group this year, but they were not buying, and in fact some members were talking about a primary challenge after that event.

15 posted on 09/26/2013 11:52:50 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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To: sickoflibs; Oldpuppymax; HiJinx; Perdogg; stephenjohnbanker; Tennessee Nana; Lakeshark; onyx
Compare the new "Gang of 5" with the optimistic House "Gang of 8" in April this year: GOP sources familiar with the negotiations going on in the bipartisan House immigration working group believe those lawmakers could be ready to introduce their bill in May. Issues remain to be worked out, including some politically thorny ones, but the House group’s joint statement presents the clearest sign yet that they are close to getting to yes.

Don't celebrate too soon though. We know what happens in horror movies after they think the monster is dead.

16 posted on 09/26/2013 12:04:22 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Fool me once, shame on you -- twice, shame on me -- 100 times, it's U. S. immigration policy.)
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