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Obama presidency fulfills doomsday prophecy in the Bible?
Examiner ^ | August 30, 2013 | Martha

Posted on 08/30/2013 9:53:53 AM PDT by usalady

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To: usalady

Where is the part about the jug-eared girly man?


41 posted on 08/30/2013 10:55:42 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("You bring me the man, I'll find you the crime" - Lavrentiy Beria [and Eric Holder])
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To: no-to-illegals

I love you.


42 posted on 08/30/2013 10:56:02 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: no-to-illegals

My pastor says.the same. He will create choas to calm it and be hailed a hero.


43 posted on 08/30/2013 10:56:27 AM PDT by autumnraine (America how long will you be so deaf and dumb to thoe tumbril wheels carrying you to the guillotine?)
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To: no-to-illegals

When I lived in Seattle, my father and I did a lot of saturday morning discussions on the bible. He’s hard nosed about the KJV being the only “real” english translation. Meanwhile, I found it comical that my “KJV only” pastor, in just last week’s sermon, “re-interpreted” for the congregation a confusing word in the KJV to the very word the NIV uses. :-D

My father strongly believes the Pope is the antichrist. My take on all this stuff is that he could be, but I’m not standing firm on any of this prediction stuff. Look how it works in the bible. Nobody ever KNOWS what the prophesies mean before they happen except those given divine revelation.

And that was NEVER through a book sold at Costco.

I see most prophesy as having two main purposes:

1. Stating a message from God regarding why the thing prophesied about is going to happen.
2. When it happens, it is proven to be prophesy and, therefore, the message is amplified.

Sitting around trying to figure out what this or that prophesy means and trying to nail it to individuals and events is an exercise in futility. John the baptist KNEW who Jesus was when he saw him. He didn’t have to search and interpret prophesy or consult biblical scholars. God showed him what he needed to know, when he needed it.


44 posted on 08/30/2013 10:57:34 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Lazamataz

{{{HUGS}}} Laz!


45 posted on 08/30/2013 10:59:39 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: autumnraine

It can and will at some point be what will be our history. God said it Will Be.


46 posted on 08/30/2013 11:00:34 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: cuban leaf

No doom here! Waiting ... am simply waiting.


47 posted on 08/30/2013 11:01:19 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: no-to-illegals
Dad, before passing, said obama was the anti-christ. I trust Dad.

It is a wonderful thing to remember the wisdom of our parents. But sometimes, a parent is wrong in his or her views and interpretations.

According to Scripture, the Antichrist will have the satanically-inspired credentials and wisdom to negotiate a peace treat between Muslims and the Jewish people. Is ANYONE, anywhere going to trust Obama about ANYTHING?

The man is a spoiled brat who supports sodomy, hatred, bigotry, racism, revenge, lawless behavior of specific ethnic groups, lawless behavior of specific individuals, hate, immorality. He has no wisdom, speaks no truth, inspires no trust. He has betrayed everyone who has ever depended on him, and he has consorted--and consorts--with known enemies of America, people who have killed Americans with bombs.

Would it be safe to say that Obama has neither the brains nor the personal qualities to be the Antichrist who can lead all peoples of the earth for seven years?
48 posted on 08/30/2013 11:01:57 AM PDT by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: righttackle44

I’ll trust Dad.


49 posted on 08/30/2013 11:03:51 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: autumnraine

First a preface: I say everything below as a bible believing Christian.

I’ve noticed that for many, many people, the church culture is a place where you can basically switch off your intellect and trust any claim allowed to enter through the door. I’ve seen claims made in a church by visiting preachers and authors that are utter and complete nonsense. Some of it I even believed at the time.

And con men have figured this out. It is nothing new. Look at the old time travelling “bible salesmen”. What is interesting about this is that we are instructed, “...be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves...”.

It is a HUGE mistake to believe the claims of another man just because he claims to come in the name of God. We are to study the scriptures and pray to honor our responsibilities to ensure and nurture a personal relationship with Christ.

The rest will be revealed to us as we have need, as it was to Stephen.


50 posted on 08/30/2013 11:04:06 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf

and none shall know the time nor the place ... yes ... perfect.


51 posted on 08/30/2013 11:07:50 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Lera

The book is written as fiction.


This is part of the problem for me. I have a HUGE problem with the Left Behind series for a similar reason. People often don’t know where the real leaves off and the fiction begins in books of this type. That they suggest to get their inspiration from REAL prophesy - the single most confusing and controversial aspect of the bible - people can confuse it, quite literally, with the word of God.

It’s why audio “dramatazations” of actual books of the bible include absolutely NO words that are not there. Heck, in one of these a croud is shouting and you can’t make out a single actual word anyone is saying. It sounds odd, but the producers of the audio did not want to be inserting words that were not there.

I don’t handle “bible prophesy based” fiction particularly well. I avoid it at all costs, frankly.


52 posted on 08/30/2013 11:10:13 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf

and it all comes down to you.


53 posted on 08/30/2013 11:11:39 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Texas Fossil
KJV works better, but were there any bricks? The buildings looked like it had molded concrete facing which seemed to all turn to dust.

I don't know if the hewn stone was a cornerstone and symbolic, but I think there was just the one.

The sycamore that was uprooted in front of the church was replaced with some kind of evergreen tree.

A member of Congress arrogantly read one of the passages of scripture, we will rebuilt better . . .words to that effect.

They talk of the duality of scripture. I don't think we are supposed to privately interpret prophecy but you can't help pondering over it.

Yesterday all over the web was Ezekiel 28 and 29 plus a Psalm. They deal with Gog Magog, Tubal, a northern land. It fits Russia and the satellite countries.

But they talk of riding on horses. How does that fit in with today's military vehicles? Maybe they will have to revert to horses for some unknown reason.

I looked up Cahn's church and was curious about it. I wrote an email and asked, among other things, if/how they celebrated the Eucharist. I received no reply.

I think he is a great preacher, can really help us with the Old Testament through his Jewish background and knowledge of the Hebrew language.

54 posted on 08/30/2013 11:12:34 AM PDT by Aliska
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To: cuban leaf
1. A charlatan that, at the end of the day, will go down hard. This seems to be supported by, despite his mind-boggling bungling of his duties, he STILL was re-elected, ensuring that he will be around when it comes time to pay the piper he hired. 2. He IS the Beast of Revelation and it will take the overt actions of God to bring him down.

or #3 He is a judgement on the nation. I do not believe he is the antichrist . I do believe he is anti Christ I do believe he is helping to set up antichrist kingdom and that he is deliberately destroying this nation to do so.

I believe we have the government we deserve because this nation has turned it's back on God and kicked him out.

I also believe that is reason why America is not anywhere clearly in prophesy.

Eze_39:6 And I will send a fire on Magog, and among them that dwell carelessly in the isles: and they shall know that I am the LORD.

55 posted on 08/30/2013 11:14:37 AM PDT by Lera (Proverbs 29:2)
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According to Scripture, the Antichrist will have the satanically-inspired credentials and wisdom to negotiate a peace treat between Muslims and the Jewish people. Is ANYONE, anywhere going to trust Obama about ANYTHING?

All of this aside, I say Obama is not the anti-Christ, as the anti-Christ would never need to use a teleprompter.

56 posted on 08/30/2013 11:14:44 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: Aliska

up to the horse’s bridle so shall the flow be.


57 posted on 08/30/2013 11:15:12 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Lera

Amen ... Amen


58 posted on 08/30/2013 11:15:41 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: IYAS9YAS

LOL .... and it all comes down to a teleprompter.


59 posted on 08/30/2013 11:16:42 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: no-to-illegals

I was thinking about that and also modern military vehicles that are good in the Middle East terrain. Maybe something happens where they have to revert to horses. It really seems like the horses were literal.


60 posted on 08/30/2013 11:16:58 AM PDT by Aliska
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