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Reid Admits It….Single-Payer Was Their Intention All Along
Flopping Aces ^ | 08-10-13 | Curt

Posted on 08/10/2013 11:22:38 AM PDT by Starman417

reid obamacare

As I wrote about in my earlier post....the whole system was designed to fail and either lawmakers were too stupid to understand this or knew it from the beginning, and wanted it:

From the administration’s point of view, conceding that key parts of Obamacare cannot be implemented isn’t a failure if the effect is to swell enrollment on the exchanges. The insurance subsidy entitlement, administered through the exchanges, is the single-payer scheme at the heart of the law. If you peel away provisions like the employer mandate and Medicaid expansion, what’s left is a universal health care entitlement—enforced through the individual mandate and administered through the exchanges.

They wanted single payer, couldn't get it 4 years ago, but now Harry Reid has read his ouija board and it now tells him its ok to talk about their real intentions:

Reid said he thinks the country has to “work our way past” insurance-based health care during a Friday night appearance on Vegas PBS’ program “Nevada Week in Review.”

“What we’ve done with Obamacare is have a step in the right direction, but we’re far from having something that’s going to work forever,” Reid said.

When then asked by panelist Steve Sebelius whether he meant ultimately the country would have to have a health care system that abandoned insurance as the means of accessing it, Reid said: “Yes, yes. Absolutely, yes.”

The idea of introducing a single-payer national health care system to the United States, or even just a public option, sent lawmakers into a tizzy back in 2009, when Reid was negotiating the health care bill.

“We had a real good run at the public option … don’t think we didn’t have a tremendous number of people who wanted a single-payer system,” Reid said on the PBS program, recalling how then-Sen. Joe Lieberman’s opposition to the idea of a public option made them abandon the notion and start from scratch.

Eventually, Reid decided the public option was unworkable.

“We had to get a majority of votes,” Reid said. “In fact, we had to get a little extra in the Senate, we have to get 60.”

So there it is. They knew they couldn't get it past the American people as single-payer a few years ago so they made a plan that first will get people hooked on the Socialist drug...you know "reduced cost, improved benefits, increased availability" and all that bulls**t. But when costs start spiraling, and people start being fired, reduced hours, or straight up told to go to the exchanges by their employer....then you know the disaster has hit.

And by that point no one will be able to get rid of it.

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TOPICS: Government; Health/Medicine; Politics
KEYWORDS: 113th; abortion; bhohealthcare; deathpanels; demagogicparty; dncstrategy; harryreid; nevada; obama; obamacare; reid; singlepayer; socialism; stevesebelius; zerocare

1 posted on 08/10/2013 11:22:38 AM PDT by Starman417
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To: Starman417

They are invested in the failure of the current law.
I’m sure when they call for a single payer system...the Unions and Govt workers will have the Cadillac plan under the system. Or there will still be private insurance..for the privileged few who can pay out of their own pocket..or have the govt pay for them.


2 posted on 08/10/2013 11:27:12 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Starman417

Yes, single payer for everyone. No more private insurance managed by largely a non-union work force. Single payer run by the government with no competition and a unionized work force. An end to the decentralized health care system again
primarily non-union to a a system under federal government rules and regulations where even the doctors belong to a labor union and bargain collectively!!


3 posted on 08/10/2013 11:38:30 AM PDT by Maine Mariner
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To: Starman417

Reid is bought and paid for. There is no need for the NSA when it comes to this scoundrel.


4 posted on 08/10/2013 11:40:20 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Producing Talk Show Prep since 1998.)
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To: Starman417

Communism will work this time, because Reid, Pelosi, Biden and Obama are in charge. They’re not like the others. They’re a whole new breed of idiots.


6 posted on 08/10/2013 11:49:21 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Starman417

The USA should just change its name to Gfeater Detroit....


7 posted on 08/10/2013 12:02:03 PM PDT by freebilly (Creepy and the Ass Crackers....)
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To: freebilly

Greater....


8 posted on 08/10/2013 12:02:36 PM PDT by freebilly (Creepy and the Ass Crackers....)
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To: Starman417

Ping


9 posted on 08/10/2013 12:17:25 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Starman417

Black market medicine is in our future, if we live long enough and can afford it. Just ask Canada.


10 posted on 08/10/2013 12:35:46 PM PDT by onona (The Earth is the insane asylum for the universe)
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To: Starman417

What’s the big deal” Obama admitted this a long ways back.

06-30-2003: A single-payer health care plan, a universal health care plan. That’s what I’d like to see.

03-24-2007: My commitment is to make sure that we’ve got universal healthcare for all Americans by the end of my first term as president. I would hope that we could set up a system that allows those who can’t go through their employer to access a federal system or a state pool of some sort. But I don’t think we’re going to be able to eliminate employer coverage immediately. There’s going to be potentially some transition process. I can envision a decade out, or 15 years out, or 20 years out. - Barack Obama


11 posted on 08/10/2013 12:36:28 PM PDT by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

That’s a good point. They hope to stop the pendulum.
They do not plan to establish a dictatorship to safeguard their socialist revolution; the purpose of their revolution was to safeguard a dictatorship. (Orwell)
They are interested solely in power. Power for its own sake.
I don’t think the GOP begins to comprehend how serious they are. Millions of new citizens with no idea of how a Republic works, but with an understanding of socialist entitlements and grievance politics. Cloward-Piven becoming real. The grim determination of the left to strip us of natural law rights.
This isn’t going to end well.


12 posted on 08/10/2013 1:28:17 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Starman417

Well, at least it’s official. Obamacare is a scam.


13 posted on 08/10/2013 2:04:28 PM PDT by popdonnelly (The right to self-defense is older than the Constitution.)
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To: tumblindice
I don’t think the GOP begins to comprehend how serious they are. Millions of new citizens with no idea of how a Republic works, but with an understanding of socialist entitlements and grievance politics. Cloward-Piven becoming real. The grim determination of the left to strip us of natural law rights. This isn’t going to end well.

True, and very frightening.

They are interested solely in power. Power for its own sake.

I still think that they're Marxist true believers, but maybe they're deluding themselves with that belief. Zippy is certainly living an opulent lifestyle, uncharacteristic of the beret-wearing, leather jacket crowd.

14 posted on 08/10/2013 2:06:13 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Starman417
the whole system was designed to fail and either lawmakers were too stupid to understand this or knew it from the beginning

They ARE stupid, but I think most of them knew this from the beginning. Their goal, is to collapse the system.

15 posted on 08/10/2013 2:14:30 PM PDT by Mark17 (Yesterday I couldn't spell it. Today I are one, a creepy a$$ cracker)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Starman417.
When then asked by panelist Steve Sebelius whether he meant ultimately the country would have to have a health care system that abandoned insurance as the means of accessing it, Reid said: "Yes, yes. Absolutely, yes."

16 posted on 08/10/2013 4:52:40 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's no coincidence that some "conservatives" echo the hard left.)
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To: Starman417

Which of us didn’t know that socialized medicine was their objective all along?


17 posted on 08/11/2013 8:08:12 AM PDT by maxwellsmart_agent
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