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The Trayvon Martin Case, Update 32.5: The Prosecution Rests; The ME Explodes!
Stately McDaniel Manor ^ | July 6, 2013 | Mike McDaniel

Posted on 07/06/2013 5:44:33 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

The final day of the prosecution’s case remained true to form in every respect, and also provided another glimpse—actually, a substantial look—into the prosecution’s closing arguments.

Sybrina Martin, Trayvon Martin’s Mother: The first witness of the day was Sybrina Martin, who testified that the screaming voice in the Lauer 911 recording is Trayvon Martin. The prosecution, not wanting to open the field to anything she might know about Trayvon, kept their questions limited to only that.

On cross O’Mara tried to make it clear that Sybrina might have reasons other than absolute truth to identify the voice as Trayvon. He may have had some success in that Sybrina seemed not only coached, but potentially rehearsed. She often tried to avoid directly answering O’Mara’s questions and parsed her answers so as not to concede even the most obvious points, even those not harmful to the prosecution. Her overall appearance was stoic, and the potential waterworks did not materialize.

It was clear that she was a prosecution witness through and through–a strangely rare occurance. It’s unfortunate that the jury will never hear that she has already won a seven-figure settlement, and has a continuing financial interest in the outcome of the case.

Jaharvis Martin, Trayvon’s Brother: A soft-spoken and well-spoken young man, Jaharvis confirmed his mother’s testimony, and like his mother, testified to nothing else. On cross, however, his credibility suffered badly. O’Mara caused him to admit that when he first heard the recording in the office of the Sanford Mayor with a substantial number of other people, he told others he was not sure the voice was Trayvon’s, but later changed his mind. He said he didn’t want to believe it was Trayvon due to “shock,” “sadness” and “denial.”

As with his mother, I detected coaching, and his answer regarding why he didn’t identify the voice as Trayvon’s at his first exposure to the recording seemed rehearsed, however, his demeanor was substantially more effective than his mother’s, and I suspect many viewers not familiar with these matters might not have picked up on that. He did not, for example, give the appearance of trying to avoid cooperating with the defense.

Dr. Shipping Bao, Medical Examiner: Dr. Bao, unlike Dr. Rao, actually conducted the autopsy on Trayvon Martin, which gave the prosecution the opportunity to display a wide variety of graphic autopsy photographs so that Bao could, in a perfunctory manner, identify them. The primary purpose, of course, was to elicit revulsion and sympathy in the jury................

FINAL THOUGHTS:

Two weeks of prosecution witnesses have ended without the prosecution proving, beyond any doubt, the three elements of the offense. As they offered no probable cause to prove those elements in the affidavit for the charge (Update 2) this is hardly surprising. In the many months from Zimmerman’s arrest to the trial, the prosecution could find no new evidence to demonstrate that the decision of the Sanford Police and the local prosecutor was wrong. The prosecution was also unable to prove beyond any doubt that Zimmerman’s self-defense account was unsupportable. In fact, most of their witnesses supported it, either fully or in part.

For readers unfamiliar with the workings of the law and the criminal justice system, it’s difficult to explain how utterly amazing and bizarre this is. As I’ve written, it’s as though the entire system suddenly turned backwards. For a prosecutor to complete his case and to be unable to disprove self-defense, offering nothing but theories unsupported by any credible evidence, and for a prosecutor to be unable to offer evidence to fulfill the elements of the offense is simply astonishing. It demonstrates what I, and others, have been saying for a very long time: this case should never have been filed; there is no evidence of a crime.

I expect a very aggressive, effective and devastating defense case. Consider how badly the prosecution did on offense, when they had every advantage in presenting and proving their case. Will they do better when they’re playing catch up?


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To: XenaLee
I wonder if Brandy or her sister will be called by the Defense to testify.

In related news: "Fireworks Display Goes Awry. Sets fire to Sanford Holiday Inn where witnesses from the Zimmerman Trial were staying."


201 posted on 07/06/2013 10:37:51 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: Uncle Chip

Where were you getting your feed for the coverage? I didn’t hear that exchange, though I’ve read several references to it. I’ve gone looking for it on video, but haven’t found it. I did find a video that I suspect had that exchange edited out, or maybe it was scrubbed during the live feed using time delay. Would you please watch this video, and tell me if this is where it occurred? And if possible, could you (or anybody) please share a link to a video with that exchange? Pretty please?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKJF9iqcqls . At about 1 hour, 2 minutes, and 25 seconds he’s saying something about “nobody knows...” and it seems like something was scrubbed from that part of the tape.

I missed a lot of testimony, but I was watching during this part, and never heard the exchange so many people have mentioned since then. I was watching on an Internet feed (posted early in the live thread) that was a few seconds behind the MSNBC feed, but had no ads. So I’m sure it would have been easy for them to cut that out without me noticing.


202 posted on 07/06/2013 10:45:18 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: UCANSEE2

The Bao testimony seems like it could benefit from an entire article devoted to it.


203 posted on 07/06/2013 10:46:34 AM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: showme_the_Glory

Amish, of course.. They are SOOOOoooo predictable.. :)


204 posted on 07/06/2013 11:02:22 AM PDT by carlo3b (Speechless in Sugar Land)
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To: IrishBrigade; carlo3b
but I also strongly submit that a ‘character’ does indeed exist for the concept of ‘racial blackness’, and it has existed for a long time.

OK. But, what specifically IS that concept, beyond being the underdog and the eternal victim?

We're on two different tracks here. I am examining the corruption of language and the intellectual incoherence that causes. I believe you are speaking to experience on the ground. My daddy raised no fools and I do not knowingly put myself in unsafe situations. There are white neighborhoods (local trailer parks) that I would avoid, day or night.)

My original challenge is to use of the term "black community" by a FReeper who I know to be solid. I challenged it because conservatives get trapped in dialogue by accepting our opponents wrong headed presuppositions.

205 posted on 07/06/2013 11:21:30 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: BykrBayb

I was listening to WFT but took that quote from a reporter’s tweet as I thought it would be more accurate but another poster clued me into the actual words that were a little different but essentially the same thing:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3039716/posts?page=142#142

It was at the 43:00 part —

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKJF9iqcqls


206 posted on 07/06/2013 11:29:31 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Thank you!

I was watching most of this cross, but I hadn’t seen that part. (Always these interruptions!)

That was even more fun than reading it. Ima go watch again!


207 posted on 07/06/2013 11:52:52 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Uncle Chip

I am really blown away that the toxicology report was not allowed. The other stuff, from a legal standpoint, although unfair, I can understand.


208 posted on 07/06/2013 12:12:58 PM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: don-o
Can't top this;-{)


209 posted on 07/06/2013 12:55:08 PM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: JoeProBono

Photo of the Year!
“You will not say that, “”GZ was truthfull””, again”

You made my week. Thank you


210 posted on 07/06/2013 1:01:56 PM PDT by GOYAKLA (Waiting for the Golden Screw to be removed from Obama's navel and his a$$ falls off!)
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To: JoeProBono

It’s what Bernie has been doing for two weeks — beating his own witnesses.


211 posted on 07/06/2013 1:47:06 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: RummyChick
The Stand Your Ground law is not part of this case.

I thought they were asking his instructor if the class covered Florida's Stand Your Ground Law.

212 posted on 07/06/2013 1:57:31 PM PDT by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: XenaLee

Forget about Dexter, I can’t wait until Monday and watch the defense put this circus to shame. If it wasn’t for the hell GZ has been through, I’d almost want a guilty veridict to see Nelson appealed and this thrown out for good. Hopefully the Jury sees through this and the toxicology and fighting history comes into evidence, certainly we want Bao back to explain his new THC opinion, so let’s remind him to bring his notes ;)


213 posted on 07/06/2013 2:21:28 PM PDT by not_surprised2
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To: Uncle Chip; All
Speaking of photos....this has been driving me crazy trying to figure out who this woman on the right, in the front row, is. I believe it was from the first day of the testimony portion of the trial, after the jury selection.

Can anyone identify this woman? I know that face from somewhere.


214 posted on 07/06/2013 2:21:52 PM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: not_surprised2

Oh God....please....NOOOO! Not Bao again!!!

lol


215 posted on 07/06/2013 2:23:14 PM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: XenaLee

Who is the woman with black hair behind him to his left???


216 posted on 07/06/2013 2:24:13 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: UCANSEE2

Isn’t the sisters name Dee Dee?


217 posted on 07/06/2013 2:25:42 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: UCANSEE2

In a related story, this just in:

Apparently, vital evidence in the form of personal notes belonging to a witness in the George Zimmerman trial were destroyed in a raging fire caused by a fireworks display that got out of hand at the Sanford Holiday Inn.

Other witnesses to the freak accident, who were staying at the hotel, claimed that a strangely smiling Asian man was running about in only his boxer briefs underwear crying “My brains, my brains!”, but nobody could understand what he was referring to, since no apparent injuries to the man could be determined.

In other news.....


218 posted on 07/06/2013 2:32:48 PM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: Uncle Chip

She looks familiar too. I don’ have any idea.

And she had the weirdest expressions going on while the Defense was up. You know how the left has problems controlling their facial ‘expressions of outrage’...lol.


219 posted on 07/06/2013 2:36:35 PM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: Uncle Chip

Being a bit dyslexic every time WFT is posted it appears to be WTF. Sure glad don’t live nearby. ;-)

Thanks for helping sort through this fiasco.
Wonder how the depositions are going?!?!!


220 posted on 07/06/2013 3:30:01 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: not_surprised2

It would be humorous if every other witness testified that it was George yelling for help. His dad, wife, sister, brother, aunt, friend , co worker, students , exercise leader, etc


221 posted on 07/06/2013 3:37:25 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: Old Sarge

I don’t need to prove it.
It is not part of the case.

There are certain things you have to do with that law BEFORE TRIAL and Defense decided not to do them.

Google it.


222 posted on 07/06/2013 3:50:21 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: UCANSEE2

Again, it is NOT part of the case AT THIS TIME. Did GZ seek a STAND YOUR GROUND immunity hearing??

The answer is NO.


223 posted on 07/06/2013 3:51:53 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: carlo3b
You have email.

Leni/MinuteGal

224 posted on 07/06/2013 3:56:17 PM PDT by MinuteGal (')
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To: RummyChick

Just because the Prosecution is trying show that GZ knew about Stand Your Ground does not mean the actual law is part of this case as people here keep trying to claim.

Instead of people saying PROVE IT..sheesh...look at the law.

Even MOM has said they are not using it at this time.


225 posted on 07/06/2013 4:01:01 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: gitmo

“I thought they were asking his instructor if the class covered Florida’s Stand Your Ground Law.”

Absolutely.

GZ’s knowledge of that particular law is FAR DIFFERENT that using the actual law to defend himself.

He isn’t.

Not yet.

So what if he knew about Stand Your Ground. It’s not even relevant. It’s not a defense being used by GZ.

Etc.


226 posted on 07/06/2013 4:19:26 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick
HI there. Nice to have a weekend of relief from the trial. How are you doing ?

Again, it is NOT part of the case AT THIS TIME.

It's not the hinge pin of the Defense Case, but the Prosecution has brought it up several times, is that not true ?

Did GZ seek a STAND YOUR GROUND immunity hearing??

I agree with you, NO. And that was before the trial.

227 posted on 07/06/2013 4:21:29 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: hoosiermama
Isn’t the sisters name Dee Dee?

No. She had two different names she uses. They were both the 'kunta kinte' type names, and I tried to find the source article, but it has been WIPED OFF the INTERNET.

What it said was that a FRIEND of BRANDY's SISTER had a daughter named DEE DEE.

Coincidence? Probably.

228 posted on 07/06/2013 4:25:40 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: hoosiermama

I think that since these depositions are taking place this late in the game it indicates that O’Mara/West intend to wipe the floor with a number of people next week — including Crump and Jeantel.


229 posted on 07/06/2013 4:26:20 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Flintlock

The US is the only country in the world that uses “Hispanic” as a separate racial category. I think THAT is asinine in and of itself.


230 posted on 07/06/2013 4:26:35 PM PDT by Clemenza ("History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil governm)
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To: Uncle Chip

Pray for their safety.
With sis’s drug problems there may be a relationship to post her:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3039338/posts?page=2965#2965


231 posted on 07/06/2013 4:47:44 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: Uncle Chip

I want to hear the what the retired US Army colonel says.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/03/29/george-zimmermans-father-claims-trayvon-martin-beat-his-son-threatened-his-life/


232 posted on 07/06/2013 5:15:07 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: Sacajaweau
I’m betting it’s Lloyds of London...and yes, they will go after it. It’s called insurance fraud.

I don't think so. This was a settlement, not a trial. The insurance company decided it was cheaper to settle than to take a chance on a jury judgment, and I'm sure the settlement was not contingent on the outcome of the trial. Unless they can prove that the Martins or their lawyers lied or misrepresented material facts in filing their claim, then I think the insurance company is stuck no matter what.

233 posted on 07/06/2013 5:15:10 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Uncle Chip

Who was in the meeting at the mayors office. .... Shake down? Extortion?


234 posted on 07/06/2013 5:33:20 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: UCANSEE2; maggief

Maggie may be able to help you find the name give her details you remember
Maggie is the best! If anyone can find it she will


235 posted on 07/06/2013 5:53:09 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: Uncle Chip
Who is the woman with black hair behind him to his left???

That is some jury consultant, not working for either side but providing commentary for Fox. I saw her on Greta last night.

236 posted on 07/06/2013 5:53:26 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: hoosiermama; UCANSEE2

??

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:gOAvXukrdE0J:diwataman.wordpress.com/the-nettles18-breaking-news-gz-open-thread/+&cd=11&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a

Someone on CTH posted some info about Brandy’s sister Tabatha and how Tabatha apparently has a daughter called DeeDee. I thought CTH had already discussed this and determined it was a false lead, but I couldn’t find any evidence of the discussion So I did some general ‘net searching and found that a Tabatha Green in Orlando had a baby on Jan 7 1994, and the baby’s name is Kadiyah. I suppose it’s possible that a nickname for Kadiyah is “DeeDee”, but obviously this is just guessing. I find Kadiyah’s age interesting though, with that birthdate she would have been 18 the day Trademark was killed. It might be why she was ruled out earlier, when we thought DeeDee was 16.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1994-01-23/news/9401200069_1_florida-hospital-altamonte-park-memorial-hospital-arnold-palmer-hospital

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Someone on CTH posted some info about Brandy’s sister Tabatha and how Tabatha apparently has a daughter called DeeDee. I thought CTH had already discussed this and determined it was a false lead, but I couldn’t find any evidence of the discussion So I did some general ‘net searching and found that a Tabatha Green in Orlando had a baby on Jan 7 1994, and the baby’s name is Kadiyah. I suppose it’s possible that a nickname for Kadiyah is “DeeDee”, but obviously this is just guessing. I find Kadiyah’s age interesting though, with that birthdate she would have been 18 the day Trademark was killed. It might be why she was ruled out earlier, when we thought DeeDee was 16.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/1994-01-23/news/9401200069_1_florida-hospital-altamonte-park-memorial-hospital-arnold-palmer-hospital

I don’t know how to link to specific comments on CTH, so here’s a link to the thread. Just do a find on “tabatha”.

http://theconservativetreehouse.com/2013/04/09/ideological-dilemma-who-will-respond-to-the-fifth-dca-request-the-state-coreybdlr-or-crumpblackwell-poll-attached/#comment-366652

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Green is not Brandi’s maiden name, therefore it is unlikely Tabatha is her sister, maybe related by ex-husband? Her sister Zakiya…..and she lived with Brandi. She also has a drug-related record. http://www.re-newsit.com/2012/06/trayvon-martin-who-is-brandy-green.html


237 posted on 07/06/2013 6:06:55 PM PDT by maggief
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To: UCANSEE2; maggief; Uncle Chip

Thanks Maggie
So was he actually staying with Brandy or were they some how connected to the OxyContin ring that the Feds were coming down on in Stanford the week of TM s death ? Cvs was co operating but the picture of people going thru the drive thru were the bottom of the chain with the mention of them being collected and sent to Miami and further distributed from there


238 posted on 07/06/2013 6:39:43 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: NKP_Vet
This kind of comment usually gets one in big trouble with the critical theory types:

He also said George Zimmerman ... is "colorblind."

239 posted on 07/06/2013 6:53:49 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: Uncle Chip
we still don’t have your expense report in for the month of June

Expenses, June 1-July 1, 2013

Change Tracy's Tattoo from Crips Gang Marker
to Albrecht Durer-type "Praying Hands" motif................$2,119.35

Modest frocks for Moms.........................$947.50

Photoshopping Trayvon publicity photos..........$1,011.21

Nails for Rachel...............................$375.11

OCR Program
(for changing cursive to block letters.)....$84.95

TOTAL.............................$4,538.12

Uncle Chip, these are the only big ticket items from last month. Normal per diem, mileage, entertainment, etc, covered in ST T Form #9MM. But OTOH, acting lessons for the Moms and Rachel, make-up, wigs etc, were picked up by CNN and MSNBC. Gifts of St. Trayvon Memorabilia Gear to Judge, Jury, and Prosecuting Attorneys are charged to the Promotion Budget.

240 posted on 07/06/2013 8:39:15 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk ("Obama" The Movie. Introducing Reggie Love as "Monica." .)
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To: Kenny Bunk
Those are reasonable. Please submit and we will have corporate cut a check.

Beginning in July Obamacare approved expense report policy will cover optometric cosmetic eyeglass care and hairstyling services for those spending 15 minutes or more in the chair, and gum chewed in court as long as it is prescribed by a dentist.

And as always corporate covers Holiday Inn Express bills for all state witnesses -- but just for the night before they are to prefabricate testify..

Please note: shipment of Bao notepaper is on its way per request sent FedEx.

241 posted on 07/06/2013 9:15:25 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: RummyChick

I would expect anyone with a CC permit to know the relevant state laws. Everyone is acting like that’s a bad thing.


242 posted on 07/06/2013 10:49:32 PM PDT by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: RummyChick

I would expect anyone with a CC permit to know the relevant state laws. Everyone is acting like that’s a bad thing.


243 posted on 07/06/2013 10:49:33 PM PDT by gitmo ( If your theology doesn't become your biography it's useless.)
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To: Uncle Chip; Kenny Bunk

Next month make sure DD gets a pedicure with the MANI. AND a facial. .. A complete facial!


244 posted on 07/06/2013 11:28:49 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: RummyChick
I don’t need to prove it.

Then I shall be judged by your standard of proof. Join The List.

245 posted on 07/07/2013 5:51:21 AM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: Old Sarge

Why is it so hard for YOU to understand that you should do your own research before spouting things off that aren’t true and demanding others to show why you don’t know what you are talking about.

Right now, GZ is not using Stand Your Ground for his defense.

Good lord, do some research into it It will take you about 10 seconds TO FIND OUT YOU ARE WRONG


246 posted on 07/07/2013 6:14:14 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Old Sarge

btw, you are making WILD allegations and the very premise of your WILD allegation isn’t even true.

It makes you look like a fool for refusing to find out the truth.

GZ- NOT USING STAND YOUR GROUND DEFENSE AT THIS TIME.

I will bet you EVERYTHING YOU OWN THAT I AM RIGHT


247 posted on 07/07/2013 6:16:55 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: gitmo

It backfired big time for Bernie as it let a lot of information come in about self defense from an educated, well spoken BLACK person who said “How you doin’ George as he waved at him and smiled at the beginning of the cross.


248 posted on 07/07/2013 6:19:51 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

and btw, even Fox news said ALMOST A YEAR AGO...That MOM said GZ would not use Stand your Ground

Just shows that some people are too old or too lazy or just don’t want to know the truth when a simple 10 second search can provide info.


249 posted on 07/07/2013 6:26:42 AM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Old Sarge

http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/04/30/17983728-zimmerman-waives-stand-your-ground-defense-for-now?lite
Zimmerman waives ‘stand your ground’ defense — for now


250 posted on 07/07/2013 6:59:38 AM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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