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Caught just in time: 'Bombers about to plant MORE devices, plot spoiled by release of CCTV photos'
Daily Mail ^ | April 21, 2013 | Snejana Farberov, Mail Staff and James Nye

Posted on 04/21/2013 8:46:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The Boston bombers were planning more attacks across the city and were already building the bombs to do this says the city's police commissioner Ed Davis.

Davis says it's his belief that 19-year-old Dzhokhar Tsarnaev and his 26-year-old brother Tamerlan 'were going to attack other individuals' — and Davis says that's based on the evidence at the scene and the cache of weapons the brothers had at their disposal.

However, Davis claims releasing photos of the two Boston Marathon bombing suspects 'forced them out of their hideout' and spurred them into Thursday and Friday's deadly night time car chaos and gun battle with law enforcement.

'It forced them out of their hideout and they decided to commit further violent acts. But it’s my belief that they were already manufacturing explosive devices. Further violent acts were inevitable,' Davis told The Boston Globe.

The suspects 'were not making those explosives for nothing,' Davis told The Globe. 'There was a plan there, and I believe that tragically Sean Collier lost his life, but he was truly protecting the citizens of the city'

Handguns, a rifle and at least six bombs, three of which detonated were found at the scene on Friday after officers had their first showdown with the Boston bombing brothers in Watertown, Massachusetts.

And it is believed that federal prosecutors are putting the final touches together on charges against Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, despite his throat wound leaving him unable to speak.

The most serious charge available to federal prosecutors would be the use of a weapon of mass destruction to kill people, which carries a possible death sentence. Massachusetts does not have the death penalty.

CBS News' John Miller has claimed investigators believe the wound to the back of his neck is evidence that Dzhokhar attempted to end his own life.....

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; bombers; boston; bostonbombers; bostonmarathon; bostonmassacre; closedcircuittv; jihad; terrorism
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1 posted on 04/21/2013 8:46:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bump


2 posted on 04/21/2013 8:47:55 PM PDT by Jet Jaguar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; Travis McGee

Either the kid is a lousy shot or there is much more to the truth than ‘he shot himself through his mouth into his throat’. Sounds more like some angry cop forgot he had rubber boolits in his gun and shot the punk killer in the mouth after they had him down and restrained.


3 posted on 04/21/2013 8:52:39 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

three days weren’t enough?

and how would CCTV cameras have stopped them? they interviewed them and still it happened.

the only reason we got them was the witness/ victim


4 posted on 04/21/2013 8:53:02 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Jet Jaguar

Hard to believe a gunshot into the mouth and through the back of the neck could miss vital tissues.


5 posted on 04/21/2013 8:54:10 PM PDT by CMB_polarization
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The most serious charge available to federal prosecutors would be the use of a weapon of mass destruction to kill people, which carries a possible death sentence.

I'm happy to prosecute this guy every which way, but calling a homemade bomb a weapon of mass destruction is an indication of how this administration is willing to twist the meanings of words to get its way. By that definition, the Taliban are using WMD's against us in Afghanistan.

6 posted on 04/21/2013 8:54:11 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: 1_Rain_Drop; PGalt

Pingaling ... rubber boolits don’tchaknow.


7 posted on 04/21/2013 8:55:02 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: CMB_polarization

Hard to believe he didnt blow half his face off.
Even with a blank, you’d think he would blow half his face off.


8 posted on 04/21/2013 9:02:13 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1, Half Baked 50c)
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To: Zhang Fei
Thanks(!) for making that point and bringing it to everyone's attention.

I confess that I'm starting to get numb to the constant misuse and dramatic overuse of the language by progressives of all political strips and I failed to even notice until you pointed it out.

9 posted on 04/21/2013 9:02:16 PM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: GBA

It is what the left does.
Words have no solid meaning, they shapeshift.
It is what they are trying to do to the constitution.


10 posted on 04/21/2013 9:04:44 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1, Half Baked 50c)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Certainly, the Feds had a record of interviewing the older brother. Wouldn’t you pull all such records within say 60-90 miles and cross reference with state driver’s license photo’s. I mean, if you had 9,000 law enforcement officers, wouldn’t you spare 5-10 to run that down quickly? Or, are these agencies still protecting their data. I mean, we would never have known the FBI interviewed the older brother had the Aunt not blurted it out. Or, we’d know much later when tempers had cooled.


11 posted on 04/21/2013 9:08:42 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Zhang Fei
By that definition, the Taliban are using WMD's against us in Afghanistan.

Pothead photo Pothead_zpsc1b23518.jpeg

12 posted on 04/21/2013 9:08:46 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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To: null and void

LOL!!


13 posted on 04/21/2013 9:12:26 PM PDT by mylife (Opinions $1, Half Baked 50c)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/04/21/article-2312387-196A7FAC000005DC-586_470x423.jpg

That’s him climbing into the boat, in the homeowner’s backyard? If so, who took the picture? And why wasn’t said picture reported to the authorities earlier?

It CAN’T be him climbing OUT of the boat as he supposedly shot himself??

“CBS News’ John Miller has claimed investigators believe the wound to the back of his neck is evidence that Dzhokhar attempted to end his own life at the culmination of Friday’s dramatic standoff.
‘They say it appears from the wound that he might have stuck a gun in his mouth, and fired and actually just went out the back of his neck without killing him.’”

I’m confused....


14 posted on 04/21/2013 9:13:56 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: null and void

Mad Mo is a pot head!?!


15 posted on 04/21/2013 9:15:33 PM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: mylife; j_guru

Hat tip to j_guru for the graphic.

We’ll see how long photobucket allows it.


16 posted on 04/21/2013 9:16:49 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Prayers for Officer Collier.

Hopefully Obama won’t classify his death as “workplace violence”


17 posted on 04/21/2013 9:18:17 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (Obama's vision - No Job is a Good Job)
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To: Brad's Gramma
The tarp looks all torn up. If he's climbing into the boat how did it get fixed before the cops came and tore it up again?

Very confusing.

18 posted on 04/21/2013 9:18:32 PM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: TigersEye
Mad Mo is a pot head!?!

Yep. Look up the origin of the word assassin...

19 posted on 04/21/2013 9:18:49 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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To: null and void

I knew that was coming. I’ve been aware of the origin, hashhashin, for many decades. I can’t say why.


20 posted on 04/21/2013 9:20:03 PM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: Brad's Gramma

That’s the idea! If you are confused, the truth is not registering ... yet. The disinformation will continue to that end.


21 posted on 04/21/2013 9:20:04 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Zhang Fei
I'm happy to prosecute this guy every which way, but calling a homemade bomb a weapon of mass destruction is an indication of how this administration is willing to twist the meanings of words to get its way. By that definition, the Taliban are using WMD's against us in Afghanistan.

Also by that definition they just vindicated W's invasion of Iraq.

22 posted on 04/21/2013 9:21:21 PM PDT by broken_clock (Nuke'm til they glow, then shoot'em in the dark.)
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To: TigersEye

The tarp was torn up by the cops (yes, I know you know that).

I want to know who took this pic of him climbing, I assume, INTO the boat?

Is this even HIM?


23 posted on 04/21/2013 9:21:32 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: TigersEye

OK, thanks for the set-up!


24 posted on 04/21/2013 9:22:29 PM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression and Democrats use them. Gun confiscation enables tyranny.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We need to thank the UK press for doing the job that the US press refuses to do.


25 posted on 04/21/2013 9:24:36 PM PDT by matt1234 (The NRA: Redefining "Too big to fail.")
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To: MHGinTN

Heck, I was confused, as were most of us on the Friday thread, watching this unfold.

Stuff was weird then, and it’s still weird now.

Was the neekid guy they arrested the older brother....prior to his being dragged down the street by his younger brother?

Where’s the driver of the car they carjacked? Why’d they let him go?


26 posted on 04/21/2013 9:25:29 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Brad's Gramma

I was sure you knew that too. It certainly looks like him to me. And it looks like the tarp is quite torn up. How can that be a pic of him getting into the boat? When the homeowner found him the tarp was only slightly out of place. A strap was loose or something like that.


27 posted on 04/21/2013 9:25:35 PM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: Brad's Gramma

That’s him climbing out of the boat.


28 posted on 04/21/2013 9:27:01 PM PDT by CMB_polarization
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To: Brad's Gramma

You watch too much TV. He’s climbing out.


29 posted on 04/21/2013 9:27:37 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( There's Two Choices. Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered.)
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To: TigersEye

Supposedly he shot himself, back of the neck (if my memory’s right...). Now, never having done that myself, I ask this as a n00b to neck shooting oneself....

How the heck do you do THAT and then crawl OUT of the boat and why is there no blood even if you COULD crawl out of the boat?


30 posted on 04/21/2013 9:29:11 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: B4Ranch

I watch NO TV....that’s the truth.

How’d he climb out w/a neck wound?

I know...I know...carefully. :)


31 posted on 04/21/2013 9:29:59 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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32 posted on 04/21/2013 9:30:26 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: matt1234

Amen. The Daily Mail, BBC and even a few Canadian newspapers have been invulnerable in providing the most concise and up to date information.


33 posted on 04/21/2013 9:32:28 PM PDT by matt04
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To: Zhang Fei

But by definition, aRE the homeowners guns and ammo going to be weapons of mass destructuin also??????


34 posted on 04/21/2013 9:36:31 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: Brad's Gramma

That’s a good question. I’m afraid I thought your first post was facetious so my reply to it was also facetious. It is strange that he looks so spry in that pic when he is supposed to have shot himself through the jaw and neck. Plus he was already wounded nearly 20 hours earlier. I guess it’s possible to get up and move after that. Having several flashbang grenades tossed on your butt might be very motivating.


35 posted on 04/21/2013 9:36:45 PM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: TigersEye
Having several flashbang grenades tossed on your butt might be very motivating.

Oh yes, I imagine I'd be flying like a birdie to get out of that boat....!

Remember the pic of the bullet holes in the boat? It's a wonder he wasn't killed.

THAT was/IS part of my skepticism.

36 posted on 04/21/2013 9:39:36 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Brad's Gramma

My best guess as to why he was not hit by the gunfire hitting the boat is that he was behind the engine compartment and the engine blocked the shots.


37 posted on 04/21/2013 9:41:41 PM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: TigersEye

Well, sweet thing that I am....I hope it was by far THE most terrifying moments of his life.


38 posted on 04/21/2013 9:43:16 PM PDT by Bradís Gramma (Psalm 83)
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To: Zhang Fei
I'm happy to prosecute this guy every which way, but calling a homemade bomb a weapon of mass destruction is an indication of how this administration is willing to twist the meanings of words to get its way. By that definition, the Taliban are using WMD's against us in Afghanistan.

I read the statute long ago, and that is indeed what it says. Any kind of explosive device is considered a "weapon of mass destruction" under federal law. It predates the Obama administration. It might even go back to the Clinton administration.

I didn't track the history of the amendments to the law, but it looked like sloppy drafting. It was through several indirect references that combined both explosive devices and true WMDs (like nuclear, biological, and chemical weapons) into the same classification.

39 posted on 04/21/2013 9:45:49 PM PDT by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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To: Brad's Gramma

No hopes for the future? lol


40 posted on 04/21/2013 9:46:03 PM PDT by TigersEye (If babies had guns they wouldn't be aborted)
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To: Brad's Gramma

I’ll guess that he shot himself with a .380 or a 9mm. Neither one are known as being particularly efficient. yes, you’ll bleed out eventually but not as quick as with a .45 wound.

If the gun was angled he could shoot through his neck without hitting his spine. Most of the large veins and arteries are in the front half of the head.


41 posted on 04/21/2013 9:49:12 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( There's Two Choices. Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered.)
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To: Brad's Gramma

He had already been in the boat at that point. The cover was ripped off when he was laying down inside the boat.


42 posted on 04/21/2013 10:00:01 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Brad's Gramma
I want to know who took this pic of him climbing, I assume, INTO the boat?

I don't think that is him climbing into the boat.

43 posted on 04/21/2013 10:00:48 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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44 posted on 04/21/2013 10:01:43 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: matt04

I agree with you on that.


45 posted on 04/21/2013 10:04:03 PM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Brad's Gramma

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2312486/Dzhokhar-Tsarnaev-Boston-bombing-suspect-gun-mouth-fired-botched-suicide-attempt.html

“Many reports say he climbed out of the boat on his own power. The Los Angeles Times reports that Tsarnaev was swearing profusely in the ambulance. “

If he could swear in the ambulance why can’t he talk now?


46 posted on 04/21/2013 10:07:47 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( There's Two Choices. Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered.)
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To: B4Ranch

Intubated perhaps?


47 posted on 04/21/2013 10:11:04 PM PDT by berdie
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To: berdie

Perhaps, yes perhaps.


48 posted on 04/21/2013 10:12:34 PM PDT by B4Ranch ( There's Two Choices. Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered.)
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To: GBA
Thanks(!) for making that point and bringing it to everyone's attention. I confess that I'm starting to get numb to the constant misuse and dramatic overuse of the language by progressives of all political strips and I failed to even notice until you pointed it out.

What gets me about this attack is the James Dean-style game of chicken element about it. The Boston Marathon is heavily defended by hundreds of cops. These guys carried out the attack right under their noses. McVeigh parked a vehicle in front of the Federal building like every other visitor. James Holmes attacked a movie theater full of civilians. The Bali bombers hit a nightclub where the toughest resistance might have been the unarmed bouncers. The 9/11 attackers hit planes full of civilians.

Another point is that the Chechen brothers did not go house to house blasting away at civilians. They carjacked a guy and let him live, which allowed the guy to alert the cops. My sense is that while they, as Chechens, had the inborn temperament of stone killers, something held them back in a way that did not occur with other spree killers or Islamist terrorists.

49 posted on 04/21/2013 10:18:28 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Brad's Gramma

Maybe this will help...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2312486/Dzhokhar-Tsarnaev-Boston-bombing-suspect-gun-mouth-fired-botched-suicide-attempt.html


50 posted on 04/21/2013 10:25:42 PM PDT by stlnative
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