Obama DHS Purchases 2,700 Light-Armored Tanks to Go With Their 1.6 Billion Bullet Stockpile

Gateway Pundit ^ | March 3, 2013 | Jim Hoft

[2ndDivisionVet]

This is getting a little creepy.

According to one estimate, since last year the Department of Homeland Security has stockpiled more than 1.6 billion bullets, mainly .40 caliber and 9mm.

DHS also purchased 2,700 Mine Resistant Armor Protected Vehicles (MRAP).

Modern Survival Blog reported:

The Department of Homeland Security (through the U.S. Army Forces Command) recently retrofitted 2,717 of these ‘Mine Resistant Protected’ vehicles for service on the streets of the United States.

Although I’ve seen and read several online blurbs about this vehicle of late, I decided to dig slightly deeper and discover more about the vehicle itself.

The new DHS sanctioned ‘Street Sweeper’ (my own slang due to the gun ports) is built by Navistar Defense (NavistarDefense.com), a division within the Navistar organization...

[2ndDivisionVet]

What is happening here?

[Tzimisce]

I don’t like where this is going.

Are we headed for a violent takeover?

[Secret Agent Man]

phase ii/phase iii of freedom from war, state dept pub 5277,tying in agenda 21 goals at the same time.

[2ndDivisionVet]

What Good Can a Handgun Do Against An Army?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2312894/posts

[JohnnyP]

Go to the link, it says Police/Rescue on the side of the vehicle.

Watch the video, the guy is talking about serving warrants and entering houses.

[Bigh4u2]

" it says Police/Rescue on the side of the vehicle." Not this one..

[cva66snipe]

The George W Bush Legacy coming home too roost. Barry says thank you W I couldn’t have done it without ya.

[21twelve]

Mine “resistant”. Interesting photo with the four spare tires.

[OwenKellogg]

NJCT ping.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

Still stockpiling the 1.6 billion bullets, due to the contracts being five years in length.

So, why does DHS need these light tanks? And do they even have the staff for all of this equipment and ammunition?

[2ndDivisionVet]

The National Guard, I suspect.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

Oh, and thanks, Obama voters, for four more years of this scary crap.

[Fresh Wind]

King Barry would be doing this regardless of whether DHS was in place or not. Bush just made the paperwork a little easier for him.

[bergmeid]

I know the answer!! Border Patrol! /s

[maddog55]

These things are good in a city / urban environment where if the shxt hits the fan is the last place I’d ever be anyway and they are good on a well kept hard packed smooth surface.

At 19 - 23 tons, small dirt roads with ruts, small wooden bridges or any muddy dirt road and they’re useless. Basically anywhere your standard 4-wheel drive can go these can’t.. which is where I’ll be.

[Yosemitest]

When it's more obvious that they lost the public's trust, they're going to need those weapon system to use against us, when they refuse to leave.

The United States Citizens KNOW that they're going to have to fight TYRANTS in their own government.
You cannot protect life, without the ability to take life.

While you are WAITING for the police to respond, someone could be losing their life.
All people of a responsible age should be armed.

As EternalVigilance reminded us:

The Second Amendment IS Pro-Life.

"Among the natural rights of the Colonists are these:
First, a right to life;
Secondly, to liberty;
Thirdly, to property;
together with the right to support and defend them in the best manner they can.
These are evident branches of, rather than deductions from, the duty of self-preservation,
commonly called the first law of nature...
In short, it is the greatest absurdity to suppose it in the power of one, or any number of men, at the entering into society,
to renounce their essential natural rights, or the means of preserving those rights;
when the grand end of civil government, from the very nature of its institution, is for the support, protection, and defence of those very rights;
the principal of which, as is before observed, are Life, Liberty, and Property.
If men, through fear, fraud, or mistake, should in terms renounce or give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the grand end of society would absolutely vacate such renunciation.
The right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty,
it is not in the power of man to alienate this gift
and voluntarily become a slave."




-- Samuel Adams, The Rights of the Colonists

Click here to read the 12 page pamphlet.

Let us NEVER FORGET THAT !

Let's subjugate them to OUR end game, DUST!
"COMPROMISE" is a DIRTY word!
People who study the Bible know that COMPROMISE almost always leads to destruction.


It's time to mock the "Gun Control" Zombies!
"Gun Control" is a firm grip, steady breathing, accurate aim (developed by lots of practice), and a slow trigger pull.


The Swiss have got it CORRECT !
We need to learn from the Swiss and implement their "gun control measures" here in the United States right now, today!
These laws are the ones we should shove into the "2nd Amendment Haters" faces.

" Today, military service for Swiss males is universal. At about age 20, every Swiss male goes through 118 consecutive days of recruit training in the Rekrutenschule. ...

Even before required training begins, young men and women may take optional courses with the Swiss army's M57 assault rifle.
They keep that gun at home for three months and receive six half-day training sessions.

From age 21 to 32, a Swiss man serves as a "frontline" troop in the Auszug, and devotes three weeks a year (in eight of the 12 years) to continued training.
From age 33 to 42, he serves in the Landwehr (like America's National Guard); every few years, he reports for two-week training periods.
Finally, from ages 43, to 50, he serves in the Landsturm; in this period, he only spends 13 days total in "home guard courses."

Over a soldier's career he also spends scattered days on mandatory equipment inspections and required target practice.
Thus, in a 30-year mandatory military career, a Swiss man only spends about one year in direct military service.
Following discharge from the regular army, men serve on reserve status until age 50 (55 for officers).

By the Federal Constitution of 1874, military servicemen are given their first equipment, clothing and arms.
After the first training period, conscripts must keep gun, ammunition and equipment an ihrem Wohnort ("in their homes") until the end of their term of service.

Today, enlisted men are issued M57 AUTOMATIC assault rifles and officers are given pistol.
Each reservist is issued 24 rounds of ammunition in sealed packs for emergency use.
(Contrary to Handgun Control's claim that "all ammunition must be accounted for," the emergency ammunition is the only ammo that requires accounting.)

After discharge from service, the man is given a bolt rifle free from registration or obligation.
Starting in the 1994, the government will GIVE ex-reservists assault rifles. Officers carry pistols rather than rifles and are given their pistols the end of their service.

When the government adopts a new infantry rifle, it sells the old ones to the public.

Reservists are encouraged to buy MILITARY ammunition
(7.5 and 5.6mm-5.56 mm in other countries-for rifles and 9 and 7.65 mm Luger for pistols)
which is sold AT COST by the government, for target practice .
Non-military ammunition for long-gun hunting and .22 Long Rifle (LR) ammo are not subsidised, but are subiect to NO sales controls.
Non-military non-hunting ammunition more powerful than .22 LR (such as .38 Spl.) is registered at the time of sale.

Swiss military ammo must be registered IF bought at a private store, BUT NEED NOT BE REGISTERED IF bought at a range.
The nation's 3,000 shooting ranges sell the overwhelming majority of ammunition.
Technically, ammunition bought at the range must be used at the range, but the rule is barely known and almost never obeyed.

The army SELLS a variety of machine guns, submachine guns, anti-tank weapons, anti-aircraft guns, howitzers and cannons.
Purchasers of these weapons require an EASILY OBTAINED cantonal license, and the weapons are registered.
In a nation of six million people, there are at least two million guns, including 600,000 FULLY AUTOMATIC assault rifles, half a million pistols, and numerous machine guns.
Virtually every home has a gun.

Besides SUBSIDIZED military surplus, the Swiss can buy other firearms easily too.
While long guns require NO special purchase procedures, handguns are sold only to those with a Waffenerwerbsschien (purchase certificate) issued by a cantonal authority.
A certificate is issued to every applicant over 18 who is not a criminal or mentally infirm.

There are NO restrictions on the carrying of long guns.
About half the cantons have strict permit procedures for carrying handguns, and the other half have NO rules at all.
There is NO discernible difference in the crime rate between the cantons as a result of the different policies.

Thanks to a lawsuit brought by the Swiss gun lobby, semi-automatic rifles require NO PURCHASE PERMIT and are NOT registered by the government.
Thus, the ONLY long guns registered by the government are FULL AUTOMATICS."

The Swiss have got it CORRECT !
Let's adopt THEIR LAWS !

Remember:

The beauty of the Second Amendment is
that it will not be needed
until they TRY to take it.

Read Second Amendment: It’s Not About Hunting, IT'S ABOUT TYRANNY .

[2ndDivisionVet]

These were designed, as I understand it, to ward off mines and IEDs put together by third world irregulars. Do Mr. Obama and his minions not understand that the force arrayed against them in a hypothetical revolution/rebellion/civil war/insurgency within our borders will have a technological base at least 5-10 times better than any country we've ever fought in? And that a goodly portion of the military will take their Bradley IFVs, M-2 .50 cal. MGs, F-16s, Abrahms MBTs, Cobra helicopters, TOWs and artillery with them when they leave?

[Truth29]

The local gun show is a little short of RPGs. The militarization of domestic forces, including police, has gone way too far already and seems to be accelerating. An oppressive government will ultimately use these weapons against any citizenry that finally awakens against the threat.

[knarf]

American fabric weaving 101

[Future Snake Eater]

These were designed, as I understand it, to ward off mines and IEDs put together by third world irregulars.

That's correct. MRAPs aren't difficult to destroy, but they do an outstanding job of protecting the occupants inside.

[2ndDivisionVet]

What color is the boathouse at Hertfordshire? Bet they don’t know. My Boy Scout troop in the early 70’s was quite a bit meaner looking than that crew.

[Northern Yankee]

Hopefully they'll transform them into electric little things. That would be about right for this administration.

They'll be DOA if they bring them out.

[2ndDivisionVet]

Did the French Resistance, Warsaw Jews, drug cartels or the Viet Minh need rocket-propelled grenades or bazookas to take out tanks and armored cars?

[arthurus]

For later.

[Kozak]

They have to get out at some point ....

[Makana]

“Interesting photo with the four spare tires.”

Look at the wheel hubs. It would take an air wrench and a weekend to change them out.

[ez]

I hear ammonia is good at making the vehicles uninhabitable.

[jsanders2001]

Those tanks will come in very handy once DHS personnel turn on Obama and use them against him or they are commandeered out of their hands...

Your tax dollars at work against you. Insane when you think about it.

[kevslisababy]

my son drove one of these in Afghanistan and they get stuck in the mud real easy. and it takes aniother two of them to pull it out.

they also arent that great for “mine” protection.

[Dixie Yooper]

In the right hands, 2,700 of these sturdy SUV’s could make a border enforcement much easier...in the right hands.

[2ndDivisionVet]

Ike died a long time ago.

[muir_redwoods]

I wonder how well those MRAPs work when covered with a couple hundred gallons of gasoline.

[Kozak]

Paint ball all the windows.....

[Progov]

Who the hell is allowing payment for that stuff?. The U.S. couldn’t buy body arm for our soldiers but can buy this stull for his upcoming civil war. Call your congress dofusses to stop the payment for this stuff. I have no doubt Odumbo is getting ready for his planned civial war that will take place right HERE when he creates his marshall Law event and names himself a King of the U.S.

Enough is enough! (I’m getting piss#d)

[redgolum]

They are getting ready to put down an insurrection.

And they don’t know if it will come from the right or left (they really don’t).

[dirtboy]

The Department of Homeland Security (through the U.S. Army Forces Command) recently retrofitted 2,717 of these ‘Mine Resistant Protected’ vehicles for service on the streets of the United States.

Retrofitted. Basically, in reading the comments at the various websites, some posters are saying these are leftover vehicles from Iraq and Afghanistan and are being upgraded so they don't rot.

These are NOT new purchases as implied by the headline. Which calls into question some of the other claims. I would take this reporting with a grain of salt. Let's get some more facts before leaping to conclusions.

[Psalm 73]

"They have to get out at some point ...."

They'll need fuel and LOTS of maintenance at the unit level, too.

[BuffaloJack]

Seems extravagant during the Sequester.

[Ron H.]

creeping along a little faster each day towards 1984 .....

[luvbach1]

Are we headed for a violent takeover?

Or a violent extension of El Presidente 0bumble's regime in 2016.

[Jim Noble]

Mine “resistant”

How do they do with Molotov cocktails?

[elcid1970]

Those wheels on MRAPs are split rims with run-flat inserts like the original HUMMV. They’re difficult to change out even in a well equipped maintenance shop. The extra four tires indicate that size isn’t in the supply system or the vehicle will be operating well outside the maintenance support network. Come to think of it, Homeland Security will have to rely on Army Reserve or National Guard maintenance sites if MRAPs are to be used for domestic civil suppresion & control.

Here in the continental U.S. the MRAP would operate as an armored personnel carrier. The simple fact that it is not a tracked vehicle limits its off-road capability, so its owners are counting on its menacing appearance to cow the populace. However, a military eye will sense its weaknesses rather than its strengths, and there are plenty of us veterans who as yet possess that tactical instinct.

If I were to see Homeland Security armored vehicles in my town, I would take it as a sign of worry, not arrogance, on the part of government authorities. As a former tanker, I learned long ago to evaluate any military vehicle for its target potential.

[Yo-Yo]

LAPD's police chief Daryl Gates bought some for his department back in the 1970s.

[sten]

• 2.2 billion rounds of ammo
• demands for confiscation of citizen owned guns and rifles
• vets being warned via the VA of arrest if they possess a weapon
• numerous high caliber personnel have met 'untimely ends' within the last year
• vets being dubbed 'dangerous' and a 'terrorist risk' and not allowed to fly/passport revoke

and now they've ordered up 2700+ light armored tanks??

wtf!

you should be on the horn to your congress-critter immediately (what little good it'll do... but for now, it's the only recourse we have)

[Venturer]

Those thing are not going over seas Jack.
They aren’t going to be used on Illegal immigrants.
They are expensive when times are hard.

There are two thing that might happen here. They will sit around and rust or thay will be used against citizens of these United States.

[MeneMeneTekelUpharsin]

Bump for reference. Almost all of the signs are here.

[When do we get liberated?]

National guard is run by the states. This is the militarization of jackbooted thugs.