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Is It Fair For People On Food Stamps To Buy Prime Rib While Working Families Barely Survive?
TEC ^ | 02/16/2013 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 02/16/2013 6:14:56 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Is It Fair For People On Food Stamps To Buy Prime Rib And Lobster While Working Families Barely Survive?Should we all quit working and jump on board the Obama gravy train? Of course I am being facetious, but when you are barely surviving does there come a point when it just becomes easier to give up and totally rely on the government? Today, the federal government runs nearly 80 different means-tested welfare programs, and many state and local governments have their own welfare programs on top of that. If you become an expert on those programs and you learn how to game the system, can you live more comfortably than someone that lives honestly and works as hard as they can and yet still makes less than 10 dollars an hour? Now, right from the outset of this article, let me make it abundantly clear that I do not believe that most people are abusing the system. As I have written about over and over, the number of Americans living in poverty is rapidly increasing because there are not enough jobs. There are not enough jobs because we are shipping millions of them out of the country to the other side of the globe, and we are also losing millions of jobs to technology. There have always been those that need our help, and because of the foolish decisions that we have made as a nation, the ranks of the poor will continue to expand. But it is also true that there are some people out there that are very brazenly abusing the system. For example, is it really fair for people on food stamps to buy prime rib and lobster while many working families barely survive? People like that are taking advantage of their fellow Americans, and they are making it harder for the people that really need the help to be able to get it.

Unfortunately, we are rapidly becoming an "entitlement society". Close to half the country lives in a home that receives some sort of monetary benefits from the federal government each month at this point.

In particular, the food stamp program has experienced explosive growth in recent years. Since Obama has been president, the number of Americans on food stamps has grown by more than 49 percent, and more than 11,000 people a day have enrolled in the food stamp program since Obama entered the White House.

And if you can believe it, the number of Americans on food stamps now exceeds the entire population of Spain.

Will we all eventually be on food stamps?

Actually, the truth is that there are millions upon millions of hard working American families that are desperately trying to make it on their own and that don't want to become financial dependents of the federal government. Unfortunately, it can be a little disheartening when you are barely making it from month to month and yet you see others using government benefit cards to buy luxury items.

The other day my wife came across a discussion on Facebook that really caught her attention. I thought that I would share with you all the post that got that discussion going. As far as I can determine, this woman shared what she believed she actually saw at her local grocery store, but I have no way of determining if this story is true or not. But I have seen quite a few similar stories of food stamp abuse in the past. Either way, I think the following story will be good to help spark a conversation about whether our current system is broken or not. All of the names have been removed so as to protect the identity of the woman that originally posted this on Facebook...

Okay...so, I'm going to go on a rant for a minute...just to get it off my chest...

**** & I went to the grocery store to pick up a few things because we were getting low...sooo, we pick up our 40% off chicken and buy one get two free items and proceed to checkout.

There is a woman ahead of us with a child about 4 years old. The woman, I couldn't help but notice....had beautiful fingernails, clearly professionally done...and I also noticed her brand new IPHONE...which she was talking on, and I think that is rude while you are being checked out. Her little girl was commenting on the TWO live lobsters in a bag on the checkout, asked if it was going to hurt when they get cooked, her mom brushed her off...at that time I took a look at what else she had on the counter...A HUGE roast, sirloin tips, shrimp, beef ribs and pork ribs...only the prime cuts... I thought to myself....mmmmmm someone is having a yummy dinner and must have a great job as I could not afford these things (not that I'd get my nails done anyway)....

So...the cashier gives her a total and what does she pull out of her wallet but a BENEFIT card!!!!!!! I had all I could do to contain myself...

Sometimes people need help, and I'm okay with that, and those who need it should get it....BUT...if you can afford the latest IPHONE and fancy nails then why in the world are the taxpayers paying for your LOBSTER?!!!! If she really needed help and food, she should have been buying the "sale" items...40% off chicken, buy one get one free cheese ravioli...you know, like the rest of us working class have to buy!

It especially makes me mad because there ARE PEOPLE WHO NEED HELP and can't get it...My son and his girlfriend and brand new baby aren't eligible for an ounce of help...they tried, she works days and he works nights so that they don't have to pay for day-care, they use inexpensive diapers and try to save money anyway they can, they struggle to make ends meet and to pay for their straight talk phones and to boot are paying off college loans...but they supposedly make too much...c'mon, really, he works at McDonalds and she works in a nursing home...lets be real here...those are the type that SHOULD get help...UGHHHH Our system is broken and something needs to be done about it!!!

There, that's my rant...kudo's to you if you managed to read the whole thing as I know it was an awful long rant....Gotta go work now, ;) Thanks for listening.

In response to her story, dozens of people posted comments. Quite a few people said that they had seen similar things where they lived.

And the truth is that food stamps are accepted just about wherever you look these days. Just check out this shocking article: "Obama’s food-stamp nation: ‘We accept EBT’ signs are everywhere".

So is this kind of thing fair?

If not, what can be done about it?

What everybody can agree upon is that the number of food stamp recipients is absolutely exploding. The following is from a recent CNS news article...

When Obama entered office in January 2009 there were 31,939,110 Americans receiving food stamps. As of November 2012—the most recent data available—there were 47,692,896 Americans enrolled, an increase of 49.3 percent.

But this didn't just start under Obama. Back in the year 2000, there were just 17 million Americans on food stamps.

30 million more have been added to the program since then.

And of course food stamps is not the only federal welfare program that is being abused.

According to the Wall Street Journal, there has been a tremendous amount of abuse in the free cell phone program as well.

The U.S. government spent about $2.2 billion last year to provide phones to low-income Americans, but a Wall Street Journal review of the program shows that a large number of those who received the phones haven't proved they are eligible to receive them.

The Lifeline program—begun in 1984 to ensure that poor people aren't cut off from jobs, families and emergency services—is funded by charges that appear on the monthly bills of every landline and wireless-phone customer. Payouts under the program have shot up from $819 million in 2008, as more wireless carriers have persuaded regulators to let them offer the service.

A lot of people refer to those free cell phones as "Obamaphones", but the truth is that the program has been going on for a long time. It just has accelerated greatly under Obama.

So what is the solution to all of this?

Well, what we really need are a lot more jobs, but in the State of the Union address last night Obama simply rehashed a lot of the same tired proposals that he and our former presidents have been promoting for years.

If we continue to do the same things that we have been doing, we are going to continue to get the same results.

There is a reason why the percentage of the civilian labor force in the United States that is employed has been steadily declining every single year since 2006. We keep pursuing foolish policies, and those policies are steadily destroying our economy.

Sadly, many of our politicians appear to be engaged in some form of "doublethink". The things that they tell us will solve our problems are actually the things that are making our problems even worse.

For example, Barack Obama says that we need even more "free trade agreements" and that we need to integrate our economy into the emerging one world economic system even more deeply.

But as I have shown in article after article, the "free trade" agenda of the global elite has resulted in the loss of tens of thousands of U.S. businesses and millions of good paying U.S. jobs.

For much more on this, please see the following article: "55 Reasons Why You Should Buy Products That Are Made In America".

And of course Obama once promised that he would never "rest" until he had fixed our employment problems, but that hasn't exactly been the truth either. The following is from a recent article by Dan Gainor...

Back in 2009, the president promised never to "rest" until the job situation was fixed. Nearly four years later, he's done a lot of resting.

According to The Weekly Standard, Pres. Obama has had 83 vacation days overall and Factcheck.org says he took 26 of those in 2009. That means the president has taken at least 57 vacation days since his vow not to "rest."

But hey, he needs his rest. Life is rough. U.S. taxpayers only spend about a billion dollars a year on the Obamas. How is he supposed to scrape by on such limited resources?

Meanwhile, Americans are still incredibly pessimistic about the economy. The following is what one recent survey found...

And as you can see from the charts in this article, U.S. businesses remain very pessimistic about the future of the economy as well.

Unfortunately, those that are pessimistic about the economy have very good reasons to be so.

And as bad as things are right now, they are going to be getting much, much worse.

That means that millions more Americans are going to be wanting to sign up for food stamps and other welfare programs.

But what will happen someday when the safety net breaks and all of those welfare programs start getting cut back dramatically?

What kind of riots will we see in major U.S. cities when the international community insists that the U.S. implement its own version of "austerity" in response to a massive debt crisis?

Will we eventually end up just like Greece and Spain or even worse?



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KEYWORDS: 47percent; foodstamps; parasites; welfare
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To: Rebelbase

I saw and EBT user buying 4lbs of $8.99/lb shrimp at the grocery tonight. Peeves the hell out me.


Last year I stopped by Wal Mart to pick up some stuff on the way home from work. It was Sunday at just before midnight and I think it was the day the EBT cards reset at midnight.

There was a non english speaking hispanic family there with a woman and man in their 40’s, a girl in her late teens or early 20’s and about three young children.

The two adults and the older girl each had a register of their own completely filled up with groceries, snack food, soft drinks, clothing, toys and arts and crafts supplies and were hanging around waiting.

Just after midnight , the man reaches into his front shirt pocket and pulls out about 6 of our states distinctly shaped EBT cards, sorts through and carefully looks at each one of them. After a moment of careful deliberation, the man then proceeds to select three of the EBT cards out the stack.

He hands one to the woman, one to the younger girl and takes one for himself and all three proceeds to check out their respective piles of goods on each of their registers and loaded the bagged goods into about 5 maxed shopping carts and the whole group heads for the parking lot.

It only took me a minute to check out my gallon of milk and dozen eggs so I followed directly behind them.

They are parked in a parking space just opposite to the parking space I was parked in so I got a very good look at their vehicle.

They were driving an optioned out late 1-2 year old top of the line, optioned out red Chevy Suburban SUV with expensive alloy rims and high end aftermarket off road type tires, an aftermarket performance exhaust system and and a really nice biscuit colored leather interior.

The license plate on the SUV showed that it was from Sonora, Mexico.

In our state, each family regardless of the number of people and the number of programs the are one, are issued only ONE EBT card per family.

These people had at least 6 and actually used 3 of them to purchase what I would estimate to be well over $1000 and perhaps closer to 2,000 dollars worth of items between the three of them.

The problem that we have is that it is really easy to create a false identity through the illegal alien network and then go on welfare multiple times under multiple fake identities.

Our social service workers, as a matter of policy, provide EBT cards to people who are illegal and have forged ID documents.

The problem is there is no way to track how many times these people have signed up under multiple assumed identities.

Our own citizens take advantage of the same ready access to fake IDs to get benefits under multiple fake Ids as well.

It is killing the state of California’s welfare system.


81 posted on 02/16/2013 8:42:30 PM PST by rdcbn
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To: rdcbn

Many illegals have multiple identities and there was a thread yesterday - I think- about how its racist (or something) to ban them from committing identity fraud or something.


82 posted on 02/16/2013 8:45:59 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SeekAndFind
TRANSFORMING AMERICA one day at a time. It certainly seems this is what the majority of voters in America wanted.


“The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.”
Thomas Jefferson quotes (American 3rd US President (1801-09). Author of the Declaration of Independence. 1762-1826)
83 posted on 02/16/2013 8:53:45 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: F15Eagle

The Boston Children’s Museum just recently announced a $2.00 entrance fee for those with EBT (food stamp) cards.

For the “fools” who don’t have these cards it is $14.00.

When I read this last week I was enraged. My kids and their spouses work very hard to support their families and they just got kicked in the face.

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84 posted on 02/16/2013 8:58:54 PM PST by Mears
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To: Marcella

Very well said. While I know there is abuse in the food stamp program,no one on here knows one thing about the people on assistance - yet,they spew their hatred of those using the card. The comments I read on here are so judgmental that it makes me angry. You should never judge anyone unless you have walked a mile in their shoes. Maybe some of these well-dressed, people driving nice cars lost their jobs due to the wonderful/s obama economy and these vehicles are paid off before the family went on food stamps.

And for people to make a list of what others should and shouldn’t eat makes me think they’d be right at home with nanny bloomburg in NYC. This type of judgmental and superior attitude is right up his alley - after all, he banned salt, transfats, soda over 16 oz, and is now working on getting rid of styrofoam. Seems he knows what’s best for everyone, just as some on here do.


85 posted on 02/16/2013 9:06:10 PM PST by Catsrus
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To: GeronL

“If it were up to me, we would have ONE assistance program..”

Why not MRE’s, C-Rats or K-Rats for people my age. Let them all come to a central point and claim their share.

Try trading THOSE for drugs or alcohol!


86 posted on 02/16/2013 9:16:37 PM PST by Rembrandt (Part of the 51% who pay Federal taxes)
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To: Rembrandt

lol


87 posted on 02/16/2013 9:17:31 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: SeekAndFind

to me it has nothing to do with “fair”.

it is just not right.’no way you look at it.


88 posted on 02/16/2013 9:18:38 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

amen.


89 posted on 02/16/2013 9:19:43 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: FoxPro

I just hope for taxpayers sake that you purchase store brand alcohol and tobacco.


90 posted on 02/16/2013 9:23:27 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Now, right from the outset of this article, let me make it abundantly clear that I do not believe that most people are abusing the system. As I have written about over and over, the number of Americans living in poverty is rapidly increasing because there are not enough jobs.

This mealy-mouthed politically correct excuse for stating unpleasant facts made reading the remainder an exercise increasing blood presure and little else.

There are no jobs because a treasonous bastard ran for president, and businesses large and small were not willing to risk what could clearly happen (and in fact has happened) if he was succesful.

Does this author actually believe that 49% of american residents of working age are looking for work? Yes, most ARE abusing the system.

Substantially more than half of those abusing the "welfare" system are doing so fraudulently, or simply because they can do so successfully and it takes a lot less effort.
Politically, it is also a permanent benefit to our elected criminal class.

91 posted on 02/16/2013 9:24:05 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Unin label, then buy something else.)
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To: freekitty

is that a euphemism for “government quota job”?


92 posted on 02/16/2013 9:25:58 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: meyer

those 90% also believe they deserve their scammed benefits.


93 posted on 02/16/2013 9:27:33 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: steve86

Just curious - why is there a cash side? (Why are we giving people cash?)


94 posted on 02/16/2013 9:32:31 PM PST by Gil4 (Progressives - Trying to repeal the Law of Supply and Demand since 1848)
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To: Rembrandt

Why not MRE’s, C-Rats or K-Rats

Too damned expensive. (Almost as much as the lobster.)


95 posted on 02/16/2013 9:35:47 PM PST by Gil4 (Progressives - Trying to repeal the Law of Supply and Demand since 1848)
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To: radiogirl
That was really a creative bunch of BS you laid on us NOOB.
We are tolerant here, but not stupid.

Undocumented or unsubstantiated assertions are not worth rat feces.

Perhaps you should go back to DU and get additional training.

96 posted on 02/16/2013 9:42:29 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Unin label, then buy something else.)
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To: Catsrus
I really don't care what you eat, so long as you're not using and abusing my tax dollars to do it.

You haven't walked a mile in my shoes either, moron.

97 posted on 02/16/2013 9:51:28 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Unin label, then buy something else.)
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To: Catsrus

“Seems he knows what’s best for everyone, just as some on here do.”

No, working people have a right to bitch about what luxuries they are providing for deadbeats. I can’t imagine what you are doing here other than being a troll


98 posted on 02/16/2013 9:59:23 PM PST by Figment
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To: Catsrus
“Very well said.”

Thanks for the support. If some on here had to have food stamps, I don't think they would like it if the card could only be used for rice and beans as some have said. They would be yelling, “Nanny state says I can only have rice and beans and I lost my job and this money is all I have to eat on and I can decide which food is better for my family.” That is exactly what I would think if I had to have that card.

Those cards aren't just going to deadbeats and liberals. So many good people have lost jobs and can't find one. This is a terrible situation and I can't judge people or what they buy. I'd rather pray for those in real trouble.

99 posted on 02/16/2013 10:00:17 PM PST by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Rembrandt

Makes too much sense


100 posted on 02/16/2013 10:01:12 PM PST by Figment
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