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Posted on 01/28/2013 8:10:56 PM PST by Melas
While the title says it all, I thought a goodbye was in order.
While I've been a FReeper for well over a decade, I must declare that it is time to part ways. While I have the greatest respect for a great many of you, the days where I can in good conscience remain silent about the issues that set me apart from the rest of FReeperdom have past. For clarity, or perhaps catharsis, I'm not entirely certain which, I'll lay them out on the table an call the ZOT™ down upon myself.
The racism: I just can't handle it anymore. FR has become increasingly racist since President Obama took office, and enforcement has dropped. Now, not a single crime can be reported with an "amish" comment, and I've yet to see a post express embarrassment or shame when lo and behold sometimes the perpetrators turned out to be lily white.
Homosexuality: FR is on the wrong side of history on this one, and I'll just leave it at that.
Mostly though, it's the hate. More and more posts reference violent solutions to political disagreements. Some subtly couched, others make no pretense. I wouldn't be surprised at all if I read in the morning paper that a FReeper murdered a federal bureaucrat or a federal judge.
I've learned so much, from so many of you, and for that I'm grateful. I genuinely and truly wish all of you well, and sincerely hope you all live out the rest of your lives in happiness.
Melas
Anonymous federal bureaucrats at the EPA just made a decision in my area that WILL incur fatalities - fatalities that are 100% avoidable.
I kind of consider that "murder", but of course the US Department of Media would NEVER point that out.
I just can’t take it anymore!!! I’m going to have milk and cookies and then go to bed. Try it, you’ll feel better in the morning.
I see some of your fellow travelers have posted here tonight. They should probably go with you to DU.
Sounds like you’ll be happier back at Demorat Underground.
They like victimhood, reparations, and homos there.
Good riddance, you surrender monkey.
LOL.
I like your tagline!
As a person of color myself, I can’t tell you how offensive it is to me to have homosexual rights equated with civil rights.
There is no comparison, and I am shocked that other non-whites don’t speak out more against this comparison.
Not in this lifetime HokieMom. ;o)
I would have prefered it stayed with the muslims.
Seems another term could have been used for the “dawgs”.
But, times change.
Thanks for note.
I could not have said it better.
I could spend two hours typing how President Obama at least appears to be quite the racist and a jerk himself and posting about it isn't being racist.
I could spend two hours typing how President Obama at least appears to be quite the racist and a jerk himself and posting about it isn't being racist.
How is it going down your way?
So conservative FReepers are the Taliban?
I don't think you know what the word "Taliban" really means.
That or I'll just disappear off FR because Holder's minions have finally figured out who I am in real life and they've arranged a little accident. Practice opsec everyone.
I'm in the same boat.
Well said...thank you.
My own opus will be about and caused by those damned duplicate posts!
((((Hugs)))) Love these sharp minds.In love again.
OK Here’s a song.
One the Kids like .
Mumford & Sons - I Will Wait
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Melas,
I, too, worry that some of the comments that are bantered about on FR could come back to haunt me, just for being a member. I cringe at some comments, and yes, there is certainly some racist bullsh*t thrown around. There are also comments that invite federal government scrutiny in their not-so veiled threats. These are not “close ones”. They step over the line. When I read these things, I try to keep in mind that it is a definite minority. The folks who do this are just pissed angry, and feel powerless over a government that doesn’t even pretend to represent them anymore. It’s not about being white, rich, or old either, IMHO, it’s about a set of values that are seemingly mocked in nearly every media outlet there is. And, when it emerges on FR, it comes at us with the vitriol of a betrayed citizen. It’s not pretty, but it’s also not what you portray it to be. I think the reality is that these folks would be the last people to take a shot at a judge. More likely, they would throw themselves in front of a judge to protect them from that kind of injustice. Don’t let the anger fool you. They just wish the better parts of America could be preserved. They’ve seen the value in some of the more traditional approaches and they’re perplexed as to why common sense is semmingly dying, and traditions are being rejected outright by a nation of people who don’t value anything anymore. Yes, I’m with you on some of your thoughts (not all), but your point of view is exactly why you should stay. Make a conservative argument against these types of things that dissapoint you so much! Point out the idiocy in racist comments by reminding them of all those soldiers and saliors who died in our uniform, for our freedoms, and the bullets and bombs weren’t racist at all. If you think homosexuality can coexist with conservatism, explain how. If you think people are taking it too far, say so. But keep bringing your opinion to the table. Despite the rhetoric, at times, this is the best place there is to make your case. At times, I’ve been a bit unerved by some of the comments here. Waaah!! But hey! F’em. Give it right back. I think you should stay.
I don't think you know what the word "Taliban" really means.
Very well said and thanks for adding a much-needed note of exceptionally clear thinking and sanity on this matter.
One of two possibilities is true:
1) You are a malicious troll (I think unlikely)
2) You have made the relatively common mistake that many people lacking self awareness make: Mistaking a change that has occurred within you for a change that has occurred externally (in this case at FR).
Because I can assure that FR hasn’t changed. I have been coming here since at least 96 and there have always been some over the top comments made here. I don’t always agree but I usually get a kick out of reading them.
Get an effing grip, buddy.
Well, I guess I see it working because the press mentality of sticking their heads in the sand, is the same in both types of stories. I think that’s why - because people saw the obvious connection in the way these two events were being reported.
I really remember I took note that the press started to not mention anything racial or ethnic if they can avoid it. But generally if they report a name, if it’s obvious, it’s obvious without them having to say anything.
But seriously, man. No, really. Just once. I’m getting the impression myself that most contributors to this forum are for... are you ready for it? ... are for... social injustice!
I’m off my meds.............
;<)
fair enough.
Alan West may be one of the most admired politicans at this site. I would have voted for him if he ran. On the other hand thuggery, left leaning, Obama phone holding, entitlement loving misfits deserve the contempt they're given. You have taken the bait that conservatives are racist. No... we have hatred of those whose lives are to live off the left hind teat of the government, with no contribution to society. If that consitutes being a racist, then so be it.
As far as tolerance toward gays, I think almost all religions view the activity as a sin. That is all I will say about that.
Finally, your opus kind of gives me the impression that you weren't that strong a conservative in the first place. I hate to see any of our brethern leave but apparently you have made your choice.
You left out people with Latino surnames. I was in the service with many a person with Latino surnames. Many of them could not speak Spanish. However here at FR anyone with a Latino surname is considered most likely an illegal gang banger.
Ok you just gave them a hint.:)
Well said. I agree.
I love it when you are serious.
That pic is SO funny!
The 130+ responses that follow your swan song remind me of why this forum is an extension of my living room.
What’s so scary? No matter, here’s a clue: whenever I’m serious I say: “No, but seriously...”
Good ridance troll.
You do realize you are reading reactions to overbearing political correctness and propaganda, right?
Then mash that 'abuse' button and let the mods know. They can't be everywhere.
"NO racism or violence in posts." is the rule, as I understand it.
/johnny
How can we go on??
I, being cowardly and soft, tend to agree on the violence tall. Although really it’s meaningless internet chest thumping. That goes for most of the grandstanding, childishness, outright illiteracy, etc. But what can you do in the dirt of this, only the most recent of Western civilization’s “vast wastelands.” The racism thing I wouldn’t single out. Racism is not especially bad, not worse than any other gross stereotypes and barbarisms. That goes for all the isms, too.
Anyway, about the violence. I shrug it off as juvenile and speech born of impotent desperation merely. Then I think of the Revolution, the Whiskey Rebellion, and all the other rebellions. What pin pricks motivated our forebears to bloodiness compared to our gushing neck wounds! Leave aside the Civil War. It could win the argument on its own, but we don’t need it. I don’t even want to go down the list. You know it: conscription, foreign wars unrelated to defense or security, income tax, death tax, the Fed, endless bailouts, endless emergency powers, cradle to grave welfare, crushing debt, fiat currency, wage and price controls, the War on Drugs, eminent domain, property forfeiture, internment camps, administrative law, the revenoors, Bonus Army, Kent Stare, Waco, Ruby Ridge, Elian Gonzales, blah, blah, blah.
Why did we declare independence in the first place? Oh yeah, the British, our legitimate government, wanted to tax us to pay for the French and Indian War. Also because they fumbled the political response to protest movements, but mostly because we were sick of being a cog in their mercantilist system. This with the highest standard of living in the world and, like, a one percent :ax burden. And we fought a WAR over it! A real one.
Our government does worse stuff to us every single day than the British did to their colonists across years. Either our forefathers were monstrous, extremist, bloodthirsty diehard zealots who oughtta be condemned instead of celebrated, or we are sheep.
We are sheep.
As far as his ethnicity goes, I will now include the famous line from Seinfeld, “not that there's anything wrong with that”.
Better we go with the Liberal model, using the terms Uncle Tom and House Nigger while throwing OREO Cookies at Black Republicans. FR, it's kind of like the KKK you know. Geez. One other thing, did Melas just insinuate that a FReeper would attempt to Assassinate a Politico? FReepers know that any violence coming from our side, real or imagined, would be used as Propaganda against us. We leave the Violence to the Leftists, who of course never get blamed for anything.
I don't agree at all, the Amish statements were obvious attempts at sarcasm....totally harmless, meaningless, nonsense!
By the way Melas, that will be 5 cents for my last post. Cash only please.
Please tell me if you find TRUTH somewhere else. Really, I do want to know.
Set one less plate for breakfast.
/johnny
Most of the BEST laughs I have in life, come from right here on the FR forums ;^)
And there's also a reminder to not use profanity. DADGUMMIT!
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