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Seattle Homemaker Fined $13,000 For Doing Background Check On Obama
January 28, 2013 | Linda Jordan

Posted on 01/28/2013 11:33:35 AM PST by ethical

On January 10, 2013 the Washington State Supreme Court fined Linda Jordan almost $13,000 because she legally challenged Barack Obama's use of forged identity documents: A fake birth certificate and phony Social Security Number.

Jordan wanted the original records to be produced for comparison. Why did Jordan want to see Obama’s real ID?

• The Maricopa County Sheriff Department has presented credible evidence that the birth certificate Barack Obama posted on the White House website on April 27, 2011 was forged. (Maricopa County Sheriff Department 602.876.1801) • Jordan’s own research confirmed that Hawaii law requires signatures on birth certificates to be in permanent ink. The signature of Obama’s mother, on his purported 1961 birth certificate, is partly ink and partly a computer created signature. This compilation means the signature was forged. • Ohio Private Investigator Susan Daniels has confirmed that the Social Security Number Obama is using was previously issued to someone else. SSN’s are NEVER re-issued.

Obama used this fake ID to prove he was eligible to be President. It got him on the ballot and into the White House. This is fraud in the least, treason at worst.

“I filed the lawsuit because I fear for America’s future. A serious crime has been committed right in front of us and federal agents turned a blind eye to it. There is substantial evidence that Barack Obama is using fraudulent identity documents. The court ignored this evidence and sanctioned me with almost $13,000 in fines for exercising my right to request an evidentiary hearing. They labeled my concerns "frivolous". Surely Americans have the right to confirm if Obama used fake ID to gain access to the White House.” Linda Jordan

http://www.obamaforgeries.com


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1 posted on 01/28/2013 11:33:40 AM PST by ethical
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To: ethical

At last!!!!!!! Someone dared to check him out!

Now, a question for all:

Last Saturday someone forwarded to me a photocopy of BHO’s student ID from Columbia with his photo on it. On the ID it said “foreign student”.

Does anyone know if this a real one or a fake one being passed around on the internet?


2 posted on 01/28/2013 11:38:03 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: ethical

This will be sure to tick off a lot of alleged freepers today....

“NO, discuss anything BUT the birth certificate” the Hussein Head faux conservatives love to shout.


3 posted on 01/28/2013 11:40:18 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Put up an Internet link to Obama’s ‘foreign student’ ID.


4 posted on 01/28/2013 11:43:04 AM PST by Red Steel
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

so Herr Leader wanted to have the advantages of registering as a foreign student and then morph into a citizen when it suited him. that’s why his college records must stay undercover. im shocked I tell you, shocked!


5 posted on 01/28/2013 11:43:49 AM PST by Gasshog (Welcome to the United States of Stupidos!)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Snopes (http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthers/studentid.asp) claims that the digital type of photo ID was not introduced at Columbia until 1996, well after the time that Obama would have been there.

Makes some sense. Bar codes were still rather rare in 1981.


6 posted on 01/28/2013 11:46:39 AM PST by kidd
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To: ethical

This is pure thuggery by the judiciary. They did the same thing to Leo Donofrio. He vowed not to practice law again

(Orly Taitz deserved the sanctions she received for her repeated waste of the court’s time with her incompetence and attention-whore antics.)


7 posted on 01/28/2013 11:49:14 AM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: ethical

This woman has more patriotism and cajones than the entire GOP.


8 posted on 01/28/2013 11:49:54 AM PST by MichaelCorleone (A return to Jesus and prayer in the schools is the only way.)
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To: ethical
Wouldn't this be protected by the 1st amendment right to petition the government for a redress of grievances?

-PJ

9 posted on 01/28/2013 11:54:39 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Red Steel

Unfortunately I am not adept at copying and pasting something from FB over here to FR. Here’s what it looks like best as I can describe it:

Columbia University
IN THE CITY OF NEW YORK

Barry Soetoro
962011054355

AA
81 PHOTO ID HERE

bar code

FOREIGN STUDENT

(print is in purple)


10 posted on 01/28/2013 11:55:51 AM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: MichaelCorleone
Cojones. Cajones means nothing in Spanish or in English.
11 posted on 01/28/2013 12:00:48 PM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE www.fee.org/library/books/economics-in-one-lesson)
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To: kidd

” Bar codes were still rather rare in 1981.”

Not really, I owned a supermarket with register scanners in
1981. All grocery products had bar codes then.


12 posted on 01/28/2013 12:05:57 PM PST by Fireone (Impeach and imprison, NOW! Treason and murder are still crimes.)
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To: kidd

Probably is a fake because in 1981 I believe Barry was Occidental at that time.


13 posted on 01/28/2013 12:06:45 PM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: ethical

Background checks on ALL gun buyers, but a check on MorroccoBomber...? TO THE HIGH TOWER, WITH HER...!

And here’s something else:

Most dictators have prominent enemies; parties, poets, artists, film-makers, rebel commanders....

The really CREEPY dictators have enemies who are plumbers, housewives....GayMuzzie has no style at all.


14 posted on 01/28/2013 12:06:55 PM PST by gaijin
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To: ethical

Arrogant Communist Tyrant Hussein Obama Second Reich Information File.


15 posted on 01/28/2013 12:09:42 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Commune Obama"care" violates Anti-Trust Laws, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: butterdezillion; LucyT

A persistent PING for TRUTH!


16 posted on 01/28/2013 12:12:06 PM PST by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Commune Obama"care" violates Anti-Trust Laws, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

This one?

17 posted on 01/28/2013 12:12:59 PM PST by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. Never confuse logic and liberals.)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
She has set up a defense fund to pay this fine.
18 posted on 01/28/2013 12:16:15 PM PST by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: arthurus

C A Jones is a Homebuilder if you would take the time to do a google search. Not sure why that is relevant... ;)


19 posted on 01/28/2013 12:16:32 PM PST by D Rider
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To: Political Junkie Too; ethical
"Wouldn't this be protected by the 1st amendment right to petition the government for a redress of grievances?"

No it wouldn't. Since the 1st Amendment was itself amended (by popular vote & lack of media/congressional/judicial attention) to exclude any questioning of Barry Seotoro.

20 posted on 01/28/2013 12:17:21 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: ethical

She’s getting smacked around by the “standing” issue. She has no inherent right to demand a legal investigation of anyone, and unless she can show specific harm done to her personally and directly, she has no standing to file the suit.


21 posted on 01/28/2013 12:21:55 PM PST by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: moose07

Yup. That’s EXACTLY it. Someone forwarded it to my FB account on Saturday. Probably is false because in 1981 Barry was at Occidental.


22 posted on 01/28/2013 12:23:04 PM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: moose07
Can anyone lay their hands on a valid Columbia student ID? Any Columbia alumni Freepers out there? That would go a long way toward answering real/faked...

Regards,
GtG

23 posted on 01/28/2013 12:24:55 PM PST by Gandalf_The_Gray (I live in my own little world, I like it 'cuz they know me here.)
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To: kevkrom
Incorrect. The Judge acknowledged she had standing in his decision, albeit relunctantly.
24 posted on 01/28/2013 12:25:13 PM PST by ethical
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To: ethical

Doesn’t she now have “STANDING” to appeal this to the higher courts ? If a fedreal judge were to rule in her favor then it could perhaps force the bamster to put up the docs finally .


25 posted on 01/28/2013 12:25:13 PM PST by Lionheartusa1 (-: Socialism & Communism are the equal distribution of misery :-)
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To: Lionheartusa1
Looking in to that. Here is the Judge's ruling on standing, referring to the other over 100? cases that have been filed seeking Obama’s valid ID “Most were dismissed on standing grounds; a question not directly at issue in this case because plaintiff purports to bring this case under RCW 29A.68.011, subparts 1 and 3, which confers standing on any elector.”

“purports” shows the reluctance on his part. Plaintiff did without question file the suit using the RCW in question. Very few cases have acknowledged the plaintiff as having standing.

26 posted on 01/28/2013 12:32:36 PM PST by ethical
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To: arthurus
Cajones means nothing in Spanish or in English.

It means drawers (like in a desk or dresser) in at least one Spanish speaking country.

It's missing the accent mark though.

27 posted on 01/28/2013 12:32:51 PM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Promotional Fee Paid for by "Ouchies" The Sharp, Prickly Toy You Bathe With!)
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To: kidd
Bar codes were still rather rare in 1981.

And yet my first DL issued by the state of Texas in 1980 had one, as well as my Universtiy of Houston student ID card issued in the fall of 1982. And there were readers all over campus for entry into labs, use of the library, and all the admissions and administrative offices. IIRC, even the praking decals had that barcode on them. Heck, I even remember calling it our student surveilence card when they started using it to take attendance in the fall of 1983.

Maybe we should ask Wayne Allen Root if he had one with a barcode at CUNYC.

28 posted on 01/28/2013 12:35:48 PM PST by PeaceBeWithYou (De Oppresso Liber! (50 million and counting in Afghanistan and Iraq))
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To: moose07
This one?

A few questions/observations about that picture:
1. Obama's hair looks shorter in that picture than in any other pictures I've seen of him in college. Looks older, too. As though it is a post-college photo inserted into someone else's ID.
2. Did Columbia use this sort of ID in 1981? With a bar code?
3. Does/did Columbia note which students were "Foreign Students" on their university-issued IDs? I've never heard of any university doing so. Visiting students, yes, but not foreign students.

29 posted on 01/28/2013 12:36:38 PM PST by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: ethical; kevkrom
"The Judge acknowledged she had standing in his decision, albeit relunctantly."

You are correct ethical:

"Most were dismissed on standing grounds; a question not directly at issue in this case because plaintiff purports to bring this case under RCW 29A.68.011, subparts 1 and 3, which confers standing on any elector."

http://www.co.thurston.wa.us/superior/court%20opinions/Jordan%20v%20Reed%20Opinion.pdf

Reading the rest of the courts "opinion" and decision is pretty stunning.

30 posted on 01/28/2013 12:40:40 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: ethical

That doesn’t say she had standing, that said that the issue of standing was irrelevant — I’d have to see more full context to understand exactly why the case was dismissed. It’s patently ludicrous to assert the the judge declared she had standing and then fined her for filing a frivolous suit, though.


31 posted on 01/28/2013 12:42:05 PM PST by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: Gandalf_The_Gray; Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

I think fake.

Source

32 posted on 01/28/2013 12:42:21 PM PST by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. Never confuse logic and liberals.)
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More from the court:
She offers as evidence the musings of the infamous Arizona sheriff Joe Arpiao, supported by the report by a part-time computer programmer last employed in May 2007, who examined a copy of the pdf image of President Obama’s birth certificate and concluded that the original was forged. She offers the affidavit of a private investigator who opines that President Obama is fraudulently using the social security number of another person who was born in 18904 and was issued the social security number in 1977. The investigator is not able to identify the person and does not offer any insight as to why this hypothetical person waited until he or she was 87 years old before applying for and receiving a social security number. The rest of plaintiff’s evidence is the standard fare of the blogosphere that has been floating around since 2008.

It's clear, the lefties have successfully stigmatized the issue...and unfortunately too many on the right have sided with them.

33 posted on 01/28/2013 12:45:14 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

How about providing us with a copy of what you received?


34 posted on 01/28/2013 12:46:51 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Union Label -- then buy something else)
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The judge said:

I began this explanation of my decision with some history of the birther movement, and I conclude with some more history.

No predisposed belief there...naw, none. So much for justice being blind.

35 posted on 01/28/2013 12:47:45 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Please refer to post #32
It does appear to be fake .


36 posted on 01/28/2013 12:50:51 PM PST by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. Never confuse logic and liberals.)
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To: arthurus
Cojones. Cajones means nothing in Spanish or in English.

Yes it does.
It means several things, including (in context) "large wooden box," "large cardboard box," occasionally a "large travel chest," and in some latin countries, "drawers," as in a chest of.

37 posted on 01/28/2013 12:51:03 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Union Label -- then buy something else)
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To: ethical
Where do you read that? He never touches standing because he slaps her case down on five different matters: failing to include Obama (as an "indispensable person" to the case), lack of jurisdiction (it's congress's job), failure to comprehend the applicable law (the plaintiff cites as controlling a law specifically excluding the president from it's operation), the unreasonableness of complaining that the Washington secretary of state provisionally certified Obama as the Democratic presidential candidate before their convention (to get the ballots printed in a timely manner), since that outcome was never in doubt, and that the state law treating political party candidates differently than independent write-ins is not, despite plaintiff's claim, a violation of the state constitution.

Basically, the state's lawyers didn't even need to go to the matter of standing.

link to decisison

The fine, by the way, wasn't for using e-verify (although that may have been an illegal use), but for filing a frivolous appeal, which the court rejected, awarding costs to the state. The $13,000 is basically for two lawyers billing a total of 52 hours.

38 posted on 01/28/2013 12:54:07 PM PST by Bubba Ho-Tep ("More weight!"--Giles Corey)
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To: publius911

No need to. There is already one posted here. It’s the same one that was sent to my FB account.


39 posted on 01/28/2013 12:54:38 PM PST by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: kevkrom; ethical
"That doesn’t say she had standing, that said that the issue of standing was irrelevant — I’d have to see more full context to understand exactly why the case was dismissed. It’s patently ludicrous to assert the the judge declared she had standing and then fined her for filing a frivolous suit, though."

I've shown you up-thread, that the judge acknowledge the plaintiff had standing. Her complaint was dismissed for lack of jurisdiction:

2. I conclude that this court lacks subject matter jurisdiction. The primacy of congress to resolve issues of a candidate’s qualifications to serve as president is established in the U.S. Constitution

She was fined, by reading the tone of the decision, because the judge clearly doesn't like "birthers" even though the esteemed judge doesn't define what a "birther" is:

The birther movement has been a subplot on the fringe of the political spectrum in the U.S. for about five years.

...

I began this explanation of my decision with some history of the birther movement, and I conclude with some more history.


40 posted on 01/28/2013 12:55:48 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: rxsid
No it wouldn't. Since the 1st Amendment was itself amended (by popular vote & lack of media/congressional/judicial attention) to exclude any questioning of Barry Seotoro.

Let's not get silly here.

No part of the Bill of Rights (which themselves are Amendments) or any part of the original ratified Constitution can be amended by Executive Order.

41 posted on 01/28/2013 12:56:20 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Union Label -- then buy something else)
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To: rxsid

Thanks for the link to that decision. I would like this prick of a judge to tell me how the Constitution gives the responsibility for Congress to determine eligibility of a President elect in the instance where there are no legally-determined birth facts and HI state law says that the birth record that’s been presented must have its probative (legal evidentiary) value determined when it is presented as evidence to a JUDICIAL OR ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICIAL OR BODY. Congress is legislative; there is no way it can lawfully determine the probative value of Obama’s non-valid Hawaii birth certificate. How, then, could Congress resolve this eligibility issue, since he specifically claims that the Constitution does not allow the courts to deal with Presidential eligibility.

(And how the HECK does he get away with blowing off the 20th Amendment, which says that a President elect (who can’t even be a President elect until Congress is all done with what the Constitution allows them to do with Presidential elections) can still fail to qualify before Jan. 20th? Who has the power to act on Presidential qualification once Congress has done their part - if not the courts? Sheesh. This guy is a MORON!)

Furthermore, the Congressional Research Service rightly noted in its advisory opinions to members of Congress that Presidential elections are run by the STATES according to the Constitution. That is the reason that Congress has ducked out of doing anything on this issue for the past 4 years. This judge contradicts the CRS, so maybe he should give his reasons as to why the CRS is just a bunch of internet “flakes”.

Furthermore, this judge should be sued for libel, presuming to say that Jordan filed this lawsuit just to add to the internet “noise”.


42 posted on 01/28/2013 1:03:31 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: kevkrom
unless she can show specific harm done to her personally and directly, she has no standing to file the suit.

Excuse me?
Abuse of power under color of authority is the short version.
Fraud.
Obamacare.
A neverending list of abuses, usurpations and fraudulent taxes and illegal laws(not one cent more in taxes.)

The fact that Congress and state governments fail to challenge something does not make it Constitutional.
Legal and Constitutional are not interchangeable.

Every working, non governmental working American has standing.

I fail to find, in that article, the specific reason for the fine. When a legal matter is brought before a court, and it lacks standing, it is merely rejected. If fines were legal, no legal procedures would ever proceed, given large enough fines.

Justice has a blindfold and scales, but no pockets.

43 posted on 01/28/2013 1:05:05 PM PST by publius911 (Look for the Union Label -- then buy something else)
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To: arthurus; MichaelCorleone
Cojones. Cajones means nothing in Spanish or in English.

Uh, Michael Corleone is Eyetalian!

44 posted on 01/28/2013 1:07:35 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: moose07

I would say fake (even though I believe it’s accurate). The picture is too nice for a quick-shot ID card.

I also believe that things like this are being released by the Administration itself, so that they can be discredited later on.


45 posted on 01/28/2013 1:09:32 PM PST by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked..." - BHO)
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To: publius911
You mean, you didn't see my implied sarcasm tag there?

Geez, talk about silly.

46 posted on 01/28/2013 1:09:48 PM PST by rxsid (HOW CAN A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN'S STATUS BE "GOVERNED" BY GREAT BRITAIN? - Leo Donofrio (2009))
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To: arthurus

Actually, Cajones does mean something in Spanish. Un cajon is a wooden box, often used as a percussion instrument.


47 posted on 01/28/2013 1:10:30 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: moose07; Gandalf_The_Gray
Both the bar codes read the same number W698002721

It looks to be as original as obiOne's layered birth certificate.

48 posted on 01/28/2013 1:14:13 PM PST by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: kidd

I went to a much smaller school than Columbia. We had the digital ID with Bar Code by 1981. Not sure when it started.


49 posted on 01/28/2013 1:14:49 PM PST by DrDude (Governor of the 57th State)
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To: publius911

And also a percussion instrument used in flamenco and in Afro Caribbean music.


50 posted on 01/28/2013 1:17:05 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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