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To: Smokeyblue; butterdezillion; edge919; rxsid; LucyT; Red Steel; null and void

The pattern of evasion by Onaka (substituting “matches” v. “identical”) is, IMO consistent with what Zullo and Arpaio have charged is a conspiracy in HI (DOH and Governors) to conceal the fact that prior to April 2011 that was no paper “original” Certificate of Live Birth in HI, as Abercrombie had said in January 2011.

I am suspecting that when no LFBC was found and the pressure from Corsi and Trump was mounting the conspirators allowed POTUS Obama to “find” a “copy” of his “original 1961 LFBC” most likely forged as a pdf in Chicago.

This 2011 forged pdf was then transported to HI DOH and placed in the vital records archive with a sworn statement from Obama that this was a “true and correct copy” of the BC that Ayers referred as being found with his immunization records to when he wrote Dreams for Barry.

Doesn’t HI law allow subsequent provision of “proof” of an HI birth if it is sworn to?

There could even be a secret “nunc pro tunc” (now for then) executive order signed by Governor Abercrombie directing that the 2011 pdf from Chicago be deemed an “original” that had been lost. The fake pdf would gain legal treatment as an original in the same way that a modified adoption certificate would be.

Given this hypothetical, Onaka could truthfully say that an original vital record is in the archive...originally created in 2011 in Chicago and deemed to be legally a 1961 document nunc pro tunc in April 2011.

Remember that Corsi’s PI in HI claimed that he had a mole in HI DOH who said that up until April 2011 there was no LFBC for Barry, but then suddenly one appeared in the archive. Then Barry’s personal lawyer flies out from DC to witness this magically appearing BC getting copied and certified (with a deniable Onaka signature stamp).

The Federal Rules of Evidence allow for cross-examination of the custodian of records, Onaka, as a challenge to prima facie acceptance if there is evidence that the record is not genuine, IIRC (IANAL). But any such cross-examination an only occur in a court and Barry has NEVER “produced” his HI LFBC in any court obviously to evade any testimony on the record as to the provenance of the WH pdf LFBC or the alleged “original” LFBC in possession of HI DOH or any comparison of the two.

State secretaries of state can only request certification from a co-equal state, they are not entitled to cross-examine of challenge the prima facie veracity of documents that another state certifies. Each is entitled to full faith and credit acceptance from other states, unlike federal courts. This convenient fact is, of course, known to Barry and his Chicago, HI and DNC co-conspirators.

Again, all of the above would be consistent with Zullo and Arpaio’s claim that HI officials are actively conspiring to defeat examination of the HI vital record in a court of law.


198 posted on 01/31/2013 2:37:41 PM PST by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp

The record they have can’t be legally valid - whether by executive decree or anything else - because Onaka would not verify any birth facts. For instance, any BC they created for Obama would have had “male” for the gender, and yet Onaka would not even verify that. So there is no legally-valid BC for Obama which claims “male”.

The BC# problems are the key to understanding this, I think. There are 4 August 1961 BC#’s that don’t work with EITHER numbering method set forth by HDOh spokespersons. Either they numbered BC’s totally randomly, or the HDOH has been switching BC#’s around. The only legal reason allowable for a BC# different than the one that was originally on a BC is in the case of a new, totally fabricated BC being created at the request of law enforcement.

I think the pressure was actually from the combination of Arizona and the mid-term landslide which gave R’s a veto-proof majority in both chambers of Arizona’s legislature. Judy Burges had promised to propose an eligibility bill again in that setting, and there was a real chance that a veto by Jan Brewer would be overridden. Abercrombie was alarmed by that and in late December of 2010 he started making noise to the New York Times and LA Times that he was going to find a way to make Obama’s BC public. At the same time they began the push to present Tea Partiers as violent.

At the beginning of January 2011 Judge John Roll was assassinated in Arizona, which served a double purpose: it allowed Obama to appoint a judge who would later hear Holder’s challenge to Burges’ law if it was passed, and it gave a reason to associate “birthers” with violence, which was a prerequisite for Holder requesting a new BC for Obama’s “safety”. Everything was sailing along smoothly as intended.

But they hit a snag. Abercrombie’s appointed HDOH Director, Neal Palafox, wouldn’t commit document fraud by creating a valid fabricated BC for Obama when the law only allowed that for somebody born in Hawaii. Obama had no legally-valid HI BC and so it could not be legally presumed that he qualified to have a fabricated BC made at the request of law enforcement. They had the BC ready; I believe it was based on the same document that was inserted into the passport file in March of 2008. But the HDOH Director wouldn’t allow the deed to be done.

Abercrombie was asked by a Star-Advertiser columnist about how the investigation was going and he blustered out that there was something “actually written down in the archives”. That made it onto Drudge and Abercrombie’s friend Mike Evans called to ask him about it. Abercrombie told him he couldn’t find a BC for Obama in HI - that he had gone to the hospitals with a search warrant and there was nothing. Evans was innocent enough to think the truth is OK to say and reported about the conversation on multiple radio shows. Again, this was reported on Drudge, and people started looking more seriously at the issue. That is what eventually brought out Trump and all the pressure with that.

They became desperate to get the deed done. So they forced Palafox to resign about a week after the Evans reports. Palafox again refused to cooperate: when asked why he resigned he said he didn’t know. As a result, Abercrombie and his AG eventually had to admit that they had forced Palafox to resign and then lied about it, but wouldn’t say why. They made mob-like insinuations that it had something to do with a Medicare billing investigation, but there wasn’t any investigation. It was just a cover for the real reason.

Fuddy took over and immediately she started breaking laws. If there is one person who needs the Constitutional remedy for treason, I believe it is Loretta Fuddy. She put the fabricated BC for Obama in the file, forged a 2001 memo claiming a policy that never existed which would keep anybody from seeing original records - thereby enabling BC#’s to be changed by simple typing in a computer record rather than by forging the paper and microfilm records. Much like they changed the 1960-64 birth index by simple typing on a computer, to get Obama’s name as well as the Asing boys’ names in the birth index.

With the BC#’s switched around so that Obama’s BC had Stig Waidelich’s # and Waidelich had the BC# for a dead infant, they arranged with CNN to have Stig’s BC appear in a video stunt to be aired before Obama’s fabricated BC was to be made public. They knew the BC#’s were a problem (Chiyome Fukino had claimed that Obama’s BC was “properly numbered” to Michael Issikov shortly before so we know the BC# discrepancies were on their minds) and wanted to bombard the “birthers” with a 1-2 punch right before Corsi’s book came out and even while Trump was making the rounds. Obama was scheduled to be on Oprah’s Wednesday show and releasing the BC that same morning would allow him to gloat over the lie before the truth had a chance to get its shoes tied - which is all the ignorant masses would ever take the time to see.

They ran into a problem though. Onaka resisted. He let Fuddy see him copy the fabricated BC and put the certifying marks on it but she didn’t know that the TXE stamp was used. And afterwards he added the smiley face to the signature and LATE and ALTERED stamps. When Corley opened up the envelope and saw what she had they entered panic mode. They had to do the layers to get rid of the LATE and ALTERED stamps and had to paste in the certifying elements from what the HDOH had sent. In the process they failed to notice the TXE and smiley face, and they forgot to flatten the file.

Later on the same thing happened with other forgeries that Fuddy ordered the Vital Records Office to make, and they also resisted. They still had to try to deal with the BC# discrepancies, and they tried to make it appear as if the BC’s were alphabetized - ran a disinformation campaign to present that theory as plausible.

Fuddy required a falsified BC for Johanna Ah Nee to be made, posing as a 1995 certified copy. And it fooled Corsi because it had a real seal on it. But somebody put in overlapping digits in the BC#, and they also put in a bad imitation of Onaka’s signature, based on the Kemo BC’s signature from the same time period.

They also falsified the death certificate for Virginia Sunahara, giving a BC# that didn’t work for either of the numbering methods OR the alphabetization methods. They were running out of dead infants to use BC#’s from. And the HDOH worker deliberately put in blatant signs of forgery. They put in T. H. for “Territory of Hawaii” on that State of Hawaii death certificate, they used a different font for “FILE NO” and misaligned those words with the T. H. So there were 3 blatant signs of forgery on the same line of print as the handwritten falsified BC# that fits no numbering method.

And in sweet poetic justice, the Arizonans who had been used as an excuse to create the fabricated BC for Obama applied enough pressure that Arpaio appointed Zullo to investigate Obama’s birth certificate. When the media refused to report on the posse’s findings, the Tea Party pressured SOS Ken Bennett to get a verification. The pressure that those folks put on Bennett was strong enough that Bennett was willing to risk media ridicule just to get these people off his back. He requested the verification. And now we have 2 legal documents confirming that the White House image is a forgery and one legal document which confirms that Obama’s HI BC is legally non-valid.

That’s what I believe happened. And the BC# discrepancies in those 4 BC’s put out by the HDOH itself are the key that unlocks the whole mystery.


207 posted on 01/31/2013 7:08:53 PM PST by butterdezillion
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